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   xoxoxoBruce  Thursday Aug 26 12:09 AM

Aug 26, 2010: Wood Sculpture

Randall Rosenthal sculptures wood.
It's not whittling, it's a little like carving, but like nothing you've seen before.

This is made from one piece of wood... even the rubber bans, and the box.



The price is $25,000, which isn't too bad considering what it takes to produce.

Look at how it's done...



Even if I had the patience to carve it, I couldn't do the painting.

His website with a lot more pictures.

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SPUCK  Thursday Aug 26 06:17 AM

Lets see.

Take a picture.
Pass the resulting jpeg to the CAM software.
Send the resulting G-Code to the router.
Put wood on the router table.
Press Start.
Go have a sandwich.


I do think it's cool. Much better than dead babies.



xoxoxoBruce  Thursday Aug 26 07:52 AM

That might work for getting a roughed out blank, but you'll still have weeks of carving ahead. Especially with wood, where things like those notebook rings tend to snap off.



glatt  Thursday Aug 26 08:15 AM

Yeah, the router will get you to picture one. Pictures 2, 3 and 4 require hand carving. Routers can't do thing like carve the ends of the scallions. They can't get underneath.

This guy is very talented.



ToastyOhs  Thursday Aug 26 09:45 AM

Imaging technology, CAM Software, computer driven routers... Defeated by scallions!



classicman  Thursday Aug 26 10:09 AM

Well right on his site it clearly says:

Quote:
All Work Hand Carved From One Block Of Wood And Hand Painted
Fantastic work.


squirell nutkin  Thursday Aug 26 10:10 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by ToastyOhs View Post
Imaging technology, CAM Software, computer driven routers... Defeated by scallions!
"Who are your gods now?"


Shawnee123  Thursday Aug 26 10:36 AM




glatt  Thursday Aug 26 10:39 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by classicman View Post
Well right on his site it clearly says:
Quote:
All Work Hand Carved From One Block Of Wood And Hand Painted
Fantastic work.
I saw that too, but to get to the first picture, he clearly used a router, and probably used a band saw. The rest was by hand, but he used power tools too. Nothing wrong with that.


spudcon  Thursday Aug 26 10:52 AM

Thanx Shawnee. Your onions video made my morning. It is sooo deep and meaningful.



jinx  Thursday Aug 26 11:02 AM

Quote:
The price is $25,000, which isn't too bad considering what it takes to produce.
But it looks like clutter. Who spends thousands on clutter sculptures? I thinks he needs to come up with some better ideas...


Shawnee123  Thursday Aug 26 11:13 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by spudcon View Post
Thanx Shawnee. Your onions video made my morning. It is sooo deep and meaningful.


I remembered it from me and my brother's old Loony Tunes album, then found this info about it (anyone else have it?):

Q: Was Looney Tunes the name of the artist or the album? There was an album called "Looney Tunes" by the artist Telex released in 1988...In the 1970's "K-Tel" released an album called "Looney Tunes" as well. Do you know what the cover looked like or have any more information?

A:
1. Napoleon XIV - They're Coming To Take Me Away
2. The Coasters - Along Came Jones
3. Alan Sherman - Hello Mudduh Hello Faddah
4. The Rivingtons - Birds The Word
5. Ed Byrnes - Kookie Lend Me Your Comb
6. David Seville - Witch Doctor
7. Buzz Clifford - Baby Sittin Boogie
8. Nervous Norvus - Transfusion
9. Joe Perkins - Little Effin Annie
10. Lonnie Donegan - My Old Mans A Dustman
11. Charlie Drake - My Boomerang Won't Come Back
12. Ray Stevens - The Streak
13. Harv Norman - Rubber Duckie
14. Tiny Tim - Tiptoe Thru The Tulips
15. The Coasters - Charlie Brown
16. Nervous Norvus - Ape Call
17. The Hustlers - Shaving Cream
18. The Rivingtons - Papa Oom Mow Mow
19. Jumpin Gene Simmons - Haunted House
20. Sam the Sham And the Pharoahs - Little Red Riding Hood
21. Zacherle - Dinner With Drac
22. Susan Christie - I Love Onions
23. Ernie K. Doe - Mother In Law
24. The Chipmunks - The Chipmunk Song



classicman  Thursday Aug 26 11:25 AM

OH heck Jinx, People with $25k to blow on that will build a place to put it.



Happy Monkey  Thursday Aug 26 12:36 PM

You put it in the path of an obsessive clutter-remover, and wait.



glatt  Thursday Aug 26 12:40 PM

kind of like one of those nickels welded to a nail that you are supposed to pound into the floor.



spudcon  Thursday Aug 26 01:56 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shawnee123 View Post


I remembered it from me and my brother's old Loony Tunes album, then found this info about it (anyone else have it?):

Q: Was Looney Tunes the name of the artist or the album? There was an album called "Looney Tunes" by the artist Telex released in 1988...In the 1970's "K-Tel" released an album called "Looney Tunes" as well. Do you know what the cover looked like or have any more information?

A:
1. Napoleon XIV - They're Coming To Take Me Away
2. The Coasters - Along Came Jones
3. Alan Sherman - Hello Mudduh Hello Faddah
4. The Rivingtons - Birds The Word
5. Ed Byrnes - Kookie Lend Me Your Comb
6. David Seville - Witch Doctor
7. Buzz Clifford - Baby Sittin Boogie
8. Nervous Norvus - Transfusion
9. Joe Perkins - Little Effin Annie
10. Lonnie Donegan - My Old Mans A Dustman
11. Charlie Drake - My Boomerang Won't Come Back
12. Ray Stevens - The Streak
13. Harv Norman - Rubber Duckie
14. Tiny Tim - Tiptoe Thru The Tulips
15. The Coasters - Charlie Brown
16. Nervous Norvus - Ape Call
17. The Hustlers - Shaving Cream
18. The Rivingtons - Papa Oom Mow Mow
19. Jumpin Gene Simmons - Haunted House
20. Sam the Sham And the Pharoahs - Little Red Riding Hood
21. Zacherle - Dinner With Drac
22. Susan Christie - I Love Onions
23. Ernie K. Doe - Mother In Law
24. The Chipmunks - The Chipmunk Song
I had the Loony Tunes on an 8 track. When all my 8 tracks started coming apart at the splicing tape, I spliced them all together onto a reel to reel. Now all the reel tapes are breaking as fast as I can splice them.


spudcon  Thursday Aug 26 01:59 PM

My tape also had "Shaving Cream" and "My Boomerang Won't Come Back," and some others I don't remember.



Roosta  Thursday Aug 26 03:13 PM

It all depends on Randall's router budget...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnIvhlKT7SY



classicman  Thursday Aug 26 03:36 PM

Excellent video! Looks familiar somehow...



xoxoxoBruce  Thursday Aug 26 05:40 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Roosta View Post
It all depends on Randall's router budget...
That's not a router, but if he used a CNC 5-axis, the wood wouldn't hold together for that abuse. I know, I used to program them.


Roosta  Thursday Aug 26 05:47 PM

In hindsight, I should have thought harder about it having worked for a U.S. manufacturer of CNC Machining centres for the last 27 years.



xoxoxoBruce  Thursday Aug 26 05:53 PM

Then you could do the same in aluminum or phenolic, but you still have to paint them, which to me is harder. Actually for me, that's impossible.



Adak  Thursday Aug 26 05:58 PM

That 5 axis machine demo you linked to was *amazing*. The way the lower table moved at the same time the upper machine tool was moving - wow!

Beautiful helmet produced, also.

But for a laugh, click on the "most useless machine". Had me rolling at the impudent thing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z86V_ICUCD4





randall  Friday Oct 8 08:23 PM

hi ..i just found this site. heres the deal. i use a bunch of conventional shop power tools like a table saw and a router, and even hand held rotary tools. in my world that still falls under "hand made or hand carved." no cnc or computer cutting. actually three quarters of the work is done with a straight edge, a mat knife and a fishtail gauge.

in real life they look real from a few feet away but up close you can see they are wood. often the grain is visible or even a knot or two.

thanks for your interest.



BigV  Friday Oct 8 08:41 PM

Holy crabcakes Batman! It's the artist himself!

Welcome to the cellar, randall.

Your work is **amazing**.



xoxoxoBruce  Friday Oct 8 09:48 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by randall View Post
... i use a bunch of conventional shop power tools like a table saw and a router, and even hand held rotary tools. in my world that still falls under "hand made or hand carved."
In my world too. A good craftsman, or artist, always uses the best tools he can get his hands on, but the tools aren't doing the job, he is.
Welcome to the Cellar, randall, and thanks for filling us in with the inside dope.


classicman  Friday Oct 8 10:07 PM

Welcome sir, another fan here. Your work is nothing short of Amazing.



SPUCK  Saturday Oct 9 06:44 AM

So Randall, how did you find yourself doing this kind of work? A dare? An idea? A challenge?



randall  Saturday Oct 9 09:36 AM

i started out as a painter and did that till i was 40. then i worked as an architectural designer and the architect i worked with pushed me to do large instillation sculptures. i did that for ten years till i carved a book rest for a lectern that looked like a book............and here we are. thats the short version. look at the website it has lots of architectural work on it also.

thanks for the kind words.


http://www.randallrosenthal.com/



xoxoxoBruce  Saturday Oct 9 09:40 AM

Ah, that explains the incredible detail in the painting. I can see the wood working, with care and patience, but the painting just blows me away. Kudos.

EDIT
Hey, wait a minute... I take back what I said about the carving.
This is impossible. How could you do just this piece in one lifetime, let alone the others?




randall  Saturday Oct 9 03:02 PM

bruce...thats only a third of it. the actual railing is 24 feet long and follows a nine foot radius to form a half circle.it fits exactly between two walls. it took 6 months to carve and two weeks to install......its made from 3 solid glued up blocks of wood. one trick to what i do is everything is random.....so i can rough out fast and loose and make it up as i go along. only the last few steps are brain surgery.



xoxoxoBruce  Saturday Oct 9 04:43 PM

Holy shit, I'd love to see that. But I never get invited to houses that have that stuff... afraid I'll gnaw on it I guess.



Gravdigr  Sunday Oct 10 03:00 AM

Awesomeness.



SPUCK  Sunday Oct 10 06:38 AM

Wow..

I love your path to now.

Is this how you make your living?



casimendocina  Sunday Oct 10 07:08 AM

Wow!



randall  Sunday Oct 10 07:54 AM

my last reply didnt quite make it onto this thread but i'll give it another go.....yes, this is what i do for a living....not getting rich but no complaints. i'm much more interested in doing what i want with my life.



xoxoxoBruce  Sunday Oct 10 08:45 AM

I think that's a goal most people dream of, but few achieve, so plenty of people envy you that.



classicman  Sunday Oct 10 09:29 AM

put me on that list Bruce... Awesome Randall.



Griff  Sunday Oct 10 02:02 PM

That is just brilliant Randall, thank you for posting!



Undertoad  Sunday Oct 10 02:09 PM

Yes indeedy, this is the sort of thing that makes me want to make loads of money and commission a railing like that. It would be almost an honor to use it every day sir, what good work by you!



randall  Sunday Oct 10 02:54 PM

thanks !!......without people with the means to acquire what i do.....i would do a lot less of it. here is the first book carving....its the bookrest. a game changer for me. more fun less money. no regrets.



xoxoxoBruce  Sunday Oct 10 09:00 PM

The wealthy have always been patrons, the trick today is finding wealth and taste together. There are a lot of rich people with shit taste.

Is that book what got you started on the things we saw in my original post?



randall  Sunday Oct 10 10:24 PM

yes. the lectern is carved from one (glued up) block but the bible rest was separate. it really turned me on, crude as it was. it took a few years to really get it going with the book and then anything paper idea. no shortage of subject matter.



xoxoxoBruce  Monday Oct 11 02:35 AM

I can imagine the technique of getting the pages to look like leaves of paper, rather than a block with grooved edges, took a lot of trial and error.


btw, I uploaded that picture to our site, because the people that see IOtD in blog view can't always see linked photos.



SPUCK  Monday Oct 11 05:59 AM

Randall; How long does something like the Box'O'Money take you to do? And, do you find you sort of burn out on a project and set it down to work on another for a while, or do you just plow thru to completion?

BTW Thanks for taking the time to answer our questions - it's a delight.



randall  Monday Oct 11 09:12 AM

spuck....there aint much easier on earth than getting an artist to talk about his work....but thanks. the larger box of money "lunch money" took six weeks to carve and six weeks to paint. i never push it to far. if i get burned out i go do something else. i'm an avid surfer, snowboarder, and like to fish. i just try to keep it in balance so its always fun. as the project nears completion it gets to be more entertaining for for me. its pretty satisfying to go a long distance with no guarantee of success an then get there.



xoxoxoBruce  Monday Oct 11 01:51 PM

Randall, you're ruining the image of the tortured, recluse artist, snarling from behind closed curtains.



randall  Monday Oct 11 05:08 PM

if thats the image i ruined it completely. once someone told me

"it is impossible to be a good artist and a good athlete at the same time. so your art must suck".

i live in a 130 year old tool shed near the water on eastern long island. went fishing from the canoe today. i dont take my blessings for granted.



xoxoxoBruce  Monday Oct 11 07:36 PM

Fishing from a canoe, is definitely athletic... tough on the legs. Always the possibility of a Nantucket sleigh ride, too.



randall  Tuesday Oct 12 12:53 PM

the canoe is a battle ship compared to the kayak. i have had one real disaster and one great ride. there are guys here that swim out in the ocean at night with fins and a fishing rod.............



xoxoxoBruce  Tuesday Oct 12 01:23 PM

There are also guys that say, 'hold my beer and watch this', but I'm not doing that either.

How big are the wall sculptures of the leaves?



randall  Tuesday Oct 12 03:45 PM

they run in size from 2 foot by2 foot to one at merck pharma thats about 18 feet long. you can tell how big each is by the leaves...life size.



xoxoxoBruce  Tuesday Oct 12 06:01 PM

Life size, yeah, that's what I was wondering. You know, if you want a bunch of Oak leaves, it's easier to not cut the wood, and let mother nature use it to make a bunch of leaves while you're fishing.



randall  Tuesday Oct 12 06:25 PM

on another site a guy thought it would be better to just put a bunch of baseball cards in a box and call it a day. his comment "why bother"?



Undertoad  Tuesday Oct 12 06:40 PM

That's just ignorant. From the very beginning -- the cave drawings -- a big, central part of art is representing real life in other forms. What you choose to represent is the soul of the piece.



xoxoxoBruce  Tuesday Oct 12 08:49 PM

The baseball card guy isn't alone. The crowd that buy plastic tableaus from China, and velvet paintings on the street corner, may arguably be valuing a very, very, loose definition of art, but will never understand craft... ever. At least couple of generations have grown up never seeing anything made by hand, not even basic utilitarian items. Everything is store bought, without a clue as to how it's created. What Norm Abrams does on TV is just showbiz magic. Even if they take a class trip/vacation to someplace like Sturbridge or Williamsburg, the candle maker/blacksmith/furniture maker they see, are related to history. Completely disconnected from their lives. Sadly, fewer and fewer will experience the pleasure of creating something with their hands.



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