9/15/2002: Peugeot "fire car"

Here Peugeot announces a fire-fighting CAR called the "H20". It is all-electric, running on hydrogen fuel cells. The hydrogen is made by the car. That means it needs oxygen too, so it either gets it from the air or uses a spare tank if the air conditions are too smoky. I gather that's the point of the vehicle.

Its auxiliary power unit can run pumps and communications gear.



I'm not sure I get why you'd permanently mount a teeny ladder to the roof. If you want to have something permanently attached, you could make it taller because the car would provide the ballast.

But this is a concept car and there will be some time to work out the bugs if it goes into production.

Re: 9/15/2002: Peugeot "fire car"

Fuel cells

I think the second fire car is more feasible.

Perhaps when they refer to it producing its own fuel, they mean that it reuses the same water in a closed system. Perhaps you plug it in like a normal electric car to split it up into O and H?
Then it fills its tanks and is "charged".

Or this could be a silly imaginary thing.

Finally, I know that others said this before but I have to say it again:

What is the point of carrying around a 2 meter ladder?

Ever hear a peugeot diesel start on a cold winter morning? souds like it's going to throw a rod! (eventually they do.)

Re: Fuel cells

...Jane his wife!....

Now that I look at it again, I think it looks like an autoclave.

Your comment on conceprt cars being non-functional is true.

this is why I love the honda insight and the buell X9BR.
They make wacky things and then just sell them to us.

If this is serious, then its real value is the ability to arrive quickly, and operate right up next to a burning building. Get the doors under control, and the people out. The short ladder and low-oxygen ability seem to confirm this. The rubber tires, on the other hand, don't.

I also wonder if a fuel-cell engine has the power needed to move this thing. Couple hundred gallons of water ain't light, and pumping water through a hose likely takes some HP. Though its up-close ability means it doesn't have to pump very far.

Nate

I bet under all of that silly exterior, you will find a standard golf cart chassis.

That is if it moves at all.

An interesting thread going here, but one question eludes.

Now, granted I don't know the specs of this car, I don't know what kind of materials and such are going into it. However, I have to ask:

Does anyone else sees a problem with driving a hydrogen-powered car to a fire-besought building? And if not...why?

~mike

uh, i know nothing about hydrogen vs. gasoline, but to me it seems no worse than driving a gasoline powered vehicle to a fire-besought building.

oh, and peugeot kicks ass. i dont care what anyone says, i want one.

~james

Hydrogen: not just for breakfast anymore

You can't really compare the Hindenburg with the "rescue Le Car"

I would presume that it would not be storing its fuel in rubberized canvas bladders at one atmosphere.

I doubt that the car would release any of its oxygen or hydrogen unles it was crushed or shot.

Imagine the fireworks if someone were to "compromise" the tanks! The Hidenburg didn't carry around pure Oxygen. The Hindenburg just burned with the atmospheric oxygen which is about %23 I think.

If you had a balloon filled with a perfect mix of Oxygen and Hydrogen and that was ignighted, it would explode rather than just burn very quickly.