Fucking Hell - Page 3

orthodoc · 03-09-2013, 03:17 PM

*hugs*
Needed that.

Undertoad · 03-09-2013, 03:36 PM

Big Sarge · 03-09-2013, 04:55 PM

Could anyone have prevented it? I doubt so. She made her decision based upon what she was feeling at that moment. She knew we all loved her & cared. Sometimes it is not enough. That being said, sometimes a few kind words do make the difference. I was very close one night and a simple comment Dana made changed my outcome.

All I can say is Trilby, I loved you. I hope you are in a happier place. I was blessed to have known you

Aliantha · 03-09-2013, 05:44 PM

I was in the car yesterday and had some peace and quiet to actually absorb Trils passing and I was surprised to feel angry at her. I was thinking about her life and how she beat cancer, and then just threw it away and I felt angry. I guess in a way I still do, but I do understand depression. Many others here do also. It can get it's hooks in and skew your whole view of the world and yourself.

Mostly I just feel sorry and sad that she let it get the better of her in the end.

RIP Claudette. We were not close, but I admired your courage through your challenges. I just wish you could have found a bit more.

Lola Bunny · 03-09-2013, 09:28 PM

The first emotion I felt after reading Sarge's email to inform me of Claudette's passing was shock. The second was guilt. I won't get into why so but it took me almost the whole day to let go of it. I still feel bad but the sadness from the last two weeks have worn me down. I'm tired. We should just accept sadness and let go of all other emotions.

classicman · 03-09-2013, 10:04 PM

Has someone determined that this was due to anything other than an accident or "natural causes"?

Pete Zicato · 03-09-2013, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Lola Bunny

I'm tired. We should just accept sadness and let go of all other emotions.

I must respectfully disagree.

I admit that there is much that is scary, sad, and downright evil in the world.

But there is also much that is good and kind and fun.

classicman · 03-09-2013, 10:48 PM

...and this place being all three.

xoxoxoBruce · 03-09-2013, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt

*hugs*

No.

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Originally Posted by DanaC

*hugs*

OK

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Originally Posted by orthodoc

*hugs*

Yes

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

Eh... if Jax says ok.

Big Sarge · 03-10-2013, 01:29 PM

From what I can discern, it was accidental

IamSam · 03-10-2013, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Sarge

From what I can discern, it was accidental

How do you know, Sarge? Just asking.

As I posted in the other Trilby/Brianna thread, all my alarm bells when off when she posted about drinking and taking tranquilizers and going to bed. VERY bad combo. I knew two other alcoholics who died that way - one of whom I felt terribly guilty about to this day. I went on a "12 Step" call to him with another alcoholic. We literally spent hours with that man, and he seemed OK when we finally left. He apparently over-dosed soon after our departure.

You can only do so much. If a person is determined to die - and poor Trilby must have been. She was very intelligent plus she was an RN for heaven's sake. She knew very well the dangers of drinking and taking tranquilizers at the same time.

No one here should feel guilty. Many if not most of us didn't know how to contact her IRL, and the Internet, even the Cellar has its limits. Trilby posted many times about her drinking, depression, etc. How could anyone know that her last posts were actually going to be her last?

The last pm I ever sent her was filled with concern, and I begged her to call another alcoholic - me (or anyone else) - and talk through what was going on with her. She never called and she never answered my pm.

Poor Trilby! I can understand her suffering at least somewhat. I hope she is in a better place. At least she is in peace at long last.

PS Why is this thread in "Nothingland"? No offense to Monster, but Trilby was SOMETHING! She will be remembered and missed probably for as long as there's a Cellar.

Crimson Ghost · 03-10-2013, 06:33 PM

Until and unless her sons decide to state what happened, speculating on what happened is, in my own opinion, improper.

I would be inclined, until further evidence proves otherwise, to consider "death by misadventure" - a death due to unintentional accident without any violation of law or criminal negligence.

As stated, my opinion, nothing more.

monster · 03-10-2013, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by IamSam

PS Why is this thread in "Nothingland"? No offense to Monster, but Trilby was SOMETHING! She will be remembered and missed probably for as long as there's a Cellar.

Because it was a selfish threadabout how I felt, not a thread of condolence and not necessarily something for her boys to read, so I put it where they probably wouldn't find it and titled it appropriately. In hindsight, one of my better moves.

footfootfoot · 03-10-2013, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crimson Ghost

Until and unless her sons decide to state what happened, speculating on what happened is, in my own opinion, improper.

I would be inclined, until further evidence proves otherwise, to consider "death by misadventure" - a death due to unintentional accident without any violation of law or criminal negligence.

As stated, my opinion, nothing more.

Agreed. It kind of irked me that many assumed she'd done it intentionally.

xoxoxoBruce · 03-10-2013, 08:27 PM

I wish she'd have told me she gave up the puppy, that would have freaked me.

03-09-2013, 03:17 PM	#31
orthodoc Not Suspicious, Merely Canadian Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 3,774	hugs Needed that. __________________ The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated. - Ghandi Last edited by orthodoc; 03-09-2013 at 03:32 PM.

03-09-2013, 04:55 PM	#33
Big Sarge Werepandas - lurking in your shadows Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: In the Deep South Posts: 3,408	Could anyone have prevented it? I doubt so. She made her decision based upon what she was feeling at that moment. She knew we all loved her & cared. Sometimes it is not enough. That being said, sometimes a few kind words do make the difference. I was very close one night and a simple comment Dana made changed my outcome. All I can say is Trilby, I loved you. I hope you are in a happier place. I was blessed to have known you __________________ Give a man a match, & he'll be warm for 20 seconds. But toss that man a white phosphorus grenade and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

03-09-2013, 05:44 PM	#34
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	I was in the car yesterday and had some peace and quiet to actually absorb Trils passing and I was surprised to feel angry at her. I was thinking about her life and how she beat cancer, and then just threw it away and I felt angry. I guess in a way I still do, but I do understand depression. Many others here do also. It can get it's hooks in and skew your whole view of the world and yourself. Mostly I just feel sorry and sad that she let it get the better of her in the end. RIP Claudette. We were not close, but I admired your courage through your challenges. I just wish you could have found a bit more. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

03-09-2013, 10:04 PM	#36
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Has someone determined that this was due to anything other than an accident or "natural causes"? __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

03-09-2013, 10:48 PM	#38
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	...and this place being all three. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

03-09-2013, 03:36 PM	#32
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423

03-09-2013, 09:28 PM	#35
Lola Bunny Junior Master Dwellar Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 2,728	The first emotion I felt after reading Sarge's email to inform me of Claudette's passing was shock. The second was guilt. I won't get into why so but it took me almost the whole day to let go of it. I still feel bad but the sadness from the last two weeks have worn me down. I'm tired. We should just accept sadness and let go of all other emotions.

03-10-2013, 01:29 PM	#40
Big Sarge Werepandas - lurking in your shadows Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: In the Deep South Posts: 3,408	From what I can discern, it was accidental __________________ Give a man a match, & he'll be warm for 20 seconds. But toss that man a white phosphorus grenade and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

03-10-2013, 06:33 PM	#42
Crimson Ghost Larger than life and twice as ugly. Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5,264	Until and unless her sons decide to state what happened, speculating on what happened is, in my own opinion, improper. I would be inclined, until further evidence proves otherwise, to consider "death by misadventure" - a death due to unintentional accident without any violation of law or criminal negligence. As stated, my opinion, nothing more. __________________ We must all go through a rite of passage. It must be physical, it must be painful, and it must leave a mark. I have no knowledge of the events which you are describing, and if I did have knowledge of them, I would be unable to discuss them with you now or at any future period. Don't waste your time always searching for those wasted years

03-10-2013, 08:27 PM	#45
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I wish she'd have told me she gave up the puppy, that would have freaked me. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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