August 19, 2006: Naked woman hugs dead pig in performance art (NSFW)

I know a little about art, and I certainly know what I like and don't like, and I've decided I don't like this. Don't agree with any part of it. Apparently this went off last night.

Is it cheaper to subsidize their art than to house them under Wolf"s care?

, Griff. Not piglady

A couple of questions:

How many performances before it (and she) start to smell like pork gone bad?

Who gets the bacon?

Why doesn't she have an apple in her mouth? Now THAT would be art!

What the fuck is the swan looking at?

Just curious.

I think she's missing a great chance to make a real artistic statement by just taking a big dump in the middle of the bed, then wallowing in it along with the dead pig. Now *that's* real piggishness. Slacker bitch.

the swann is looking at her boobs.

subtitle: What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.

You nailed it Rich. That photo with that caption should be the fifth result when you google Las Vegas.

Well, to be fair, the pig's the one that started it.

I read that *ahem* artists statement about "mergence and interspecies metamorphoses" but what I think she meant was "bestial necrophilia"

Am I seeing things, or does she have two nipple rings? The pig ought to have one in his nose, to reinforce her "undercurrent of pigginess."

ewwwwwwwww.

I wonder how much money it would take to bribe a famous modern artist to shit in a jar, make up some background story, and pass it off as art. On a plus note, it must be a huge ego boost to see people fawning over and praising your shit.

That is one sad sick little critter. And the pig doesn't look so good either.

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Originally Posted by Pangloss62 Not really. Just an arrogant and self-concious use of English to give the "impression" of sophistication. "Mergence?" That's just awful.

Any relation to Bill O'Reilly? Maybe she has daddy issues.

Today's word is falafel.

I assume she is not a muslim, although, if she were, THAT would be one hell of an artistic statement.

I feel sorry for the pig. Being dead and all. What a waste of tits.

I knew a woman who used to hug a dead pig.



I called her Mom.

And the North Eastern Judges give the previous quartet of posters a 9.7.

I laughed until I stopped.

A poem:

Mom, your big tits
Like a curtain
Kept the pigs
Out of the mosque

Sure, I do and I'm a pig.... or is that redundant

Pigs liking tits? Or 'Ew?'

Men ogling tits are pigs, I've been told...repeatedly.

Ah, yes. "My eyes are up 'here,' ya pig!"

Pig is dead
She sits
Naked
Cutting out
What she cannot
Have

Tori Amos did the whole 'pig statement' much better on 'Boys for Pele', where she suckled (as in breast fed a pig) on the album art.

For some reason, the middle classes think people should pay to see them indulge their own fantasies. When the poor or stupid create 'art' like this in their own homes, they are locked up.

Ms O'Reilly could fuel her "unexpected fantasies of mergence and interspecies metamorphoses" and enhance her "undercurrent of pigginess" by 'squealing like a pig' (Deliverance style), going to live in a pig sty for a year (naked, of course), or hanging upside and bleeding like one. Now that I would pay to see.

However, what she is doing is no worse than an average business does on a day-to-day basis. Why is it OK to eat and wear animal products where the animal has been treated much worse before and after death, but when some dumb young lady takes off her clothes and messes around with a dead pig, everyone gets upset? Anyone seen what goes on in an abbatoir (or a mortuary, come to think of it)? If I was the pig, I'd rather be despatched in the arms of a naked woman in the dubious name of 'art' than be sent to the grinder and end up in a McBreakfast.

You know, If I took a carboard jeep, turned it upside down, painted a purple streak diagnolly down the middle, and sat on it naked wearing only red socks, and took a picture of myself, it would sell for a million dollars as modern art!

it would probably just kill the jeep industry

The thing that bothers me about this kind of stuff is that it certainly - and rightly - gives the artistic community a bad name. Where is there a sane artist or professor who denounces this as non-art and fundamentally fradulent? Let's hear from the professors of art at the universities, and from some real artists. Any word from them? Or are they just as stupid and deranged as this woman and the Art Gallery. Are artists all so stupid that nobody will condemn this?

There's a pig in the picture? Where? I don't see one.

Meh. The League of Gentlemen did it better:

It is often about the hype not the content as Han van Meegeren showed.

Psstt... the pig is only sleeping.

Thanks Griff, I love it too.

Okay.

1. I live with/am marrying an artist. She only had to say WTF about this.

2. I can go into the slum area of any city and probably find some nut dancing around with dead rats.

Is this art? No.There isn't ANY part of this that is art.

Is this the sign of a derranged mind? Yes.

If this is what she considers art then the guys with the butterfly nets better find her before she decides to do an encore with larger lifeforms.

But that's just one man's opinion, I may be wrong....

I don't know much about art, but .......I've got a dictionary.

"To each, his/her own" is exactly right. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, including the beauty of art. There are those people who don't like this, who look at this and think it's a peice of shit, a travesty, an affront to real artists. Other people like this, they are obviously brain damaged.

hee hee hee

The lady obviously likes a bit of pork between her thighs.

I didn't think anybody could stoop lower than Damiean Hurst the Worst and Tracey Emen the Empty in trying to convince people that they're artists but this braindead, talentless, bottom burp has.

Art my arse!

I think one measure of art is its ability to get people thinking about art, and by that measure it succeeds.

I ain't arguing it's great art, or even all that good.

It's like this class I took in "The 18th Century African American Novel" or some such. By most account, these works weren't great literature, full of their own stereotypes, melodrama, derivative of the popular works of the day.... but they were still worthy of study, partially because of the environment they were written in. From that, I came up with my personal "multiple intelligences theory for art". Just like it doesn't make sense to measure people on a single scale and call that "intelligence", I think art can succeed on many different planes. Great art, like Mozart or Shakespeare, will succeed on many levels, but pretty much anything that has gotten any attention at all probably works on at least some level.

The funny thing is that 90% of NEA is this truly uncontroversial stuff, lots of support of folk arts and all the rest. And stuff along these lines and "Piss Christ" make it easy targets. But I don't want that kind of thinking to frame this debate.

Art has had big problems ever since photography entered the scene. Once it became easy to produce "realistic" images of life, art has had to figure out its own purpose.

I guess people are distrustful of art when it seems like it might be divorced from craft, or at least practiced skill. They doubt the sincerity of the artist and think it might all just be a big scam.

FWIW, this is the only place I've seen word of this exhibit, so it doesn't seem to be setting the world on fire anyway. And it's better than the other tact whcih brings us Thomas Kincaid galleries and maybe even these goddamn jittering smilies I get to chose from to make up the gap between informal written speech and the spoken word.


I mean hell, why do I have the option of this and anyway?

I thought I should look at how the dictionary defines art.

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Originally Posted by kisrael I mean hell, why do I have the option of this and anyway?

My favorite bumperstickerable slogan is "Good Art Does Not Match Your Sofa."

Naked lady cavorting with dead pig certainly doesn't match MY sofa.

At least, now that I got a decent slipcover for it.

And what is it about a naked chick hugging a dead pig while cutting it up is aesthetically pleasing to "art" lovers?? Give me a pianting of a flower or buiding any day!

Very artistic indeed!! But where, may I ask, is the naked woman to make it "Art"?

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Originally Posted by BlacKat1980 Very artistic indeed!! But where, may I ask, is the naked woman to make it "Art"?

Personally I say that , my definition is "Art is What You Can Get Away With". It's a mix of intention and convincing other people of your intention.

Excellent. That's the best I've heard yet.

"How rich art is; if one can only remember what one has seen, one is never without food for thought or truly lonely, never alone."
Vincent Van Gogh to Theo

That's because Vinnie didn't have a PC and the Cellar.