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05-30-2013, 12:00 PM | #16 | |
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Why not trust him? DUH, he's a political lawyer.
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05-30-2013, 12:28 PM | #17 | |
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A reporter is NOT a co-conspirator, because he communicates with confidential (whistle blower) sources. At the time I started this thread, it appeared that it was illegal, and that Holder had committed perjury. I'm not a mind reader, and Holder certainly has not been forthcoming with the details in this matter. This is not a court of law. My opinion was that Holder vastly overstepped his authority in this case, and that he was lying to Congress, but I had not heard his recorded previous testimony, until yesterday. Despite their assertions to the contrary, Nixon was a crook, Clinton did have sex with Monica, Bush knew there probably was no weapon of mass destruction in Iraq, and Obama lied about Benghazi, through Susan Rice. You may call it something different, but a very misleading statement from a high public official, should be judged a lie, because of the trust and authority, we have given these people. I don't believe a jury would see it any differently, in a court of law. Yes, we need to raise a fuss about this. That's the only way to keep these politicians in line. We can't wait until all the facts have been ascertained, before we start. By the time that happens it's "yesterdays news. Nothing new here to see.", and the opportunity to resist or debate the action, is lost - right along with our rights. |
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05-30-2013, 12:34 PM | #18 |
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His listeners are his boss. He's now a nationally syndicated talk show host, and if I (and others), stop listening to him, he'll be out of a job.
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05-30-2013, 12:54 PM | #19 |
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He's another Beck, if he doesn't keep you pissed off you lose interest, and he loses money. So the job is not to inform, but to piss off, which means doing whatever it takes, even (read especially) if he has to bend/twist the truth, connect dots that don't exist, and make shit up.
IT'S SHOW BIZ!
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05-30-2013, 01:20 PM | #20 | |
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Did you deliberately skip that mental giant, Ronald Regan and Iran-Contra / Lying to Congress Pardoned before trial Caspar Weinberger, United States Secretary of Defense, Duane R. Clarridge (US Republican Party) Plead guilty / Agreed to cooperate / Pardoned by Bush Elliott Abrams Robert C. McFarlane, Alan D. Fiers Richard Secord Albert Hakim Found Guilty Richard R. Miller Oliver North John Poindexter Clair George Thomas G. Clines Carl R. Channel |
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06-01-2013, 04:43 PM | #21 | |
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Iran Contra was wrong, but we can look back from our vantage point after all these years, and see that the Communists were a real threat in several Central and South American countries. Their response was wrong, but their threat assessment was correct. There were things that should never have been done: like the CIA killing President Allende in Chile. WTH were they thinking?? What a contrast that is with today's congress and media. Reagan's law-breakers were investigated, brought up on charges, and convicted. Obama's law-breakers are unknown, (who approved Fast and Furious, who ordered the military responders to Benghazi to "stand down", who ordered the words "attack" removed and "disturbance" inserted into the CIA's report?, who ordered the conservative 501c 4 groups to be harassed by the IRS, FBI, OSHA, and other federal agencies, etc.) The Congress has not been able to check the power and misdeeds of the President, and the media is largely responsible for that. With elections every few years, not many politicians can afford to attack Obama, when all his cheer-leading media types will immediately cast him or her, in the worst possible light. BTW, the "half dozen or so" IRS agents that were being investigated for targeting conservative groups, has now been expanded to include records from 88 agents. They have been informed to secure all "related" communications from their computers. Who decides what is "related"? They do! Reagan may have been impacted by Alzheimers in his second term, but 30 years after his election, what is it that we need very badly? OH! It's a missile defense shield! And before that, he was easily the best communicator we ever had in the Oval Office. Last edited by Adak; 06-01-2013 at 04:55 PM. |
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sort of documentation or reference to support a statement of fact. I did not, and still do not, know if your statement above is true or not. Below is a link to a website report that explicitly contradicts your statement. So, I offer you a challenge... Provide an authoritative source that supports your statement that the CIA killed Allende, or acknowledge that your remark is false. ... nothing in between and no diversions on to something else. OK ? CIA.gov Home > Library > Reports > General Reports > Chile Central Intelligence Agency CIA Activities in Chile Sept 18, 2000 Quote:
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06-02-2013, 10:55 AM | #23 |
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Lamplighter, you've fallen for an old trick used by conspiracy wackos. They make wild unsupported claims, and while you spend all afternoon finding evidence to refute their bullshit, they steal your hubcaps.
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06-02-2013, 11:26 AM | #24 |
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In this case, it's OK.
Nixon was not one of my favorite presidents, so I'd be satisfied if Adak was actually correct this one time. |
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