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Undertoad Tuesday Jan 2 09:14 AM |
January 2, 2007: Nebraska ice storm
Sheldonrs Tuesday Jan 2 09:17 AM 'tis the season to be freezin'. I guess the rumors about global warming were exagerated. rnx Tuesday Jan 2 09:54 AM Quote:
Global temperatures rise, atmosphere temperature rises More evaporation occur in the large bodies of water (hence places where they get more snow) Since the atmosphere temperature rises, two things can then happen: It'll rain, and the rain will freeze because of clouds (remember the evaporation) -or- if no clouds form, temperature at surface will be equal to the one in the atmosphere (hence warmer) It depends where you are located. Normally, where I live, winter with snow starts around November 15th and ends around February 15th. This year, there wasn't any snow until December 25th. And it melted. So winter hasn't officially started yet for me ![]() And YET - in my old city, winter started 2 months early, and the temperatures are WELL below season normals. So yeah, global warming doesn't necessarily mean warmer seasons ![]() frankchicarelli Tuesday Jan 2 09:56 AM there's something disturbing about the picture of the guy's hand around that piece of ice Kitsune Tuesday Jan 2 09:57 AM Quote:
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![]() Undertoad Tuesday Jan 2 10:02 AM frank I noticed that... figured I would leave it in anyway. The guy wanted to give a sense of scale to how much ice was there; wasn't the sense of scale he intended. And I guess a sense of scale is different to every yanker out there... CaliforniaMama Tuesday Jan 2 10:03 AM I can hear my kids now: sword fighting with grass-cicles!!!! charmzny Tuesday Jan 2 10:08 AM I've already lived through this in 1998. Most of northern New York State (yes, there is a state above Syracuse) and alot of southern Ontario and Quebec Canada got a huge ice storm. We were under a state of emergency - no power for at least two-three weeks unless you had a generator, no phones for over a month. Every pole was down between Clayton, NY and Watertown, NY (a 20mile stretch of road) plus many more all around the county. It was destructive, but oddly beautiful. I still have pictures somewhere. Undertoad Tuesday Jan 2 10:14 AM Yep. We had a minor version of it here in 1994. It killed trees. The worst, though, was when it melted. Instead of soaking into the ground, all that water traveled over top the ice... flooding anything in its tracks... including most of my first floor. Sheldonrs Tuesday Jan 2 10:39 AM Quote:
![]() And the Polar Bears were never really happy there. They really WANT to live in warmer climates and drown trying to get there. Ask anyone in the Bush admin. They'll confirm it. xoxoxoBruce Tuesday Jan 2 11:15 AM Nature and the climate change constantly. The Polar Bears are going through a transitional stage, where there is a shortage of food because the ice for hunting on is diminishing. But, as the ice melts the area becomes warmer and more hospitable to humans. Elspode Tuesday Jan 2 11:56 AM My posting here a couple of years back, with some crappy pics. Not as impressive as the Fark shots, but still pretty. Sheldonrs Tuesday Jan 2 12:23 PM
nephtes Tuesday Jan 2 12:24 PM charmzny: Ah yes, Ice Storm '98. Montreal, where I live, got hit pretty hard, but was a high priority for repairs and we only lost power for a few days. Wikipedia and Google turned up a few nice shots... xoxoxoBruce Tuesday Jan 2 04:34 PM Wiki says... Quote:
Rough calculation gives me a 3/8 inch diameter wire in an 1.5 inch diameter sheath of ice would be 0.727 pounds per liner foot, just ice weight. And a 3/8 inch diameter wire in a 4.5 inch diameter sheath of ice would be 6.255 pounds per linear foot, ice weight. Add the weight of the wire and figure one to several hundred feet between supports(poles/towers), that's a hell of a strain. Then, of course, the bigger the sheath of ice, the more resistance to wind force. Damn, bury those babies. ![]() astrodex Tuesday Jan 2 08:50 PM We had one of these in Boston about 10 years ago. We landed after a visit home to Florida to find the entire city covered in ice. Definite climate shock but it was amazingly beautiful. I felt lucky to have missed the actual event while still being able to enjoy the after effects. xoxoxoBruce Tuesday Jan 2 09:04 PM I saw one of those in Boston during the winter of '62/'63. In the middle of the night we walked fro The Fenway and Huntington, all the way to the Logan Airport, and watched them de-ice planes. kerosene Tuesday Jan 2 09:46 PM We lived in this area just before we moved back to Colorado just over a year ago. I hear they haven't had power for a week in the town we lived in. Check out the shot of the tower that collapsed. It just looks wicked. CaliforniaMama Wednesday Jan 3 01:15 AM Quote:
So much for the might of man . . . Ibby Wednesday Jan 3 03:14 AM Fuck. I hate the tropics. Its so damn hot in cambodia I can't even BREATHE, let alone sleep. charmzny Wednesday Jan 3 11:30 AM Quote:
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Iggy Wednesday Jan 3 12:53 PM We had something similar happen to us a year or two ago (I can't remember for the life of me when exactly it was). I do know it was in January. It was very beautiful, but unfortunatly I didn't have a camera at the time so I don't have pictures. Maybe I can find some online... Sarasvati48 Wednesday Jan 3 02:35 PM How come every time it happens to snow or freeze up somewhere, some clown comes out saying that global warming is a rumor? There's ice in my freezer...does that mean that the polar bears are not losing land to stand on? xoxoxoBruce Wednesday Jan 3 03:42 PM Minor point, but they're not losing land to stand on, they're losing ice to hunt on. That's why they're hungry. Beestie Wednesday Jan 3 06:23 PM Quote:
Just because its new to you doesn't mean its new. glatt Thursday Jan 4 08:27 AM Quote:
vidacita Thursday Jan 4 09:22 AM "So I guess that ice shelf didn't actually separate from the north of Canada last week" Beestie Thursday Jan 4 10:37 AMGoogle Chicken Little. xoxoxoBruce Thursday Jan 4 10:51 AM Welcome to the Cellar, vidacita. glatt Thursday Jan 4 11:03 AMChicken Little thought the sky was falling, but was mistaken. Scientists agree that the Earth is warming. They are almost certainly right. Spexxvet Thursday Jan 4 11:07 AM Quote:
Beestie Thursday Jan 4 11:12 AM Quote:
And I was making a less obvious critique of the selective use of "evidence" proferred by the "sky is falling" crowd. If its too warm, its global warming. If its too cold, its global warming. To pick up on HM's point, the earth used to be one continent. Now, its several continents. The earth used to be an ice cube. Now its not. We could shove a cork up every tailpipe, exhaust pipe, bovine butt and industrial smokestack on planet earth and the earth would still be getting warmer. Just like it has been for a long, long time. Like they say, if you don't like the eco climate, just wait 50 thousand years. CharlieG Friday Jan 5 09:40 AMcloser to home time wise - they used to grow grapes in Greenland.... beauregaardhooligan Monday Jan 8 08:56 PM eyep. xoxoxoBruce Monday Jan 8 11:24 PM Welcome to the Cellar, hooligan. beauregaardhooligan Monday Jan 8 11:32 PM 'Preciate it, Bruce! kerosene Tuesday Jan 9 02:03 AM Quote:
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