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   xoxoxoBruce  Tuesday Mar 11 02:30 AM

March 11, 2008: China's Cat Cleaning

From the Daily Mail...

Quote:
Thousands of pet cats in Beijing are being abandoned by their owners and sent to die in secretive government pounds as China mounts an aggressive drive to clean up the capital in preparation for the Olympic Games.

Hundreds of cats a day are being rounded and crammed into cages so small they cannot even turn around.

Then they are trucked to what animal welfare groups describe as death camps on the edges of the city.

The cull comes in the wake of a government campaign warning of the diseases cats carry and ordering residents to help clear the streets of them.

Cat owners, terrified by the disease warning, are dumping their pets in the streets to be picked up by special collection teams.

Paranoia is so intense that six stray cats -including two pregnant females - were beaten to death with sticks by teachers at a Beijing kindergarten, who feared they might pass illnesses to the children.

China's leaders are convinced that animals pose a serious urban health risk and may have contributed to the outbreak of SARS - a deadly respiratory virus - in 2003.
Well, they do have to feed all those athletes and tourists.


SPUCK  Tuesday Mar 11 05:46 AM

Wonders never cease in CN.

Remember they had a big dog round up last year. They just showed up and demanded everyone's dogs. Then they came back late at night and made loud noises so they could zero in on any dog that barked. Killed'em all.

I see now the other shoe has dropped.



auzmericans  Tuesday Mar 11 07:42 AM

Intense...

That is crazy, just looking at that picture makes me sad.

I mean, i'm not really a cat lover, but thats just cruel. I do have a cat, that I didn't ask for, was just kinda, thrust upon me, but now I love her and it just makes me feel bad inside looking at those poor cats in the picture.



val5150  Tuesday Mar 11 08:59 AM

So much needless pain could be saved, if only people would spay and neuter. These domestic animals all live to serve us one way or another, why must we be irrisponsible about serving them in return?



Trilby  Tuesday Mar 11 09:34 AM

Hi, auzmericans and val5150.

welcome to the cellar.


I hate the way the Chinese treat animals...but, then, look at the way they treat people...



spudcon  Tuesday Mar 11 09:38 AM

Those that don't learn from history are bound to repeat it. Back during the "Cultural Revolution," cats were proclaimed part of the "decadent western culture." They slaughtered lots of them before the mice and rats started out populating the people, so they stopped. It's gonna be interesting to watch the rat races as a new olympic sport.



Shawnee123  Tuesday Mar 11 09:40 AM

Maybe they could take their Olympic profits and use them toward public education, spaying and neutering, and the development of more humane ways to rid themselves of their feral cat population. Nah, they'll just invest in more lead paint. Let's send more money their way!



LabRat  Tuesday Mar 11 09:53 AM

Interesting indeed, spudcon.



Sheldonrs  Tuesday Mar 11 10:00 AM

Gosh, but China is KNOWN for their forward-thinking advancement of the rights of all living things.



Cloud  Tuesday Mar 11 10:05 AM

this, after they killed all the dogs for fear of rabies!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/5233704.stm

They really don't like pets there!

absolutely abominable cruelty. Don't they realize people would rather see stray cats around than contemplate this abhorrent slaughter?



glatt  Tuesday Mar 11 12:10 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cloud View Post
Don't they realize people would rather see stray cats around than contemplate this abhorrent slaughter?
The quoted text of the article says the opposite, that the people want this to happen. They are putting their own beloved pet cats out on the street to be picked up by these guys because they are afraid the cats will make them sick and kill them.

Unless by "people" you mean Westerners watching from abroad.

Quote:
Cat owners, terrified by the disease warning, are dumping their pets in the streets to be picked up by special collection teams.

Paranoia is ... intense



runswithknives  Tuesday Mar 11 12:47 PM

Suppose we should start associating "Yellow Fever" as a disease only carried by the Chinese, shackle them in little cages and kill them at the edges of our cities? Almost as logical as what they're doing..

Fucking disgusting.



Cloud  Tuesday Mar 11 12:48 PM

well, yeah, I meant the visitors to the Olympics.

But there's an inconsistency. First the article says they are trying to clean up the streets for the Olympics. Then it says people are paranoid about disease?

the Chinese propaganda machine is obviously efficient. People spread far more disease than cats.

Ack! this just pisses me off. Stupid Olympics should be boycotted for China's violation of human and animal rights.



Shawnee123  Tuesday Mar 11 12:49 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by glatt View Post
The quoted text of the article says the opposite, that the people want this to happen. They are putting their own beloved pet cats out on the street to be picked up by these guys because they are afraid the cats will make them sick and kill them.
Unless by "people" you mean Westerners watching from abroad.
(bold mine)
And they're the next superpower?

Quote:
Originally Posted by runswithknives View Post
Suppose we should start associating "Yellow Fever" as a disease only carried by the Chinese, shackle them in little cages and kill them at the edges of our cities? Almost as logical as what they're doing..

Fucking disgusting.
Yeah, I'm scared of Da Fever. Round up time.


janet  Tuesday Mar 11 03:08 PM

There is supposedly a move away from lab animal testing in the US because of cruelty concerns. Is it being stopped? No, it's being outsourced - to China.

And the Chinese are hardly alone in the world with their attitudes about animals, unfortunately.



Shawnee123  Tuesday Mar 11 03:32 PM

Yes, but for a country that is considered so progressive they were awarded the opportunity to host the freaking Olympics, this story about cruelty to animals has LONG been overshadowed by stories about cruelty to people. I'm not saying there aren't other countries who treat animals and humans as badly, but they aren't hosting the Olympics in Cuba, Iran, or Zimbabwe, either. Good time for a boycott.



HungLikeJesus  Tuesday Mar 11 03:35 PM

Alright, I won't go. Who else?

Edit:
It turns out this whole article is false. That picture is the local meals-on-wheels delivery service.



Shawnee123  Tuesday Mar 11 03:37 PM

Good. I have plans for you here, anyway.

Bwahaaahaaa.

Such a clever mini-god you are.



Cicero  Tuesday Mar 11 03:59 PM

Yea...I was just hoping Shawnee didn't see this thread......but..of course...



Shawnee123  Tuesday Mar 11 04:18 PM

Eh, bite me, cic.

THere are a lot of threads I keep hoping you won't see. Get your ass back in chat where you don't cause any problems.



Shawnee123  Tuesday Mar 11 04:45 PM

I've been kicked out of the love nest again? Damn!



Cicero  Tuesday Mar 11 05:39 PM

Fine asshole.....I'll just go talk to myself some more. (still causes problems)



Shawnee123  Tuesday Mar 11 06:18 PM

You know I luvs ya, right?



Aliantha  Tuesday Mar 11 06:37 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shawnee123 View Post
(bold mine)
And they're the next superpower?



Yeah, I'm scared of Da Fever. Round up time.
Ummm...have you not noticed the bad press that crackers and rednecks get shawnee?


Shawnee123  Tuesday Mar 11 06:40 PM

wtf is that supposed to mean?

I know you didn't just call me a cracker or a redneck, because you would be sorely mistaken.

Damn, I hate it when a thread turns into a shawnee fuckaroo rodeo. Cracker ass cracker.



Aliantha  Tuesday Mar 11 06:44 PM

No I wasn't talking about you. I was talking about the members of your society who you all like to crack jokes about too because of some of their weird ideas.

My point was that the world doesn't judge America on those people's way of thinking, but every country has a demographic which is either a bit crazy or weird or perhaps even supersticious. That's all.



Shawnee123  Tuesday Mar 11 06:57 PM

Forgive me that you missed my asshole sense of humor; I tend to take the most extreme and point it out, like many commodians, I mean comedians, do.

But let me ask you this: If your government told your entire country that their pets were killing you and you would be better off if you would let the government round them up how many of your friends and neighbors do you think would start throwing their cats to the slaughter? Sure, a few of the demographic who is "crazy or weird" but whole scale? I think not.

And America is judged as well. I'm a proud American but I am not blind to the atrocities right here at home and I certainly am not blind to the fact that we live up to some stereotypes (that's how they're born, btw.)

Me having an opinion about THEIR GOVERNMENT scaring the people into throwing their cats to the wolves is no different than me having an opinion that OUR GOVERNMENT doesn't give much of a rat's rump what we say or think.

I don't think it's the common folk who are vying for superpower; don't you usually have to be a power before you can try for superpower? You are missing that fine difference.



Aliantha  Tuesday Mar 11 07:03 PM

I think you're missing my point Shawnee, but don't worry about it. It really doesn't matter anyway.



Cicero  Tuesday Mar 11 07:33 PM

They've been exterminating their people too... I can't imagine that their cats are any better off....
I'll bring it up again but I'll just call it the MDV....I just do this because I am horrified by it....extremely horrified.



skysidhe  Tuesday Mar 11 09:26 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shawnee123 View Post
wtf is that supposed to mean?
She called 'bad press' crackers and rednecks.

I think

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cicero View Post
I can't imagine that their cats are any better off....
Then Don't buy any garments from china esp with fur.

http://www.peta2.com/TakeCharge/t-dogcatfur.asp

Quote:
Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus View Post
Alright, I won't go. Who else?

Edit:
It turns out this whole article is false. That picture is the local meals-on-wheels delivery service.
that shouldn't be funny


xoxoxoBruce  Tuesday Mar 11 11:37 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by glatt View Post
They are putting their own beloved pet cats out on the street to be picked up by these guys because they are afraid the cats will make them sick and kill them.
Because it's China, I wonder how many are really afraid of their cats, vs how many are afraid of their neighbors reaction if they don't give them up?


Flint  Wednesday Mar 12 09:56 AM

...



Shawnee123  Wednesday Mar 12 10:03 AM

.



euphoriatheory  Wednesday Mar 12 06:01 PM

....where do I send MY cat to be cleansed?



Happy Monkey  Wednesday Mar 12 06:11 PM




Gravdigr  Wednesday Mar 12 07:18 PM

Of course it's deplorable. But, come on now, who is really surprised by this? It's China. They treat their own people like shit, why wouldn't they treat their animals like this?



xoxoxoBruce  Wednesday Mar 12 10:41 PM

All together now...



Elspode  Wednesday Mar 12 11:20 PM

Meanwhile, you can't breathe the air there, which will be some fun for high performance athletes, visitors and residents alike.

Why don't they make everyone take out their air and kill it?



Sundae  Thursday Mar 13 07:46 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elspode View Post
Why don't they make everyone take out their air and kill it?
I think they already did.


BrianR  Friday Mar 14 11:20 AM

they can have my beloved's damn cats.

oh yeah, I have dogs. Chew toys!



Cicero  Friday Mar 14 11:51 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gravdigr View Post
Of course it's deplorable. But, come on now, who is really surprised by this? It's China. They treat their own people like shit, why wouldn't they treat their animals like this?
That looks like this:
http://www.cellar.org/showpost.php?p...7&postcount=29



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