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   xoxoxoBruce  Tuesday Jun 10 01:19 AM

June 10, 2008: Landship

World War I was someone else's business to the majority of Americans. Europe was far, far away, before TV and global communications. In order to win support, for the US getting involved, the government had to do some public relations work... here's one example.

Quote:
New York, 1917. "Landship Recruit on Union Square." The U.S.S. Recruit, a wooden battleship erected by the Navy, served as a World War I recruiting station in Union Square from 1917 to 1920.



Flint  Tuesday Jun 10 01:20 AM

Did they recruit two of each kind of God's creatures?



Pearcie (AUS)  Tuesday Jun 10 04:26 AM

War without TV

It's hard to imagine what it would be like to know there was a major war going on and not have constant news stories, interviews, video footage and other technology related media shoving every detail down our throats.

Though it would probably have made it a whole lot easier to recruit.



Shawnee123  Tuesday Jun 10 08:39 AM

Landship. Candygram.



spudcon  Tuesday Jun 10 09:11 AM

Life was simpler back then. Only 2 guys working, and the rest of the slackers just walking around in their derbys, watching the peasants work. GET A JOB!



Imigo Jones  Tuesday Jun 10 11:26 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shawnee123 View Post
Landship. Candygram.
. . . "Oh, okay, then. . . ."

___

This pic is along the lines of how I always imagined the Austrian fleet of Capt. Von Trapp.
"Man overboard! Man overboard!"
"Nein vorry--Ich be back mit zum Edelweiss Strudel in ein Hour."
"Yah, Ensign, You do Dat--und vhile at Bakery, please to check how many Osterreichmarken vor ein Alpenbilly Vedding Cake."


xoxoxoBruce  Tuesday Jun 10 11:37 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by spudcon View Post
Life was simpler back then. Only 2 guys working, and the rest of the slackers just walking around in their derbys, watching the peasants work. GET A JOB!
They are waiting to join up.


Diaphone Jim  Tuesday Jun 10 11:54 AM

A hundred years later, the US's wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are still "somebody else's business to the majority of Amercans," the burden being borne directly by only a few.
And if you think "TV and global communications" help in some way, then you must get different channels than I do.



Shawnee123  Tuesday Jun 10 12:41 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Imigo Jones View Post
. . . "Oh, okay, then. . . ."

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newtimer  Tuesday Jun 10 02:34 PM

Looks like black was in fashion that year.



Flint  Tuesday Jun 10 02:39 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by newtimer View Post
Looks like black was in fashion that year.
Especially when you consider that is actually a color photograph.


Griff  Tuesday Jun 10 04:44 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Diaphone Jim View Post
A hundred years later, the US's wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are still "somebody else's business to the majority of Amercans," the burden being borne directly by only a few.
And if you think "TV and global communications" help in some way, then you must get different channels than I do.
If only the dopes with the wooden battleship had failed, wars thar ARE none of our business might never have become so popular.


hulk  Tuesday Jun 10 04:54 PM

Holy ship!! That's all fine and dandy, but what do they do when they're done building it? Hire more recruits to tear it apart?



Big Sarge  Tuesday Jun 10 05:22 PM

Gee Griff, it sounds like you don't support the current military deployments. LOL.



tw  Tuesday Jun 10 05:41 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Sarge View Post
Gee Griff, it sounds like you don't support the current military deployments.
Griff has only paraphrased what is well proven military doctrine. Proven even in military principles taugh 2000 years before North America was discovered. Principles that justify war include 1) the smoking gun, and 2) a well defined strategic objective. Neither existed in Nam. Neither exist in "Mission Accomplished".

A population that learned from history would - well, how few were noting these realities in 2002? How many, instead, blindly believed a president who (according to the mental midget) only talked to god and Cheney? Where is this intelligence that justifies "Mission Accomplished"?


Diaphone Jim  Tuesday Jun 10 06:19 PM

xoB always has food for thought.
Besides the Union Square "office" ship, seen finished and colorized here:
http://www.brown.edu/Facilities/Univ...ion_square.GIF

There was another wooden USS Recruit, a large scale mock-up at the San Diego Naval Training Station built after WWII and referred to as the USS Neversail.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Recruit

And a real USS Recruit, a Admirable-Class Minesweeper built in 1943 with a short, sort of strange service in the Pacific:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Recruit_(AM-285)



TheMercenary  Tuesday Jun 10 07:26 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by tw View Post
Griff has only paraphrased what is well proven military doctrine. Proven even in military principles taugh 2000 years before North America was discovered. Principles that justify war include 1) the smoking gun, and 2) a well defined strategic objective. Neither existed in Nam. Neither exist in "Mission Accomplished".

A population that learned from history would - well, how few were noting these realities in 2002? How many, instead, blindly believed a president who (according to the mental midget) only talked to god and Cheney? Where is this intelligence that justifies "Mission Accomplished"?
Remind us again how many years you served, when and where? Thanks.


Big Sarge  Wednesday Jun 11 02:52 AM

As for me, I joined in 1979, but I have a break in service. I am currently deployed & yes this isn't my first time to "see the elephant". LOL. How many of you are old enough to remember that phrase?

I didn't mean to stir the pot. Everybody has their own opinion. I personally believe we are doing the right thing in Iraq. No matter what the media portrays, I know the majority of Iraqis are quite grateful.

It isn't any skin off my teeth if you don't agree. Lord, that's why my troops & I serve - to give you the freedom of choice.

Sorry folks



xoxoxoBruce  Wednesday Jun 11 02:58 AM

Don't be sorry Sarge, you done good.
Personally, I don't think you should have been sent there at all, but that doesn't detract from the difficult, thankless, job you've done.



Griff  Wednesday Jun 11 06:26 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Sarge View Post
As for me, I joined in 1979, but I have a break in service. I am currently deployed & yes this isn't my first time to "see the elephant". LOL. How many of you are old enough to remember that phrase?

I didn't mean to stir the pot. Everybody has their own opinion. I personally believe we are doing the right thing in Iraq. No matter what the media portrays, I know the majority of Iraqis are quite grateful.

It isn't any skin off my teeth if you don't agree. Lord, that's why my troops & I serve - to give you the freedom of choice.

Sorry folks
It's all good, speaking your mind is what the Cellar is all about. We're gonna disagree about whether overseas deployments support or subvert American values but that doesn't mean we can't argue about football too.


spudcon  Thursday Jun 12 11:04 AM

Yeah! Football sucks!:p



Big Sarge  Thursday Jun 12 02:24 PM

WTF!!! You say Football sucks? What type of sick person are you????

spudcon - Just kiddin' you



Sundae  Thursday Jun 12 03:49 PM

Anerican football does indeed suck like a starving whore :p
The real football however... it sucketh not.



Shawnee123  Thursday Jun 12 06:23 PM

Them's fightin' woids, gurl!



spudcon  Friday Jun 13 12:33 AM

Got 'em all stirred up, didn't I?



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