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   SPUCK  Tuesday Aug 25 04:19 AM

Aug 25, 2009: Out of the fire.

Here we have Hiroshima after that fateful day in August 1945.









Out of the ashes today.







To me, a beautiful piece of eye candy now.



capnhowdy  Tuesday Aug 25 07:49 AM

Mankind's survival skills at their finest. I can't help but wonder what Hiroshima would look like today if it had never been bombed. Most likely just another rundown, dirty city.



Spexxvet  Tuesday Aug 25 09:16 AM

I wish all American cities would get atom bombed so they can look like that in 64 years.



Tawny  Tuesday Aug 25 10:37 AM

It's clear we did them a huge favor.



glatt  Tuesday Aug 25 10:43 AM

The real test is to look at the other Japanese cities that weren't bombed.

I've never been to Japan, but my understanding is they all look pretty much like this.

That means the bombing had little to do with it.



xoxoxoBruce  Tuesday Aug 25 11:25 AM

We taught them a lesson... called Urban Renewal.



newtimer  Tuesday Aug 25 12:54 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by glatt View Post
... they all look pretty much like this.
Except all of those other cities (except for Nagasaki) have power plants. Hiroshima doesn't need one because all of the fluorescent lights there tend to glow all by themselves.


jpc  Tuesday Aug 25 01:52 PM

The deaths due to the urban renewal (then as well as now), not really a problem.
But if you did it right, spread the seasonings first, then, would it be just one big pot pie?



randomidea  Tuesday Aug 25 04:45 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by glatt View Post
I've never been to Japan, but my understanding is they all look pretty much like this.
The funny thing is that these shiny neon city pictures aren't even Hiroshima, they're clearly recognizable as the Yokohama skyline. Hiroshima is a lovely city, and ground zero is now a very nice park, but the city is much smaller and more sedate than the pictures above.



Photo by bht on Flickr.

Anyhow, having visited Hiroshima and spoken to people who were there when the bomb dropped, I'm pretty certain that they would much prefer to live in a "rundown, dirty city" that hadn't been nuked.


ZenGum  Tuesday Aug 25 10:43 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by glatt View Post
The real test is to look at the other Japanese cities that weren't bombed.

I've never been to Japan, but my understanding is they all look pretty much like this.

That means the bombing had little to do with it.
Well, most other cities weren't nuked, but EVERY significant city in Japan except Kyoto was bombed to buggery and totally flattened. Well, that is not absolutely true, but about 98% true. The conventional bombing campaign went on for months, and killed far more people than the nukes did.

Tokyo, Osaka, Nagoya, I could mention others I went to; almost every single "historical" building is a ferro-concrete post-war reconstruction.

The reason modern Japanese cities all look modern is because they were all rebuilt after the war.


Kyoto was super lucky. It had very little of military significance. It was known to have hundreds of amazing historical temples and shrines. But it's luckiest break, according to stories I heard while in Japan, was that the USAF officer in charge of selecting bombing targets had been to Japan and even spent his honeymoon with his wife in Kyoto, and his wife kept nagging him to not bomb kyoto.

Lucky break, it is an amazing and beautiful city and about half of it is now UNESCO world heritage listed.


SPUCK  Wednesday Aug 26 05:50 AM

jpc; LOL. Welcome to the cellar.

randomidea; You're totally right!! The rotten liars. (must check facts more, must check facts more)

What's even funnier is that I spent an hour checking your clarification out by pouring over Google Maps trying to line up something in those shots that matched. I finally found the ferris wheel. Only to THEN notice your "skyline link".



capnhowdy  Wednesday Aug 26 08:05 AM

Welcome to the Cellar, randomidea.....

Great eye you have there!



Gravdigr  Wednesday Aug 26 05:06 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by jpc View Post
...spread the seasonings first...


Welcome BTW.


jpc  Wednesday Aug 26 07:20 PM

I have been lurking for many years and when I saw this thread and no one was trying to eat it yet, I had to be the first.



Spexxvet  Wednesday Aug 26 07:29 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by jpc View Post
I have been lurking for many years and when I saw this thread and no one was trying to eat it yet, I had to be the first.



ZenGum  Wednesday Aug 26 08:42 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by jpc View Post
I have been lurking for many years and when I saw this thread and no one was trying to eat it yet, I had to be the first.
Yeah, but, if you're eating Japanes, shouldn't it be raw, sashimi-style?

None of this western style cooking, if you please.


jpc  Thursday Aug 27 11:55 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenGum View Post
Yeah, but, if you're eating Japanes, shouldn't it be raw, sashimi-style?

None of this western style cooking, if you please.

Not for me. I'm from the Republic of Texas and we don't eat foreign food.


BrianR  Sunday Aug 30 10:54 AM

then explain why El Paso has more Chinese restaurants than China?
And very few actual Chinese.



SPUCK  Monday Aug 31 06:18 AM

Yes.. But each and every restaurant table DOES have Tabasco Sauce on it.



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