xoxoxoBruce Thursday Aug 26 12:09 AM
Aug 26, 2010: Wood Sculpture
Randall Rosenthal sculptures wood.
SPUCK Thursday Aug 26 06:17 AM
xoxoxoBruce Thursday Aug 26 07:52 AM
That might work for getting a roughed out blank, but you'll still have weeks of carving ahead. Especially with wood, where things like those notebook rings tend to snap off.
glatt Thursday Aug 26 08:15 AM
Yeah, the router will get you to picture one. Pictures 2, 3 and 4 require hand carving. Routers can't do thing like carve the ends of the scallions. They can't get underneath.
ToastyOhs Thursday Aug 26 09:45 AM
Imaging technology, CAM Software, computer driven routers... Defeated by scallions!
classicman Thursday Aug 26 10:09 AM
Well right on his site it clearly says:
squirell nutkin Thursday Aug 26 10:10 AM
Shawnee123 Thursday Aug 26 10:36 AM
glatt Thursday Aug 26 10:39 AM
spudcon Thursday Aug 26 10:52 AM
Thanx Shawnee. Your onions video made my morning. It is sooo deep and meaningful.
jinx Thursday Aug 26 11:02 AM
Shawnee123 Thursday Aug 26 11:13 AM
I remembered it from me and my brother's old Loony Tunes album, then found this info about it (anyone else have it?):
Q: Was Looney Tunes the name of the artist or the album? There was an album called "Looney Tunes" by the artist Telex released in 1988...In the 1970's "K-Tel" released an album called "Looney Tunes" as well. Do you know what the cover looked like or have any more information?
1. Napoleon XIV - They're Coming To Take Me Away
2. The Coasters - Along Came Jones
3. Alan Sherman - Hello Mudduh Hello Faddah
4. The Rivingtons - Birds The Word
5. Ed Byrnes - Kookie Lend Me Your Comb
6. David Seville - Witch Doctor
7. Buzz Clifford - Baby Sittin Boogie
8. Nervous Norvus - Transfusion
9. Joe Perkins - Little Effin Annie
10. Lonnie Donegan - My Old Mans A Dustman
11. Charlie Drake - My Boomerang Won't Come Back
12. Ray Stevens - The Streak
13. Harv Norman - Rubber Duckie
14. Tiny Tim - Tiptoe Thru The Tulips
15. The Coasters - Charlie Brown
16. Nervous Norvus - Ape Call
17. The Hustlers - Shaving Cream
18. The Rivingtons - Papa Oom Mow Mow
19. Jumpin Gene Simmons - Haunted House
20. Sam the Sham And the Pharoahs - Little Red Riding Hood
21. Zacherle - Dinner With Drac
22. Susan Christie - I Love Onions
23. Ernie K. Doe - Mother In Law
24. The Chipmunks - The Chipmunk Song
classicman Thursday Aug 26 11:25 AM
OH heck Jinx, People with $25k to blow on that will build a place to put it.
Happy Monkey Thursday Aug 26 12:36 PM
You put it in the path of an obsessive clutter-remover, and wait.
glatt Thursday Aug 26 12:40 PM
kind of like one of those nickels welded to a nail that you are supposed to pound into the floor.
spudcon Thursday Aug 26 01:56 PM
spudcon Thursday Aug 26 01:59 PM
My tape also had "Shaving Cream" and "My Boomerang Won't Come Back," and some others I don't remember.
Roosta Thursday Aug 26 03:13 PM
It all depends on Randall's router budget...
classicman Thursday Aug 26 03:36 PM
Excellent video! Looks familiar somehow...
xoxoxoBruce Thursday Aug 26 05:40 PM
Roosta Thursday Aug 26 05:47 PM
In hindsight, I should have thought harder about it having worked for a U.S. manufacturer of CNC Machining centres for the last 27 years.
xoxoxoBruce Thursday Aug 26 05:53 PM
Then you could do the same in aluminum or phenolic, but you still have to paint them, which to me is harder. Actually for me, that's impossible.
Adak Thursday Aug 26 05:58 PM
That 5 axis machine demo you linked to was *amazing*. The way the lower table moved at the same time the upper machine tool was moving - wow!
randall Friday Oct 8 08:23 PM
hi ..i just found this site. heres the deal. i use a bunch of conventional shop power tools like a table saw and a router, and even hand held rotary tools. in my world that still falls under "hand made or hand carved." no cnc or computer cutting. actually three quarters of the work is done with a straight edge, a mat knife and a fishtail gauge.
BigV Friday Oct 8 08:41 PM
Holy crabcakes Batman! It's the artist himself!
xoxoxoBruce Friday Oct 8 09:48 PM
Welcome to the Cellar, randall, and thanks for filling us in with the inside dope.
classicman Friday Oct 8 10:07 PM
Welcome sir, another fan here. Your work is nothing short of Amazing.
SPUCK Saturday Oct 9 06:44 AM
So Randall, how did you find yourself doing this kind of work? A dare? An idea? A challenge?
randall Saturday Oct 9 09:36 AM
i started out as a painter and did that till i was 40. then i worked as an architectural designer and the architect i worked with pushed me to do large instillation sculptures. i did that for ten years till i carved a book rest for a lectern that looked like a book............and here we are. thats the short version. look at the website it has lots of architectural work on it also.
xoxoxoBruce Saturday Oct 9 09:40 AM
Ah, that explains the incredible detail in the painting. I can see the wood working, with care and patience, but the painting just blows me away. Kudos.
randall Saturday Oct 9 03:02 PM
bruce...thats only a third of it. the actual railing is 24 feet long and follows a nine foot radius to form a half circle.it fits exactly between two walls. it took 6 months to carve and two weeks to install......its made from 3 solid glued up blocks of wood. one trick to what i do is everything is random.....so i can rough out fast and loose and make it up as i go along. only the last few steps are brain surgery.
xoxoxoBruce Saturday Oct 9 04:43 PM
Holy shit, I'd love to see that. But I never get invited to houses that have that stuff... afraid I'll gnaw on it I guess.
Gravdigr Sunday Oct 10 03:00 AM
SPUCK Sunday Oct 10 06:38 AM
casimendocina Sunday Oct 10 07:08 AM
randall Sunday Oct 10 07:54 AM
my last reply didnt quite make it onto this thread but i'll give it another go.....yes, this is what i do for a living....not getting rich but no complaints. i'm much more interested in doing what i want with my life.
xoxoxoBruce Sunday Oct 10 08:45 AM
I think that's a goal most people dream of, but few achieve, so plenty of people envy you that.
classicman Sunday Oct 10 09:29 AM
put me on that list Bruce... Awesome Randall.
Griff Sunday Oct 10 02:02 PM
That is just brilliant Randall, thank you for posting!
Undertoad Sunday Oct 10 02:09 PM
Yes indeedy, this is the sort of thing that makes me want to make loads of money and commission a railing like that. It would be almost an honor to use it every day sir, what good work by you!
randall Sunday Oct 10 02:54 PM
thanks !!......without people with the means to acquire what i do.....i would do a lot less of it. here is the first book carving....its the bookrest. a game changer for me. more fun less money. no regrets.
xoxoxoBruce Sunday Oct 10 09:00 PM
The wealthy have always been patrons, the trick today is finding wealth and taste together. There are a lot of rich people with shit taste.
randall Sunday Oct 10 10:24 PM
yes. the lectern is carved from one (glued up) block but the bible rest was separate. it really turned me on, crude as it was. it took a few years to really get it going with the book and then anything paper idea. no shortage of subject matter.
xoxoxoBruce Monday Oct 11 02:35 AM
I can imagine the technique of getting the pages to look like leaves of paper, rather than a block with grooved edges, took a lot of trial and error.
SPUCK Monday Oct 11 05:59 AM
Randall; How long does something like the Box'O'Money take you to do? And, do you find you sort of burn out on a project and set it down to work on another for a while, or do you just plow thru to completion?
randall Monday Oct 11 09:12 AM
spuck....there aint much easier on earth than getting an artist to talk about his work....but thanks. the larger box of money "lunch money" took six weeks to carve and six weeks to paint. i never push it to far. if i get burned out i go do something else. i'm an avid surfer, snowboarder, and like to fish. i just try to keep it in balance so its always fun. as the project nears completion it gets to be more entertaining for for me. its pretty satisfying to go a long distance with no guarantee of success an then get there.
xoxoxoBruce Monday Oct 11 01:51 PM
Randall, you're ruining the image of the tortured, recluse artist, snarling from behind closed curtains.
randall Monday Oct 11 05:08 PM
if thats the image i ruined it completely. once someone told me
xoxoxoBruce Monday Oct 11 07:36 PM
Fishing from a canoe, is definitely athletic... tough on the legs. Always the possibility of a Nantucket sleigh ride, too.
randall Tuesday Oct 12 12:53 PM
the canoe is a battle ship compared to the kayak. i have had one real disaster and one great ride. there are guys here that swim out in the ocean at night with fins and a fishing rod.............
xoxoxoBruce Tuesday Oct 12 01:23 PM
There are also guys that say, 'hold my beer and watch this', but I'm not doing that either.
randall Tuesday Oct 12 03:45 PM
they run in size from 2 foot by2 foot to one at merck pharma thats about 18 feet long. you can tell how big each is by the leaves...life size.
xoxoxoBruce Tuesday Oct 12 06:01 PM
Life size, yeah, that's what I was wondering. You know, if you want a bunch of Oak leaves, it's easier to not cut the wood, and let mother nature use it to make a bunch of leaves while you're fishing.
randall Tuesday Oct 12 06:25 PM
on another site a guy thought it would be better to just put a bunch of baseball cards in a box and call it a day. his comment "why bother"?
Undertoad Tuesday Oct 12 06:40 PM
That's just ignorant. From the very beginning -- the cave drawings -- a big, central part of art is representing real life in other forms. What you choose to represent is the soul of the piece.
xoxoxoBruce Tuesday Oct 12 08:49 PM
The baseball card guy isn't alone. The crowd that buy plastic tableaus from China, and velvet paintings on the street corner, may arguably be valuing a very, very, loose definition of art, but will never understand craft... ever. At least couple of generations have grown up never seeing anything made by hand, not even basic utilitarian items. Everything is store bought, without a clue as to how it's created. What Norm Abrams does on TV is just showbiz magic. Even if they take a class trip/vacation to someplace like Sturbridge or Williamsburg, the candle maker/blacksmith/furniture maker they see, are related to history. Completely disconnected from their lives. Sadly, fewer and fewer will experience the pleasure of creating something with their hands.