Do guys really care about a girls sexual history? - Page 6

Trilby · 10-01-2006, 04:54 PM

Well, it's impossible for me to try to refute the empirical and, no doubt, immaculate research methods of the Cosmo Team that you identify as your source. I myself once relied upon the Wisdom of Cosmopolitan (I was 15) and I understand your confusion as they WILL set the exploits of their editorial board up as regular Joe-and-Josephine examples.

As far as your claim that 'men have been buying sex for thousands of years for nothing'-- I SO beg to differ! Men buy sex for a very sound [i]something[i] indeed! That something is called orgasm! It's worth the price! You should try it some time! I also see Plenty of male prostitues! Just because it's the men who are buying doesn't negate the value of the experience or the trade.

As far as the theory that 'too many sex partners for a women means she can't be emotionally or spiritually attached to ONE GOOD PERSON!' goes--try plying that to the millions of men who have and will love many, many women in their lives---men of accademe, of religion, of public service, of Greater Good. Martin Luther King, Jr. was a known philanderer---would you swat down all his works because he was an adulterer?

People are flawed. Women are flawed. All women--even your Virgin Mary.

Trilby · 10-01-2006, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bmwmcaw

In many of theses cultures this message is taught in females dominated cultures by the female matriarchs. Ask yourself girls if you don’t feel you could take back that sexual history. Don’t your girls sell your chastity when you meet a guy you really like and want to stick around? Isn’t hypocrisy to claim your past or sexual experience means nothing and yet is the 1st thing you try to conceal.

Rationalization is just another word for denial.

This is pure misogyny.

And to answer your juvenile question--I never try to conceal my sexual history.

Fess up--you're fifteen.

Clodfobble · 10-01-2006, 06:01 PM

Paging Troll-y McTrolls-a-lot... your mom says to get off the computer, it's time for dinner, and did you look for a job today you lazy good-fer-nothing?

9th Engineer · 10-01-2006, 07:32 PM

You sound like you have some growing up to do yourself Clodfobble.

Your assertion of misogyny is pretty loose Brianna, although I don't think what bmw is saying only applies to women it's not hate in the sense you're projecting it into. I could validly accuse you of misandry on the same principles you're using. Stick to addressing what you disagree with and leave the smear attacks and name-branding at the door.

I don't agree with what he's saying within his given context and limitations, but you're giving us a very telling look at of you with your style of rebuttal. Only took one post to go from debate to personal smear and credibility attacks.

footfootfoot · 10-01-2006, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sundae Girl

Sex is a choice regardless of gender.
People get horny regardless of gender.
Some people, especially when they are younger, choose to have sex for pleasure regardless of gender.
Some people don't meet their "ideal" for many years, but do not choose to remain celibate, regardless of gender.
Some people get hurt emotionally by someone who don't equate sexual intimacy with emotional intimacy regardless of gender.
Some people generalise this experience to include everyone.
Some don't.
Regardless of gender.

Well that's painting with a rather broad brush.

footfootfoot · 10-01-2006, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 9th Engineer

You sound like you have some growing up to do yourself Clodfobble.

SNAP! C'fob schooled by an engineer! (as if)

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Originally Posted by 9th Engineer

Your assertion of misogyny is pretty loose Brianna, although I don't think what bmw is saying only applies to women it's not hate in the sense you're projecting it into. I could validly accuse you of misandry on the same principles you're using. Stick to addressing what you disagree with and leave the smear attacks and name-branding at the door.

How dare you refer to Brianna as loose? Young man, I throw down my gauntlet. Since xobruce is offline right now, I'll defend her honor. She offered her honor. I'll honor her offer, and all night long it shall be honor and offer.

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Originally Posted by 9th Engineer

I don't agree with what he's saying within his given context and limitations, but you're giving us a very telling look at of you with your style of rebuttal. Only took one post to go from debate to personal smear and credibility attacks.

I actually agreed with everything he said. Then I read a few of the responses and agreed with everything they said. Then I read "but you're giving us a very telling look at of you" and it all went to hell right there.

Now I have a headache and I wish I was a hot 21 year old slutty virgin so Icould get laid. Or something. Maybe I'll watch Truffaut's 400 blows. Netfilx just sent it to me.

"peace outside"

Clodfobble · 10-01-2006, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by footfootfoot

"peace outside"

WHOA. Please tell me you are quoting the Chinese mock rapper I think you are. That just made my evening, right there.

footfootfoot · 10-01-2006, 08:23 PM

Tai Mai Shu!

My favorite cmep2 hit.

DucksNuts · 10-01-2006, 09:40 PM

If all thats true....I'm so screwed!!

A conversation at the local pub on Saturday nite (there were only 3 girls in the pub, my bestest and myself being 2 of them)....I walked away wondering why its soooo hard for guys to believe that girls sometimes just want to get laid, they arent always looking for the one, to fall in love etc etc and why is it sooo bad??

I just dont get why having sex with whomever and whenever one wants is a bad thing? ....so long as its done safely and neither party are disillusioned with whats exactly happened.

Anyone who knows me for more than 15 minutes knows I'm a sexual being, I dont bother with the whole *pure n innocent* charade as it just doesnt sit.

You either fall for me the way I am...or buh-bye!! Except for that rather strange experience I mentioned last weekend - I've never had any problems, have been in love, have had my heart broken, havent had commitment problems and havent been labelled a slut

I just think this whole thing takes on a different perspective as you get older, there's less mucking around and game playing.

Undertoad · 10-01-2006, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by footfootfoot

Now I have a headache and I wish I was a hot 21 year old slutty virgin so Icould get laid. Or something. Maybe I'll watch Truffaut's 400 blows. Netfilx just sent it to me.

Dude, that's not a porn film.

footfootfoot · 10-01-2006, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

Dude, that's not a porn film.

...If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is...

lumberjim · 10-01-2006, 11:14 PM

i'm learning more from the reactions to his post than his post. I've heard the multiply by 3, divide by 3 saw in regards to female/male stated sexual history. nothing new there. the only thing really new in his initial post was the bank analogy.....which i found amusing. 9th, you're missing clodfobble's point. she's calling him a troll because his very first post is a resentful poke at womankind. seems like he may have been having some hard luck with the ladies, if you ask me. perhaps you percieved that already and identify with him? Brianna's posts are the ones that lift MY eyebrows.

Bri, the part that bothered you the most was plainly the bit about a supposed inverse relationship between the number of sexual partners and the ability to feel true love? It's horseshit, I agree, but why does it bother you so? You're an introspective person. Is this familiar ground to you? have you pondered the sometimes empty feelings that you've shared here, and wondered if your past is inhibiting your ability to feel? If anything the opposite would be true, i think. recognition of the difference(between a sexual and a spiritual relationship) should be easier for the contrast. the naive are the ones that mistake sex for love. romance for love. excitement and discovery for love.

new guy seems smart and thoughtful.....if grammatically challenged.....but, i agree with cloddy....i hear the simplicity and certainty of idealistic youth. i guess that's the result of book larnin about people instead of applied learning.

at any rate....i just wanted to say that my sex credit score is over 700. gimme some sugar, baby.

Trilby · 10-02-2006, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim

have you pondered the sometimes empty feelings that you've shared here, and wondered if your past is inhibiting your ability to feel?

I don't think that's it. I object to the assertion that women who have (or had) lots of partners are emotionally and spiritually damaged to the extent that they won't be able to bond with one man. Sticks in my craw. And new guy plainly stated that this was a female problem, not a human problem, since females have the 'goodies'--I find that offensive.

As for 9th telling me that I'm name calling when I call a post misogynistic in nature--that's not name calling. That's calling it as I see it. Calling 9th a Zombie Engineer would be name calling.

Sundae · 10-02-2006, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by footfootfoot

Well that's painting with a rather broad brush.

Trilby · 10-02-2006, 05:49 AM

In the interest of full disclosure--my own 15 year old is driving me batty. Batty, I tell you!

10-01-2006, 04:54 PM	#76
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	Well, it's impossible for me to try to refute the empirical and, no doubt, immaculate research methods of the Cosmo Team that you identify as your source. I myself once relied upon the Wisdom of Cosmopolitan (I was 15) and I understand your confusion as they WILL set the exploits of their editorial board up as regular Joe-and-Josephine examples. As far as your claim that 'men have been buying sex for thousands of years for nothing'-- I SO beg to differ! Men buy sex for a very sound [i]something[i] indeed! That something is called orgasm! It's worth the price! You should try it some time! I also see Plenty of male prostitues! Just because it's the men who are buying doesn't negate the value of the experience or the trade. As far as the theory that 'too many sex partners for a women means she can't be emotionally or spiritually attached to ONE GOOD PERSON!' goes--try plying that to the millions of men who have and will love many, many women in their lives---men of accademe, of religion, of public service, of Greater Good. Martin Luther King, Jr. was a known philanderer---would you swat down all his works because he was an adulterer? People are flawed. Women are flawed. All women--even your Virgin Mary. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

10-01-2006, 07:32 PM	#79
9th Engineer Bioengineer and aspiring lawer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 872	You sound like you have some growing up to do yourself Clodfobble. Your assertion of misogyny is pretty loose Brianna, although I don't think what bmw is saying only applies to women it's not hate in the sense you're projecting it into. I could validly accuse you of misandry on the same principles you're using. Stick to addressing what you disagree with and leave the smear attacks and name-branding at the door. I don't agree with what he's saying within his given context and limitations, but you're giving us a very telling look at of you with your style of rebuttal. Only took one post to go from debate to personal smear and credibility attacks. __________________ The most valuable renewable resource is stupidity.

10-01-2006, 08:23 PM	#83
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	Tai Mai Shu! My favorite cmep2 hit. __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

10-01-2006, 11:14 PM	#87
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	i'm learning more from the reactions to his post than his post. I've heard the multiply by 3, divide by 3 saw in regards to female/male stated sexual history. nothing new there. the only thing really new in his initial post was the bank analogy.....which i found amusing. 9th, you're missing clodfobble's point. she's calling him a troll because his very first post is a resentful poke at womankind. seems like he may have been having some hard luck with the ladies, if you ask me. perhaps you percieved that already and identify with him? Brianna's posts are the ones that lift MY eyebrows. Bri, the part that bothered you the most was plainly the bit about a supposed inverse relationship between the number of sexual partners and the ability to feel true love? It's horseshit, I agree, but why does it bother you so? You're an introspective person. Is this familiar ground to you? have you pondered the sometimes empty feelings that you've shared here, and wondered if your past is inhibiting your ability to feel? If anything the opposite would be true, i think. recognition of the difference(between a sexual and a spiritual relationship) should be easier for the contrast. the naive are the ones that mistake sex for love. romance for love. excitement and discovery for love. new guy seems smart and thoughtful.....if grammatically challenged.....but, i agree with cloddy....i hear the simplicity and certainty of idealistic youth. i guess that's the result of book larnin about people instead of applied learning. at any rate....i just wanted to say that my sex credit score is over 700. gimme some sugar, baby. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

10-02-2006, 05:49 AM	#90
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	In the interest of full disclosure--my own 15 year old is driving me batty. Batty, I tell you! __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

10-01-2006, 06:01 PM	#78
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	Paging Troll-y McTrolls-a-lot... your mom says to get off the computer, it's time for dinner, and did you look for a job today you lazy good-fer-nothing?

10-01-2006, 09:40 PM	#84
DucksNuts Bitchy Little Brat Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 5,067	If all thats true....I'm so screwed!! A conversation at the local pub on Saturday nite (there were only 3 girls in the pub, my bestest and myself being 2 of them)....I walked away wondering why its soooo hard for guys to believe that girls sometimes just want to get laid, they arent always looking for the one, to fall in love etc etc and why is it sooo bad?? I just dont get why having sex with whomever and whenever one wants is a bad thing? ....so long as its done safely and neither party are disillusioned with whats exactly happened. Anyone who knows me for more than 15 minutes knows I'm a sexual being, I dont bother with the whole pure n innocent charade as it just doesnt sit. You either fall for me the way I am...or buh-bye!! Except for that rather strange experience I mentioned last weekend - I've never had any problems, have been in love, have had my heart broken, havent had commitment problems and havent been labelled a slut I just think this whole thing takes on a different perspective as you get older, there's less mucking around and game playing.

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