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   ZenGum  Sunday Feb 3 12:09 PM

February 4, 2008: Oil money in politics

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Graphic representation of information usually goes well here.

The good people at Oil Change International have tallied up which US politicians are getting money from the oil industry, and laid it out here.
The site is very interactive: you can see all sorts of details: names of candidates, companies, and if you follow the links, even more.

The size of the company's logo indicates how much they have given. The size of the candidate's picture indicates how much they have received, and the thickness of the lines indicate how much each company has given each candidate.

Unfortunately, the image doesn't transfer well: the original has all sorts of features which show names for each icon. These were lost in the transfer, so check the original site.

Most interesting I think is that Giuliani has (so far) got the most money, and it hasn't done him much good.

You can also check the last two elections. No surprises there!

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xoxoxoBruce  Sunday Feb 3 02:08 PM

So it all adds up to a couple million bucks. Kind of a pisshole in a snowbank compared to the money that's been gathered by the candidates.



classicman  Sunday Feb 3 02:16 PM

In fairness to the idiot in the above (Bush not xoB), he was/is in the business and certainly has lots of contacts there. Conversely the opponents were running against that specific issue so taking money from them wouldn't have worked out so well for either the donor or the recipient.



classicman  Sunday Feb 3 03:24 PM

And with some different percentages.....
In dollars:
GIULIANI, RUDOLPH W. REP + $568,708
ROMNEY, MITT REP + $345,383
CLINTON, HILLARY DEM + $235,250
MCCAIN, JOHN S REP + $206,935
OBAMA, BARACK DEM + $110,412



classicman  Sunday Feb 3 03:26 PM

BTW - that little indiscernible blue square to the left (no pun) of McCain is Obama.



TheMercenary  Sunday Feb 3 05:29 PM

Good stuff. Thanks. Of course we have to believe their data is accurate.



Kolbenfresser  Monday Feb 4 02:50 AM

What about the other big companies? Would be great to see the whole picture.



slang  Monday Feb 4 09:58 AM

Minor problem here.

McCain is not a REP, he's a R-I-N-O. Don't let anybody tell you he's a conservative either. That is complete effing bullshit.

Ok. That's all. Thank you for your attention.



Undertoad  Monday Feb 4 10:25 AM

Quote:
McCain is not a REP, he's a R-I-N-O.
That is the biggest thing that makes him E-L-E-C-T-A-B-L-E.


slang  Monday Feb 4 02:34 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Undertoad View Post
That is the biggest thing that makes him E-L-E-C-T-A-B-L-E.
Electable, yes. By the conservative Reps, I very much doubt it.

Does it matter? Not if enough independants vote for him.

In a tossup between Hillary and McCain, he only has sliver's worth of advantage.

We'll see how things work out here on Tuesday.


Undertoad  Monday Feb 4 02:57 PM

Current poll averages at Real Clear Politics:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo.../national.html

Clinton vs McCain: McCain by 1.6%
Obama vs McCain: Obama by 1%
Clinton vs Romney: Clinton by 11.3%
Obama vs Romney: Obama by 15.4%
Clinton vs Huckabee: Clinton by 9.9%
Obama vs Huckabee: Obama by 16.6%



classicman  Monday Feb 4 08:34 PM

Obama vs McCain...

In my opinion, best options left. I think I'd be relatively happy with either one at this point. (Strange but true)



euphoriatheory  Monday Feb 4 08:44 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Undertoad View Post
Clinton vs McCain: McCain by 1.6%
Obama vs McCain: Obama by 1%
Clinton vs Romney: Clinton by 11.3%
Obama vs Romney: Obama by 15.4%
Clinton vs Huckabee: Clinton by 9.9%
Obama vs Huckabee: Obama by 16.6%
Oh dear, sweet Jesus...

Without attempting to draw fire, I gotta say, I'm a registered Republican, and that looks pretty bleak to me.

Oh well. Maybe hubby WON'T be headed back to Iraq....


Clodfobble  Monday Feb 4 10:56 PM

I've been confused this whole time as to why more people hate Romney than Huckabee. Huckabee is the most similar to Bush, as far as I can see--what is it about Romney that Dems and moderates hate so much?



Flint  Monday Feb 4 11:51 PM

It's those special underwear.



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