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   xoxoxoBruce  Thursday Oct 1 12:58 AM

Oct 1, 2009: Goth or Not?

The two daughters of Spain's Prime Minister, are they Goth or not?

Quote:
Here's Barack and Michelle Obama with Spanish Prime Minister José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero and his family. The State Department uploaded it to Flickr. (What an unlikely sentence!) Whoops—no one in Spain has ever seen Zapatero's Goth daughters before!
I seriously doubt no one has ever seen them.



Quote:
According to Zapatero, Spanish law allows him to prevent the Spanish media from running any photographs of his 16 and 13-year-old daughters Laura and Alba. For their privacy, see. And because maybe it would be considered weird for the PM to have goth daughters, but it totally shouldn't be. It is a natural part of life, becoming a teenaged goth.
But are they really Goth? I mean mom and Dad are wearing black, and it is an official state function. OK, the one on the right has black nail polish and eye makeup, but does that make her Goth? What do you think?

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lumberjim  Thursday Oct 1 01:02 AM

creepy



Ibby  Thursday Oct 1 01:24 AM

the one on the right is. the boots give it away. she's definitely at least aesthetically goth. The bracelets on the blonde one seem to imply that she might be but one can't tell if she is or not just from this.



classicman  Thursday Oct 1 01:33 AM

Yes.



Crimson Ghost  Thursday Oct 1 03:04 AM

Yup.
And they've perfected the whole "Children Of The Corn"/ 'we want to eat your brains' stare.

Is it just me, or does Obama look like a wax statue in this pic?



SPUCK  Thursday Oct 1 05:17 AM

LOL!! I think they're Goth but they also look like they might be fun people.

Dang, Bruce where'd you find that picture? I looked all over for it the instant I heard it was "yanked". All I could find was the X'd out one.



Sundae  Thursday Oct 1 06:51 AM

Definitely goth - not that there's anything wrong with that.
And after all they are nice young girls, happily posing with Daddy's work colleagues and even smiling!

Let's just hope their friends don't ostracise them because of it



Pie  Thursday Oct 1 08:50 AM

It's just a phase.



Trilby  Thursday Oct 1 08:57 AM

Yeah, that's Goth and its evil twin Bad Posture.



spudcon  Thursday Oct 1 09:06 AM

The brunette's makeup is no different than the "mod" look of the sixties. The clothes, however, are from the Witch Trials of past centuries..



Shawnee123  Thursday Oct 1 09:07 AM

I'm bad at geography: where is Spain in relation to Transylvania again?




Spexxvet  Thursday Oct 1 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 View Post
I'm bad at geography: where is Spain in relation to Transylvania again?

Yeah, that's what I was thinking...
"Spanish Prime Minister José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero was overheard saying to Mrs. Obama "I vant to suck yoooor blooooood". With Dracula as your father, how could they not be goth?


Shawnee123  Thursday Oct 1 09:25 AM

And, with how popular the wampires are these days...



classicman  Thursday Oct 1 09:44 AM

I keep hearing the Munsters theme song in my head every time I look at them.



Spexxvet  Thursday Oct 1 09:52 AM

I have to say that Michelle Obama looks particularly ravishing in the burlap bag, tastefully cinched around her waist.



classicman  Thursday Oct 1 09:59 AM

...with the finest imported Spanish twine available.



dar512  Thursday Oct 1 10:01 AM

You can tell it's high fashion. Because no one who isn't regularly in People magazine would wear the thing.



birdclaw  Thursday Oct 1 10:08 AM

Yikes! The blondish one definitely looks like she is planning something sinister.



Shawnee123  Thursday Oct 1 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by birdclaw View Post
Yikes! The blondish one definitely looks like she is planning something sinister.
Well YEAH...she's a wampire too. A wampire with a dye job, but a wampire all the same.


Tawny  Thursday Oct 1 10:28 AM

What's with these bad parents? My mother would have smacked me upside the head for such slouching.



Shawnee123  Thursday Oct 1 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Tawny View Post
What's with these bad parents? My mother would have smacked me upside the head for such slouching.
"And pick up your feet!" Mom hated shuffling along. I see myself noticing those things too!


Sheldonrs  Thursday Oct 1 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet View Post
I have to say that Michelle Obama looks particularly ravishing in the burlap bag, tastefully cinched around her waist.
Looks more like a StarTrek outfit to me.


Shawnee123  Thursday Oct 1 10:42 AM

It really is ugly. Is it supposed to be in keeping with the bag lady vampire motif?



Madman  Thursday Oct 1 11:18 AM

The one of the right reminds me an old recurring nightmare. Only thing missing are the Cat-O-Nine-Tails and the spiked cage.

Those eyes... and that red striped tie.



monster  Thursday Oct 1 11:33 AM

No, it's a Goth Fail. they are both clearly attempting to smile.



capnhowdy  Thursday Oct 1 12:35 PM

Goth , yes. One for real and one trainee.

No question about the PM's wife being bowlegged though.



monster  Thursday Oct 1 12:44 PM

All four of those women could use some fashion advice (this from a former goth currently wearing Walmart in black)



monster  Thursday Oct 1 12:46 PM

beest and I still both wear all black all the time (except for beest's work shirts) -it's a hard habit to break even when you're old and purple.


hmmm this was supposed to be an addition to the first comment. No wonder I'm hurtling toeards the 10K club



dar512  Thursday Oct 1 12:47 PM

Well, black does go with just about anything.



TheDaVinciChode  Thursday Oct 1 01:12 PM

I'm more concerned about the whole picture, than just the two young girls.

... Is it just me, or do they ALL look rather odd? There's something... sinister, about the whole thing.

Obama reminds me of The House Of Wax, also; Just as Crimson Ghost suggested.



Clodfobble  Thursday Oct 1 01:16 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brianna
Yeah, that's Goth and its evil twin Bad Posture.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tawny
What's with these bad parents? My mother would have smacked me upside the head for such slouching.
I was reading elsewhere that both the daughters actually have a genetic deformity--they're not slouching, they're genuine hunchbacks. That's why the PM has never allowed photos to be published in the media, because of the endless mockery they would receive.


Shawnee123  Thursday Oct 1 01:21 PM

OMG are you serious?

Are you pulling our collective leg?



Pooka  Thursday Oct 1 01:25 PM

It does seem that the whole lot of them are dressed for Halloween... and I think michelle Obama has on Quasimodo's tunic... speaking of hunchbacks...



Clodfobble  Thursday Oct 1 01:50 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shawnee123
OMG are you serious?

Are you pulling our collective leg?
It was posted as fact where I was reading about it. Can't say for sure, but that site had another shot where you could see one from the side in the background, and it was a lot more obvious.


Shawnee123  Thursday Oct 1 02:01 PM

Oh my. Now I have to feel badly about the jokes!



Shawnee123  Thursday Oct 1 02:22 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pooka View Post
It does seem that the whole lot of them are dressed for Halloween... and I think michelle Obama has on Quasimodo's tunic... speaking of hunchbacks...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Clodfobble View Post
It was posted as fact where I was reading about it. Can't say for sure, but that site had another shot where you could see one from the side in the background, and it was a lot more obvious.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shawnee123 View Post
Oh my. Now I have to feel badly about the jokes!
I knew her face rang a bell!

(OK, not too badly...)




Trilby  Thursday Oct 1 02:27 PM

Well. Don't I feel like an ass.



Cloud  Thursday Oct 1 02:29 PM

yes. good for them!



treehugger  Thursday Oct 1 06:41 PM

I'm surprised they even had the photo taken!



Sperlock  Thursday Oct 1 10:00 PM

The Prime Minister kind of reminds me of the Devil from the television show Reaper. But I'm sure it's just me.



xoxoxoBruce  Friday Oct 2 12:54 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by treehugger View Post
I'm surprised they even had the photo taken!
Welcome to the Cellar, treehugger.

I glad the PM, and his Mrs, include the girls in their official doings. They probably weren't aware the US state dept would post them on Flickr. But wtf, they're nothing to be embarrassed about... at least any more than any other teenage girls embarrass their parents.


Crimson Ghost  Friday Oct 2 01:29 AM

All in all, I had no idea Ann and Nancy Wilson were Spanish.

And did someone photoshop a gremlin head onto the PM's wife's body?
What the fuck is going on there?



spudcon  Friday Oct 2 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Crimson Ghost View Post
All in all, I had no idea Ann and Nancy Wilson were Spanish.

And did someone photoshop a gremlin head onto the PM's wife's body?
What the fuck is going on there?
You're right CG. With my special de-photoshop program, I can display the real picture!


barefoot serpent  Friday Oct 2 10:09 AM

Where was I when David Bowie became president of Spain?



TheDaVinciChode  Friday Oct 2 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by spudcon View Post
You're right CG. With my special de-photoshop program, I can display the real picture!
I am amazed at how fitting that picture appears.

The Obamas switch bodies quite nicely, and the Spanish PM's wife's head is far better suited to a male's physique... Not too sure on the Spanish PM, himself, though.

Perhaps you should download an upgrade to your de-photoshop program, as I'm sure there's still some hidden context, within that photo, that we're not seeing...

Horns on his (Spanish PM's) head, a tail... and his two daughters must've been altered, with photoshop, to hide their one big, bulbous eye, slacked jaw, etc... Quasimodo's daughters cannot hide from us!


Gravdigr  Friday Oct 2 05:23 PM

Formal goth.

And, I lost my hump on 9/11, you insensitive bastards!



Tawny  Friday Oct 2 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble View Post
I was reading elsewhere that both the daughters actually have a genetic deformity--they're not slouching, they're genuine hunchbacks. That's why the PM has never allowed photos to be published in the media, because of the endless mockery they would receive.
*cough* BULLSHIT *cough*


monster  Friday Oct 2 10:34 PM

I agree with Chode, they look much better in your deshopped original, spud.

Yup I'm inclined to agree, Tawny, I couldn't find any articles supporting that.



Clodfobble  Friday Oct 2 10:47 PM

Meh, I couldn't find it again. Mockery may resume.



monster  Friday Oct 2 10:49 PM

it's possible that the thing you read was a fraud and forced to be removed... maybe?



Clodfobble  Friday Oct 2 10:56 PM

Are you suggesting someone removed a lie from the internet on moral grounds?



monster  Friday Oct 2 10:59 PM

oh hell no! it probably contained a picture copyrighted to someone else.



Crimson Ghost  Saturday Oct 3 01:47 AM

Still, that photo will make you check under the bed before going to sleep.....



spudcon  Saturday Oct 3 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by monster View Post
I agree with Chode, they look much better in your deshopped original, spud.
Okay, I got the latest software update, and it appears that Chode was right. Here's what they look like with all shopping removed.


Crimson Ghost  Saturday Oct 3 01:50 AM

The sad thing is that Alfred's head looks better than her own head.



Sundae  Saturday Oct 3 08:38 AM

I think the whole hunchbacked thing is a lie.
They were protected from the media in Spain because Spain has its own terrorism, their father wanted them to have a normal life and because it is routine in Spain not to include familes in political life. No photo of a child, papparazi'd or studio posed can be printed in Spanish media without parental permission.

They'd be as safe as anyone else getting on a train or a bus if their faces weren't instantly recognisable. There's a good chance that if they live in Madrid they'll be happier with a low-key existence.

Theses points seem to have been overlooked because 1) When's the last time Obama's kids got on the bus; 2) When's the last time public transport in America was blown up? 3) The free press in America has no such boundaries.

I think it was someone putting 2 + 2 together and making 5.



TheDaVinciChode  Saturday Oct 3 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by spudcon View Post
Okay, I got the latest software update, and it appears that Chode was right. Here's what they look like with all shopping removed.
I can't help but notice, that, in each of your de-photoshop'd pictures...

The girls remain the same.

Is that a testament to their beauty, or the hideous nature of their very existence?


spudcon  Saturday Oct 3 07:28 PM

Neither. I try not to rag on the kids of famous people unless they seek publicity or do something infamous themselves.(Kennedys for example.) The girls can't choose their parents, or their parents' choices. I never picked on Chelsea Clinton, even tho I had nothing but contempt for her parents.



richlevy  Sunday Oct 4 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Crimson Ghost View Post
The sad thing is that Alfred's head looks better than her own head.
Alfred? You mean that wasn't GWB?


spudcon  Sunday Oct 4 03:26 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by richlevy View Post
Alfred? You mean that wasn't GWB?
Nope, it was BO


Tawny  Sunday Oct 4 08:21 PM

I'll bet these two girls are allowed to get away with all kinds of heinous things, like sitting with their legs spread, chewing with their mouths open, talking without being spoken to first and addressing their parents as Jose and Sonsoles.

Shameful.



Crimson Ghost  Monday Oct 5 04:11 AM

Or being chased by villagers carrying pitchforks and torches...



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