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   Undertoad  Friday Sep 20 10:46 AM

9/20/2002: Stray dogs



No, it's not a sad shot. These dogs are unconscious, not dead. They're stray dogs in Bangkok, and vets have given them all vasectomies. It's an attempt to lower the number of stray dogs - while letting the current strays maintain their swinging lifestyle, I suppose.

It's weird that they're sterilizing them without neutering them. Maybe that's just quicker and they don't have to recover? Maybe they want the dogs to remain sexually active but sterile? I don't know.



BubbleSculptor  Friday Sep 20 02:02 PM

By sterilizing them and placing them back into the 'stray scene', these dogs will be able to compete for mates along with the non-sterile dogs. That could possibly reduce the number of females giving birth because they won't get pregnant. However, if they neutered the dogs, then they wouldn't persue the females, resulting in only non-neutered dogs getting them. If the population of sterile male dogs gets larger than the non-sterile dogs, it could gradually reduce the total number of dogs.

Actually, I'm most surprised at the fact that in Bangkok they are taking the time to sterilize them and not just kill them.



Nic Name  Friday Sep 20 04:19 PM

What can I say?




Nic Name  Friday Sep 20 04:29 PM

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Actually, I'm most surprised at the fact that in Bangkok they are taking the time to sterilize them and not just kill them.
Thais prove dogs' best friends
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However, culling the dogs - usual practice in other countries - is unpopular in Thailand. Buddhist doctrine forbids cruelty to animals, and many Thais are very fond of dogs.
Anti Dog Meat Movement Headquarters
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In Taiwan(02/01/2001) and Thailand (10/07/2000), commercial dog slaughtering was prohibited by law. But Korean Government do not listen attentively to animal lover's sorrow.



Bitman  Friday Sep 20 09:40 PM

Was it really necessary to lay them out nose-to-ass? I know dogs generally dig that, but what about the ones that don't wanna smell fart for the rest of the day?



xant  Saturday Sep 21 06:43 AM

Well, I'm not dogologist, but...

Quote:
Originally posted by BubbleSculptor
By sterilizing them and placing them back into the 'stray scene', these dogs will be able to compete for mates along with the non-sterile dogs [...]
As an owner and an observer of dogs, this explanation seems a little unlikely to me. Dogs mate with everything: male dogs, female dogs, peoples' legs, lampposts, they don't care. The only thing stopping a female dog from getting pregnant in the future is being pregnant now—a condition vasectomized dogs are incapable of causing, regardless of whether they keep trying.

I have no alternative hypothesis, unless you count: "Maybe they're just trying to be nice to the little male doggies."


Nic Name  Saturday Sep 21 10:06 AM

It's a "catch and release" program, so they are probably concerned about recovery time and procedural efficiency. I'm not sure that vascectomy is any more difficult for these vets than castration. It's probably easier and requires less aftercare by the vet.

Even if BS were to argue that, in addition to pregnancy, a bitch is prevented from mating with a fertile dog whilst a sterilized dog is mating ... that only takes less than an hour and she's ready to take on all comers immediately thereafter. The first dog doesn't compete with the next potential mate after intercourse. And the bitch is receptive during estrus to mate with all the dogs in the pack.

As male dogs are motivated to mate by the scent of the bitch in heat, it is known that even neutered males will mate with bitches in season.



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