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   xoxoxoBruce  Wednesday Mar 24 06:08 AM

Mar 24, 2010: Plastiki

Back in 1947, Thor Heyerdahl & friends, built a boat from reeds called Kon-Tiki, and proved the Pacific could be navigated with primitive craft.
Flash forward to 2010.
A bunch of hippies, including an Olev Heyerdahl, have set sail from San Francisco headed for Sydney, on a super hi-tech plastic boat called the Plastiki.



Far from a reed raft, the Plastiki is a super sophisticated craft with all the electronic bells & whistles. Electricity comes from solar panels, wind turbines, trailing water turbines, and stationary bike driven generators. The solar desalinization unit produces 12 liters an hour, and they even have a mini-greenhouse to grow fresh greens.

Supposedly this hi-tech, corporate sponsored, mucho-money, expedition, is to call attention to plastic recycling, the polluted Pacific, renewable energy, yada yada yada. But I think they just wanted to have fun.

Of course, no matter how hi-tech the craft, the Pacific can swallow it in a heartbeat.

You can check out the details, and follow the voyage, here.



capnhowdy  Wednesday Mar 24 07:24 AM

I've always wanted to build a unique watercraft. And I will. Just not today.



spudcon  Wednesday Mar 24 08:53 AM

Thar be pirate ships on the horizon. I'll bet they're after their brocolli!



rditlkustoleit  Wednesday Mar 24 11:00 AM

WOW!?
Boat loads of money, time and technology spent on replicating that which was created and accomplished 63 years ago

We love making that which is simple, absurdly complex, then wave a hot button pc flag and call it achievement.



glatt  Wednesday Mar 24 11:08 AM

I think it's cool what they are doing. Just because mankind has explored the world, doesn't mean we should all sit at home watching tv now.

It's interesting to me that they are so self contained. The solar/wind powered water maker, and the greenhouse for growing food are both remarkable. Making the thing out of recycled plastics is also cool. None of those things are new inventions, but combining them all into this boat is unusual and cool. It shows what some possibilities are and may lead others to come up with additional ideas. Plus, some people like to sail. It's fun. What's wrong with that?



Spexxvet  Wednesday Mar 24 01:05 PM

It reminds me of




LittleWolf  Wednesday Mar 24 01:49 PM

It sounds like a great vessel, with all the self-sustaining technology and craft, but what I never understand is how it is supposedly done to bring forth awareness.

With the money that went into building it, I'm sure a couple programs would've been financed towards cleaning the Pacific or the Atlantic plastic mire.



Shawnee123  Wednesday Mar 24 02:04 PM

If you use money that could have built one boat, you have enough money to clean up some pollution, your efforts equal to the cost of one boat.

If you use money to build the boat, you might raise enough awareness to get more contributions than just equal to the cost of one boat.

We never would have heard about the buck-fitty (relatively speaking when considering the vastness of the ocean) worth of ocean pollution that was cleaned up.

@ spexx: is that Waterworld?



Spexxvet  Wednesday Mar 24 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123 View Post
@ spexx: is that Waterworld?
Yup


rditlkustoleit  Wednesday Mar 24 04:11 PM

I don't begrudge Olev and his friends their toys, interests or lifestyle. Just call it what it is and don't try and attach some higher intent or purpose to it.

We don't need to be more "aware" or "informed", we are in excess of both. I'd be much more impressed if they were cleaning up some of the plastic along the way.

A great deal of our "awareness", including the Pacific trash, is not brought to our attention by grand gestures, campaigning or the like. It's typically your "average" person just doing their job or actively working to create change that starts the chain of awareness.

From my perspective, giving credit to those who spend a lot of time and money to build a boat under the guise of "bringing awareness" is getting caught up in the "thick of thin things".

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Shawnee123  Wednesday Mar 24 04:28 PM

Tell me a story. Tell me a story about some guys who went along in a little boat and picked up some milk containers. Tell me. What do you mean, you've never heard any?



Sundae  Wednesday Mar 24 05:03 PM

Meh - plenty of people build things, float things, publicise things. I say if they are also sampling new technology and bringing the green agenda to websites like this, good on them.

After all, if they weren't, plenty of places (not here) would be moaning about the environmental impact blah blah blah. Personally I'm surprised Formula One is still going... Not that it would break my heart if it stopped - Dads and I only watch the first 15 mins for crashes



Gravdigr  Wednesday Mar 24 07:24 PM

Me no swim. Me no want.



capnhowdy  Wednesday Mar 24 08:36 PM

I'll take the $$... keep the fucking boat.



monster  Wednesday Mar 24 10:16 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by rditlkustoleit View Post
I don't begrudge Olev and his friends their toys, interests or lifestyle. Just call it what it is and don't try and attach some higher intent or purpose to it.

We don't need to be more "aware" or "informed", we are in excess of both. I'd be much more impressed if they were cleaning up some of the plastic along the way.

A great deal of our "awareness", including the Pacific trash, is not brought to our attention by grand gestures, campaigning or the like. It's typically your "average" person just doing their job or actively working to create change that starts the chain of awareness.

From my perspective, giving credit to those who spend a lot of time and money to build a boat under the guise of "bringing awareness" is getting caught up in the "thick of thin things".

__________________
If we're not supposed to eat animals, why are they made out of meat?!

Hmmm. How interested would we all be about someone who set out in a regular boat and brought back a few trashbags of junk from the pacific? Would it even make image of the day? Or Digg, or reddit or whatever?

The serious money for serious clean up projects does not come from individuals but from companies. Companies who want recognition. They're going to put their money through the projects that are getting publicity. THEN it can be used to actually do the clean-up work. That's what is meant by awareness.

What have you personally done for this cause? Anything? No, thought not.


monster  Wednesday Mar 24 10:17 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by capnhowdy View Post
I'll take the $$... keep the fucking boat.
It fucks too? Now i'm interested!


xoxoxoBruce  Wednesday Mar 24 10:25 PM

Sorry monster, it's on it's way to Aussieland.



SPUCK  Thursday Mar 25 06:10 AM

It has no engine and its flotation is from capped soda bottles.

Funny thing is it got all the media hyped up for departure and since it's very s l o w and the wind was light, they had to have a petroleum powered dingy tow them out of SF bay to start their journey.. It only seems to make about 4 knots.



glatt  Thursday Mar 25 08:31 AM

Well, it's designed to only sail down wind. It has no keel, so it can't tack against the wind. Maneuvering around the bay under sail power would have been difficult.



Adak  Thursday Mar 25 09:02 AM

No keel - I get that. Catamaran's don't usually have one. But why no centerboard? You could easily make one out of plastic, and it would add a LOT to the craft.

It has a small bio diesel engine, for emergencies, but I was looking at it's speed earlier this morning - only 1.4 knots! Wait until they reach the equatorial doldrums.


Wind in SF Bay is always out of the West, unless the Summer inversion is over Nevada & Colorado.

We should send them the pics from our IOTD Albatross chicks that died after eating plastic pieces. That was very dramatic.

They'll be heading to San Diego, first. They went out quite wide on that leg of the journey. Maybe they're afraid of getting smashed by a large vessel at night, if they stayed in the main shipping lanes. Can you even see their plastic boat on radar? Their info page doesn't say.

Maybe we can sell them a plastic centerboard and a radar reflector dish.



ZenGum  Thursday Mar 25 09:06 AM

Now that is what is wrong with San Francisco. Sure, make boats out of recycled containers, but ... soft drink bottles? Bah.

Darwin has it right.

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Gravdigr  Thursday Mar 25 05:37 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by monster View Post
What have you personally done for this cause? Anything? No, thought not.
No, being landlocked in Kentucky, cleaning up the ocean has not been high on my list of shit to do today. I do however help clean up the woods, forests, state parks, lake shores, farm ponds, parks, river banks, and the town square. So, there.


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