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03-08-2017, 10:26 PM | #1 | |
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I was reading a forum of High School and College Teachers about how students had changed over the years. This comment by a person who'd been teaching at a state college for about 10 years made an impression.
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03-08-2017, 11:24 PM | #2 |
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These parents protected their children from the consequences created by making mistakes and/or failing. They took away their most valuable learning tool.
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03-09-2017, 07:06 AM | #3 |
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I taught photography at a couple of colleges as an adjunct for a few years. The last class I taught was what made me decide to pack it in; the students had no idea how to think or grasp underlying concepts. They consistently asked to be told exactly what they had to do when taking a picture.
Before the final, one of the kids came up to me and said,"Just tell me what I need to answer so I can get an A." Not. Shitting. You.
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03-09-2017, 07:38 AM | #4 |
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So...
unlike all previous generations, all the raw information is available on YouTube and the Internets... which means you don't actually need to go to a school, if all you are seeking is knowledge... which means the $200000 for a degree is wildly overpriced, if they are just giving out information, and not something that will actually transform you as a person. The information is worth $0, and having the information in your head is now also worth $0 if it's available one click away for everybody... When will the bubble pop? They told us college was not about the information, but about teaching you how to think; that would surely be worth $200000. If that is not happening, we have a problem. |
03-09-2017, 07:38 AM | #5 |
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It's not easy letting your kid fail. And the line between helping them and doing it for them starts off kinda gray and then becomes stark black and white once you realize you've entered too far into the doing it for them territory.
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03-09-2017, 11:06 AM | #6 |
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Yeah, learning to think needs to start day one. By the time you get to college if you don't know how to think, you're pretty much fucked.
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03-09-2017, 11:58 AM | #7 |
I think this line's mostly filler.
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The continuing increase in measuring schools' performance via standardized tests probably has moved schools even more towards teaching lists of facts over teaching how to think than they already were.
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03-09-2017, 12:04 PM | #8 |
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I agree with that, plus the presumption every kid should achieve a college degree at minimum, or the school has failed little Johnny/Janey and their parents.
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03-09-2017, 02:48 PM | #9 |
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Yep. Everyone should not go to college.
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03-09-2017, 03:17 PM | #10 |
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What's the Matter With Kids Today?
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03-09-2017, 05:54 PM | #11 |
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To be precise Thompson, not everyone should go to college!
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03-10-2017, 06:47 AM | #12 | |
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It almost looks intentional.
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03-10-2017, 08:48 PM | #13 | |
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04-06-2017, 01:47 PM | #14 |
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If you think you go to School to get an education? You are missing the point. The fact is school systems are old and outdated. Kids should study what they want to study and we should encourage them.
We need specialized schools. Schools for Math (Where are the math lovers go), Schools for music production (Where everyone crazy about music gets a chance to study it from an early age), etc. Today if someone wants to study Math, they can go to sites like StudyPug or Math.com and get better answers in a simple way then some "boring" teacher. We need to cultivate and support the passion kids come into this world. The have it for a reason. Passionate kids nurtured = Experts! Passionate kids thrown into a cesspool known as high school, college and university produces average people who hate their lives. Just look in the mirror if you think I'm wrong. As far as getting a job goes, go spend a few hours on Youtube . . . see what these kids are doing. Absolutely F'all and they are making 5gs plus a month. Just by being themselves. Technology has changed the game completely. Support your kids dreams. Don't try to live yours, you had your chance. |
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