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   Undertoad  Wednesday Apr 5 12:47 PM

4/5/2006: Amusement ride in poverty



Pakistani children ride a ferris wheel over a heap of garbage in a slum area of Karachi, Pakistan, reads the official WaPo caption on this one.

What a strange statement on humanity - that in the midst of this living condition, it's worthwhile to spend a little effort to put together something to entertain the young ones for a few minutes.

Of course if that thing falls there'll be a lawsuit, and then... uh...



xoxoxoBruce  Wednesday Apr 5 01:35 PM

It looks like he's spinning it by hand. What a workout that would be. I wonder if he charges the kids?



wolf  Wednesday Apr 5 01:41 PM

I think they have something like that at the Pennsylvania Rennaissance Faire.



SteveDallas  Wednesday Apr 5 01:42 PM

Really? That's weird. How come they don't . . .


Oh, you mean the ride, not the trash heap. Never mind.



xant  Wednesday Apr 5 01:59 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Undertoad
Of course if that thing falls there'll be a lawsuit, and then... uh...
Dude, it's Pakistan. The only way there will be a lawsuit is if they sell that thing to a rich American amusement park ride collector, and the crane drops it on his neighbor's Porsche.


Trilby  Wednesday Apr 5 05:46 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Undertoad
Of course if that thing falls there'll be a lawsuit, and then... uh...
No lawsuit. They'd just get a group of men together to gang rape the mother/sister/daughter of the man who built the thing and-voila!-Allah is mighty pleased and justice is done. What a great country!


Bitman  Wednesday Apr 5 06:47 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
It looks like he's spinning it by hand. What a workout that would be.
And lookit how fast it's going! No leisurly twirl would make the seats swing that far out.


Leah  Wednesday Apr 5 07:01 PM

Makes me laugh, have a look at the kids in the carriage on the right, typical kids no matter where they are in the world, no matter how rich or poor, they all try their hardest to make the ride rock even more. Nice to see the simple things in life can put smiles on children's faces.



richlevy  Wednesday Apr 5 08:03 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bitman
And lookit how fast it's going! No leisurly twirl would make the seats swing that far out.
Or, they could just be rocking.


capnhowdy  Wednesday Apr 5 08:38 PM

I got 'asked to exit' a ferris wheel once for rocking it too much. Alcohol had absolutely no influence whatsoever. I don't think I'd be cahonified enough to test this one.

And oh yeah... the smiles. To this day I always head straight to the wheel every time I go to the fair. While you ride, if you try not to smile, it makes your face hurt. Try it next time.



CaptainWingSauce  Friday Apr 7 09:15 AM

This is one of many new rides that are to be featured at Micheal Jackson's brand new Neverwealthy Ranch located in one of the richest parts Pakistan.



chrisinhouston  Friday Apr 7 10:35 AM

About 15 years ago, 2 of my sons joined a boy scout troop that had been in the neighborhood continuously for about 80 years. They were really into traditional boy scout stuff like pioneering projects where you lash things together. Every year there was a big display from all troop around the city where they show all their scout knowledge. Over the years I saw them build a ferris wheel, 2 towers with a zip line between them and a merry go round, all out of pine tree logs and rope. This kind of reminds me of one of their projects.

I guess the interesting thing is that the kids pictured here are all smiles. They may live in squallor and have empty stomachs but you got to give them credit for having a good time when the opportunity offers it.



xoxoxoBruce  Friday Apr 7 05:02 PM

This one looks more like a scout project than it does the wheel of fortune.



glatt  Monday May 22 01:43 PM

Just found this picture on a random live journal page. Looked familiar.



Happy Monkey  Monday May 22 03:58 PM

Interesting style juxtaposition, with the nicely shaped spokes, and the the rough log uprights.



MaggieL  Monday May 22 04:44 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Undertoad
What a strange statement on humanity - that in the midst of this living condition, it's worthwhile to spend a little effort to put together something to entertain the young ones for a few minutes.
You sure can tell who has kids. :-)

No matter what your living conditions, anything that amuses the rugrats long enough for you to rub two brain cells together is worth the effort.

Bronwyn (my co-parent, for the non-old-timers) and I still remeber your question of many years ago, UT: "Who gets the life?"

It's still on-point.


Undertoad  Monday May 22 05:36 PM

Quote:
We see these kid things as incredibly difficult items that will tend to waste our lives into nothingness. Well, that's how I see it, anyway. You have to give up a large part of your life with a kid; and I guess you're doing it for the kid's sake, but then, why? Why, if all you get is another person who has to give up THEIR life for a kid? What I want to know is, who gets the life?
I was in my late 20s when I wrote that. Not sure it's answered yet.


MaggieL  Monday May 22 05:43 PM

I'll be 54 at the end of the month...no answer yet here either. :-) And Robin will be 24 on July 4th. :-)



Jacquelita  Monday May 22 06:20 PM

"You have to give up a large part of your life with a kid; and I guess you're doing it for the kid's sake, but then, why? Why, if all you get is another person who has to give up THEIR life for a kid? What I want to know is, who gets the life?"

You don't "give up" your life for a kid. Do your priorities shift? Absolutely. Do you set some things aside because of this? probably. But the real truth is that you gain much much more than you ever could possibly give up.

Even speaking as a single mom, (a hard row to hoe many many nights!) I can say that without my kids I'm almost frightened to think of the kind of person I would have been. My children have given me a purpose in life, and motivation to be a better human. My children have opened up a well of love in me that I never would have known otherwise.

Without my kids, I would never know what it means to completely put someone else's well being before mine - without reservation. My children have given me an amazing amount of joy just watching them grow into sentient beings who actually have their own voice, their own ideas and opinions.

Its inexplicable to those who don't have kids. This is why I become annoyed at childless people who think their pets are their children. For the most part, animals will love whoever is feeding them. Pets are great - and wonderful companions - but children are work. You put your entire self into them, and many times on a daily basis get headaches and heartaches in return. The truth is however, that the headaches and heartaches pale in comparison to the fulfillment - the shear joy that comes to you through your children.

Despite the day to day turmoil we face as parents, having children enables us to know something greater than ourselves, and as a result our lives are expanded in ways we cannot even begin to fathom. And it never stops. Give up my life? No way - I have a much richer and more fulfilled life because of my children.



Undertoad  Monday May 22 06:26 PM

Ah but J you see it differently because you are so full of love.



capnhowdy  Monday May 22 06:48 PM

...wipes eyes gently with Kleenex..... ponders on current situation.



BigV  Monday May 22 06:55 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by MaggieL
"Who gets the life?"
I'll guess the tone and inflection here and suggest that the answer should be someone other than the questioner. Someone who has to ask that question is looking for the answer "Me, I hope." implying that the one with the primary kid care responsibilities doesn't get "the life". I would contend that the questioner doesn't get "it", as my life is filled (in all the good ways) with my kids.

I would ask that question, but in a way that permits sharing of the life, not either/or.


MaggieL  Monday May 22 08:30 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigV
I'll guess the tone and inflection here and suggest that the answer should be someone other than the questioner.
Well part of the backstory here is that I have two kids...and I believe UT still doesn't have any. This is a topic that's been batted around here before.

Let me say clearly: I don't regret having had kids at all...even though the situation considereing what happened in *my* life about a decade after they were born has made things....interesting to say the least.

But anyone who hasn't had to juggle their own needs against their kids' and wondered where the balance is just isn't paying attention. But I (and Bronwyn too, at least at the time) understood perfectly where UT was coming from.

I will add that both the nature and amount of kids' needs shifts dramatically as they get older. Also that I beleive an ability to insist that your own needs (quiet, intimacy, respect, even sleep) sometimes take priority over your kids desires is necessary to raising polite, considerate offspring.

Another aspect to this story is that the last of my retirement savings just went largely to putting daughter #1 through college while I was unemployed. #2 starts at Pitt in August...good thing I found a job or she wouldn't be getting any help from me; not because I would have been unwilling but because I would have been unable. At times like these when I recall my own parents telling me I'd better get scholarships, because they had little to contribute (Dad was a clergyman), that "who gets the life" question does resonate a bit. -)


xoxoxoBruce  Monday May 22 08:46 PM

I gave up the idea of kids when my mother wished I have some just like me.



MaggieL  Monday May 22 08:46 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacquelita
I can say that without my kids I'm almost frightened to think of the kind of person I would have been. My children have given me a purpose in life...
Yikes...that *is* frightening. What would you have done if you found out you were sterile?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacquelita
Without my kids, I would never know what it means to completely put someone else's well being before mine - without reservation.
Some folks would say that's what marriage is about.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacquelita
My children have given me an amazing amount of joy just watching them grow into sentient beings who actually have their own voice, their own ideas and opinions.
Yeah, I'll second *that* emotion. Getting to the point where I recognize my daughters as adults in their own right (well, the 18-yo has a ways to go yet, but then in some ways the 23-yo had a long road ahead too :-) ) is one of the truly awe-inspiring and magical things about parenthood.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacquelita
This is why I become annoyed at childless people who think their pets are their children.
Second that one too. Don't tell *me* your cat is your kid...you have no clue...


MaggieL  Monday May 22 08:48 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
I gave up the idea of kids when my mother wished I have some just like me.
I still have video of the older daughter at about age four wearing t-shirt that says, simply: "Grandmom's Revenge". :-)


Jacquelita  Monday May 22 09:08 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by MaggieL
Yikes...that *is* frightening. What would you have done if you found out you were sterile?
I guess the point that I was trying to make here is that I probably would've been much more self-centered and immature without the kids coming along. I think it would've taken me a lot longer to learn some pretty basic but important things about priorities. Also - being the primary caretaker for the two kids has forced me to be more independent - I have learned to appreciate that I am much stronger and smarter than I would've ever given myself credit for 20 years ago.

Quote:
Originally Posted by MaggieL
Some folks would say that's what marriage is about.
I disagree. I believe that marriage is a partnership. A union of "equals". Meaning that each person bears equal responsibility and respect. I would never put my partner above me - nor would I ever put them below me. They must walk beside me to share the joy and the burdens of life.


xoxoxoBruce  Monday May 22 09:19 PM

Unless there's landmines.



MaggieL  Monday May 22 09:37 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacquelita
I guess the point that I was trying to make here is that I probably would've been much more self-centered and immature without the kids coming along.
Another family saying was "Raising kids is the only game for grown-ups"...part of the point being that nothing will mature your ass like raising kids...successfully.

Of course, anybody can do it wrong...and the evidence of that is down in Philly selling crack and shooting cops.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacquelita
I disagree. I believe that marriage is a partnership. A union of "equals"
Well, I did say "some people would say...". :-) Learning to draw proper boundaries took me a *long* time...and I had some serious personal issues I had to resolve first.


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