Of all the beliefs you hold, the most dangerous... - Page 3

W.HI.P · 12-01-2010, 03:38 AM

Based on the fact that the core beliefs of the majority of people contradict each other, we can say, that the majority of people in the world, in fact believe something that is false.
Now, if the core beliefs of the majority of people in the world are false, then, the chances are, YOUR core beliefs are false.
So, regardless of what it is that YOU believe in, perhaps you should take a nice step back from that which is most likely blinding you.

Faith? no such thing....not amongst humans.
Faith consists of having no doubt....not even a speck of it.
If one claims to have faith, then they are to be referred to as a gnostic.
Gnostic Theists are what we call extremists.
People that have completely lost their sanity.
So, be cautious when claiming to have faith.

xoxoxoBruce · 12-01-2010, 04:06 AM

WHIP you're making the same mistake, faith does not mean religion. Religious faith is the third definition, so can't be assumed, and must be stated.

W.HI.P · 12-01-2010, 04:25 AM

my post begins on topic, with a discussion of core beliefs, regardless of what they are based on

The second part is in reference to a discussion being held on perceptions of faith in regards to (I assume) a christian view on the term faith.
In this case, it is based on the words and action of the fictional character "Jesus".
In this sense, the word "Faith" would be, without doubt, and therefore is non-existent amongst christians.
"If ye only faith, you could move a mountain"
A christian, claiming to have faith, is either insane or ignorant.

skysidhe · 12-01-2010, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by W.HI.P

The second part is in reference to a discussion being held on perceptions of faith in regards to (I assume) a christian view on the term faith.
In this case, it is based on the words and action of the fictional character "Jesus".
In this sense, the word "Faith" would be, without doubt, and therefore is non-existent amongst christians.
"If ye only faith, you could move a mountain"
A christian, claiming to have faith, is either insane or ignorant.

The discussion prior to your post wasn't about the Christian view of faith. It was based on a more philosophical view.

You have a set of beliefs. You believe Christian's have no true faith. You see the word faith and equate it to Christians'.

Believing something as a matter of principle,to me is, only believing one's own moral precepts, while at the same time denying another theirs.

The beliefs we hold, which are the most dangerous, are the ones we staunchly defend for our self, while at the same time denying another, their own.

classicman · 12-01-2010, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by monster

Why would you believe something you don't know to be true?

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Originally Posted by classicman

Its called faith.

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From Wiki: Faith is the confident belief or trust in a person, idea, or thing that is not based on proof.
Faith is also referred to as “confidence or trust in a person or thing”.
As in, evidences of someone’s abilities gave him the faith that they had the ability to do the same (or similar) again.
And therefore can be based on proofs or evidences, which can then be projected onto future events.

That clearer, Lamp?

Shawnee123 · 12-01-2010, 11:05 AM

No, not really.

I believe for every drop of rain that falls, a flower grows. That's because I have faith in rainwater and all its flower-growing abilities. Of course, I am much more pious and humble and worthy than you.

classicman · 12-01-2010, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123

No, not really.

Good thing l wasn't addressing you. But thats certainly never stopped you before. Now why don't you go crawl back under the rock you came out from.

sexobon · 12-01-2010, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

Of all the beliefs you hold, the most dangerous...
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...are the ones you *want* to believe in.

The Cellar: We want to believe, but that would be dangerous!

Shawnee123 · 12-01-2010, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman

Good thing l wasn't addressing you. But thats certainly never stopped you before. Now why don't you go crawl back under the rock you came out from.

I didn't come "out" of a rock, dumbass, I would have had to come out from "under" a rock. You were really close, but no Bob Seger.

Let me help you a lil bit, can I, if I'm gonna? "Why don't you go crawl back under that rock from which you came." That way you're not ending your sentence in a preposition, and it doesn't imply that I came out of a rock instead of out from under a rock.

FTFY
You're welcome.

classicman · 12-01-2010, 12:48 PM

wow - you've been back about 5 posts and your insanity is already tiring.
One doesn't really don't know what one didn't miss till its back.

Why don't you go over to nothingland and derail some pointless thread over there?

classicman · 12-01-2010, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by W.HI.P

The second part is in reference to a discussion being held on perceptions of faith in regards to (I assume) a christian view on the term faith.

Yeh, I think thats where you got off course. I was trying very carefully not to interject any religion into my posts. Sorry for the confusion.

Shawnee123 · 12-01-2010, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman

wow - you've been back about 5 posts and your insanity is already tiring.
One doesn't really don't know what one didn't miss till its back.

Why don't you go over to nothingland and derail some pointless thread over there?

wow - please hone your verbal combat skills. You're really horrible at this. Maybe UG will say something about me and you can hump his comment's leg until it falls off?

(This from the guy who waits for any chance to derail a thread if a post in it contains even an iota of insult to any of those you consider enemys. Yeah, that's right about tw! Yeah, that's right about monster. Yeah, that's right about Spexx.)

You so remind me of Steve and Eydie Gorme as played by Michael Myers and Victoria Jackson (to Phil Hartman's Frank Sinatra) on SNL.

sexobon · 12-01-2010, 01:26 PM

Looks like someone has found a convenient way to run up their post count to that elusive 20K milestone. Just think, my original join date was Apr 2006, that could have been me!

Shawnee123 · 12-01-2010, 01:30 PM

I wouldn't really call it convenient. In fact, it's a downright pain in the ass.

I will stop before that, and change my name. How about: Eenwahs? Lois Loan? George CantStandYa? Butterflies and Moonbeams?

Which do you like, sexo?

sexobon · 12-01-2010, 01:41 PM

How about a quasi-traditional name like "SecondWind."

12-01-2010, 03:38 AM	#31
W.HI.P Free Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 1,513	Based on the fact that the core beliefs of the majority of people contradict each other, we can say, that the majority of people in the world, in fact believe something that is false. Now, if the core beliefs of the majority of people in the world are false, then, the chances are, YOUR core beliefs are false. So, regardless of what it is that YOU believe in, perhaps you should take a nice step back from that which is most likely blinding you. Faith? no such thing....not amongst humans. Faith consists of having no doubt....not even a speck of it. If one claims to have faith, then they are to be referred to as a gnostic. Gnostic Theists are what we call extremists. People that have completely lost their sanity. So, be cautious when claiming to have faith. __________________ pls stfu k thx Last edited by W.HI.P; 12-01-2010 at 03:43 AM.

12-01-2010, 04:06 AM	#32
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	WHIP you're making the same mistake, faith does not mean religion. Religious faith is the third definition, so can't be assumed, and must be stated. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

12-01-2010, 04:25 AM	#33
W.HI.P Free Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 1,513	my post begins on topic, with a discussion of core beliefs, regardless of what they are based on The second part is in reference to a discussion being held on perceptions of faith in regards to (I assume) a christian view on the term faith. In this case, it is based on the words and action of the fictional character "Jesus". In this sense, the word "Faith" would be, without doubt, and therefore is non-existent amongst christians. "If ye only faith, you could move a mountain" A christian, claiming to have faith, is either insane or ignorant. __________________ pls stfu k thx

12-01-2010, 11:05 AM	#36
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	No, not really. I believe for every drop of rain that falls, a flower grows. That's because I have faith in rainwater and all its flower-growing abilities. Of course, I am much more pious and humble and worthy than you. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

12-01-2010, 12:48 PM	#40
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	wow - you've been back about 5 posts and your insanity is already tiring. One doesn't really don't know what one didn't miss till its back. Why don't you go over to nothingland and derail some pointless thread over there? __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

12-01-2010, 01:26 PM	#43
sexobon I love it when a plan comes together. Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,793	Looks like someone has found a convenient way to run up their post count to that elusive 20K milestone. Just think, my original join date was Apr 2006, that could have been me!

12-01-2010, 01:30 PM	#44
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	I wouldn't really call it convenient. In fact, it's a downright pain in the ass. I will stop before that, and change my name. How about: Eenwahs? Lois Loan? George CantStandYa? Butterflies and Moonbeams? Which do you like, sexo? __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

12-01-2010, 01:41 PM	#45
sexobon I love it when a plan comes together. Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,793	How about a quasi-traditional name like "SecondWind."

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