Dec 9, 2010: KKK Wedding

A KKK wedding in TN, not 100 years ago, 5 days ago.



I didn't know the Klan performed marriages.



I guess the tea party doesn't have the authority yet.

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tangent: Why do the KKK burn crosses again?

You'd think they'd try to bolster their public image by going green with those new flickering CFL or LED crosses, they're much more eco-friendly...

That's because the green-tech ones need a battery and a switch, which is way beyond the capabilities of these people

What wonderful people..


NOT!

The definition of pathetic.

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Originally Posted by freshnesschronic tangent: Why do the KKK burn crosses again?

The saddest part of that is the little girl in the second picture. She's going to grow up being taught that crap and won't know any better.

If you can successfully remove the burning crosses from the symbolism associated with them, and the hatred and intolerance of the assholes doing it, that's actually a pretty cool picture with those three crosses burning.

Like if you were traveling to a foreign country and there was some local village that celebrated the harvest with a big bonfire of these crosses, or other simple symbols, it would be pretty cool.

yeah. It doesn't look disimilar in tone to some of the solstice photos you see taken around Stone Henge.

Primal.

I'm surprised to see white-costumed and black-costumed members integrated.

Yeah. They're trying to widen their appeal.

How is it again that the KKK is legal?

I thought they were a hate group - but they've gotten around that somehow? Does anyone know?

ETA: the bride and groom - they deserve one another.

I see why they wear those thingys over their heads: those rednecks iz UGLY. Ugly inside, mostly. Being a good person trumps a whole lot of ugly, and they lose on both accounts.

Brianna has got it... otherwise they would infest two more people's lives.

Oh, THAT Klan...never mind..

Brian, very good !

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Originally Posted by Brianna How is it again that the KKK is legal?

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Originally Posted by newtimer On the same grounds that any other racially-oriented group is legal. (Nation of Islam, NAACP, Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, Black Panthers...) They're all permitted to assemble, but we're only allowed to call them names and accuse them of bigotry if their members are white.

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet Poor, persecuted caucazoids.

(I do not know why the image is reversed)

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce I guess the tea party doesn't have the authority yet.link

The NAACP was chartered in direct response to slavery, the Panthers began in response to racism and Mexicans are a native minority who have every right to be here. The KKK mission statement extols the virtues of hatred for everyone, except the majority..white (anglo), protestant men. To compare those scared little pukes who belong to the huge majority with a strong countering organization of minorities is inconceivable and irresponsible.

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet Poor, persecuted caucazoids.

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Originally Posted by newtimer On the same grounds that any other racially-oriented group is legal. (Nation of Islam, NAACP, Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, Black Panthers...) They're all permitted to assemble, but we're only allowed to call them names and accuse them of bigotry if their members are white.

Why, IOD, would you even post this?

Tangiers - The NAACP was formed in 1909 and was not in reponse to slavery. It was a civil rights organization formed to counter state legislation passed in the post-reconstruction era.

The Black Panthers is identified as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center. The group was founded and lead by a violent criminal who later fled to Cuba to avoid prosecution. Read their 10 point program. Pure rascism/hate.

Hey little sister what have you done
Hey little sister who's the only one
Hey little sister who's your superman
Hey little sister who's the one you want
Hey little sister shot gun!

It's a nice day to start again
It's a nice day for a white wedding
It's a nice day to start again.

Why does the Klan burn crosses?

Well, this is actually sort of an involved question, and the real answer follows:

The klan started right after the end of the civil war. The south was beaten down, and some southern gentlemen, and I use that term seriously, decided it would be fun to form a club and have social events, scare their girlfriends, and engage in other truly innocent games. These men were all of Scottish descent, hence the clan. They were all educated men, and one suggested that kuklos be in the name -- kuklos being Greek for "circle", and he thought that this would engender feelings of comradeship in a time of great hardship. Remember, Lincoln had been assassinated, and the comradery that was felt between the winner (North) and the loser (South) had evaporated over night for all intents and purposes. Instead of TONS of Federal aid pouring into the reconstruction, carpet baggers and other shit heels came down south in order to make as much money by as many illegal, indecent, unscrupulous, and downright dirty ways as possible.
Okay, back to the klan. The klan was undergoing a transformation, rapidly -- from a fun-loving bunch of guys who rode around at night dressed in sheets to scare their girlfriends to the vicious racist band of evil things we know today. Unfortunately, they were well aware of their Scottish heritage, and utilized one element of it.
Going back to the 1600s, when Scottish clans would go to war, the clan priest along with the clan elders would take a LARGE wooden cross to the highest point in their lands and set it ablaze. This had a twofold purpose -- one was to summon the whole clan to the keep, the second was to break the pact with God that all men were supposed to hold. This cross burning carried down through the ages to the post-bellum South, and a horrible and evil tradition was born.
I hope that answers your question. I used to teach a class in college about countercultures in America, and believe me, the Klan was WAY up there. If you want to see a GREAT (if dated) video of the modern Klan, try to find "Blood in the Face".

On a better and mentally healthier note -- Happy Hanukkah, Joyous Yule, and Merry Christmas to one and all!

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Originally Posted by tombstone Why, IOD, would you even post this?

Image of the Damned?

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Originally Posted by monster Because it's interesting. It's not called Lovely Fluffy Happy IOTD.

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Originally Posted by footfootfoot That's tomorrow's IOTD but you left out Tasty.

Smoky, I bet.

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Originally Posted by k012957 Sheesh! Gratuitous tea party bashing. It'd be better to keep your politics out of it.

The Southern Poverty Law Center, (and other law centers like it), has caused most of the wealth and property of the KKK, to be taken away with huge lawsuits from their victims.

Sadly, the neo-nazi movement (and several other racial or ethnic gangs), are still popular, especially in the prison system. Every race has it's gang, and you need to belong to a gang or you're an easy target (and they know it, and they are good at targeting loners). You can't choose to join a gang that isn't your color or your ethnicity.

In earlier days, they had several members in Congress, and several more members were sympathizers, of the KKK.

Anybody know whether the KKK has been officially declared a terrorist organization, by Homeland Security?

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Originally Posted by Saknussem Well, this is actually sort of an involved question, and the real answer follows: ...

... and the bride wore ... well, duh.

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Originally Posted by DanaC Nice one Saknussem. That was very interesting.

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Originally Posted by freshnesschronic tangent: Why do the KKK burn crosses again?

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Originally Posted by Adak Sadly, the neo-nazi movement (and several other racial or ethnic gangs), are still popular, especially in the republican party.

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Originally Posted by Jim Spaza stuff

What a bunch of wimps, though. Real men don't wear anything under their skirts....

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Originally Posted by Undertoad Wikipedia doesn't agree with you about any of that

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Originally Posted by Undertoad Wikipedia doesn't agree with you about any of that

Do you have an alternate source to back up your post?

Oh, and welcome!

yup, the KKK manifesto.....

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet Since classic is not around, I fixed that for you. Sadly, the neo-nazi movement (and several other racial or ethnic gangs), are still popular, especially in the republican party.

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Originally Posted by Jim Spaza Yeah. And we know that Wiki is never inaccurate about anything...

A talking head on TV recently attributed the current split between Dems and Repubs
to the civil rights "Voter's Registration" bill of the Johnson administration.

The racially intolerant southern Dems moved to the Republican party,
and the moderate Repubs disappeared or moved into the Democrats

If true, it's an another example of the "law of unintended consequences"

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Originally Posted by Adak It was a Republican who freed the slaves, (Lincoln), not a Democrat, and the bigots never forgot that. Of course, the Democrats have turned that fact on it's head, ...

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Originally Posted by Lamplighter A talking head on TV recently attributed the current split between Dems and Repubs to the civil rights "Voter's Registration" bill of the Johnson administration. The racially intolerant southern Dems moved to the Republican party, and the moderate Repubs disappeared or moved into the Democrats If true, it's an another example of the "law of unintended consequences"

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Originally Posted by wolf (I do not know why the image is reversed)

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Originally Posted by Adak You might want to know the history of one of the major political parties in the country. Because the above quote is certainly inaccurate. It was the Democrats who set up the Jim Crow laws of the South, and fought so hard against racial equality, negro voter registration, civil right, fair housing, and integration. "The Republican party was founded by anti-slavery expansion activists in 1854, it is often called the Grand Old Party (GOP). The party's platform generally reflects American conservatism in the political spectrum, in contrast to the more "liberal" or "progressive" Democrats." -- Wikipedia. It was a Republican who freed the slaves, (Lincoln), not a Democrat, and the bigots never forgot that. Of course, the Democrats have turned that fact on it's head, because it fits much better with their liberal left agenda, but you can look it up. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republi...ited_States%29 And please, check the accuracy of this article! Check out one of the major Southern Democrats of the 20th century: Governor of Alabama George C. Wallace: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Wallace A real Democrat.

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble I had been told that YouTube has a scanning algorithm (that of course they will not admit to as it would be proprietary) that can match any uploaded video against a database of copyrighted data, thus weeding out at least a certain number of the copyright violations without the need for a human to view each one. Flip the image, and it no longer matches.

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Originally Posted by footfootfoot Good points. Just a point to make about Republicans and Democrats of Yore. The only thing today's Republicans and Democrats have in common with the 1800's Republicans and Democrats is the name of the party. For a while it seemed they'd traded places ideologically, now, I find it rather tough to separate them at all unless I get out my hairsplitter.

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Originally Posted by Jim Spaza According to their beliefs, they are not burning the crosses. They are "lighting" them to shine the teachings of Jesus Christ to all the world. That the cross itself is consumed is irrelevant. Originally, the KKK was not a racist organization. And some KKK organizations today still are not. Some actually have black, hispanic, and asian members. Originally, the KKK was created as a vigilante group to police their own towns and were used extensively when the real police and courts could do nothing about lawbreakers and criminals. For example, if a man beat his wife and the police could do nothing, then the KKK would light a cross in the guy's front yard as a warning. If that warning went unheeded, then the KKK would take the guy out into the woods and explain the nature of the problem to him. It originally was NOT about racism. It was about law and order. The fact that some (most?) KKK groups today are racist doesn't change this historical fact. (I'm not a KKK member. I just like accurate history to be taught.)

Yes, the KKK was a vigilante group. They didn't JUST lynch blacks, but blacks were their most frequently killed victim. For whites, an obvious warning of a burned cross, or a "trip to the woods" for a bit of "learnin'", was generally quite sufficient.

Their efforts in the 50's and 60's, mirrored the deep loss they felt as the wave of civil rights and integration became more of a reality.

Integration was the law, but it was not fully integrated into society. We still had "colored" entrances and water fountains and such.

This was before all the rest of the civil rights acts, and activities.

Johnson was not a president I really admired, but in the area of civil rights legislation, he was an amazing champion - he left the Northern liberals with their mouths catching fly's, on this.

All the more amazing, was that he was from a former Confederate state (Texas).

Groan...

To Monster and Foot Foot Foot, who replied to my question of why IOD would even post this picture, and to all of you contributors-- Wow! I understand why now! What an excellent lot of thought-provoking conversation was stimulated by this image! What a great amount of history was recalled by it! I hope school kids will go on this site and read what all of you have to say! It sure points out the importance of knowing history and understanding it! I am impressed with all of the thoughtful, intelligent comments made by a group I am pleased to be a part of!

(stage whisper) I think tombstone is effing with someone (stage whisper)

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Originally Posted by tombstone What a great amount of history was recalled by it invented in response to it!

Holy shit, I think that is the first post I've seen of yours with words, John.

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Originally Posted by John I mean, seriously, you had the tone *almost* perfect, but I would have given you a couple of extra points if you'd properly classified KKK New Guy and Adak as engaging in creative, not historical, writing.

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Originally Posted by John FTFY. I mean, seriously, you had the tone *almost* perfect, but I would have given you a couple of extra points if you'd properly classified KKK New Guy and Adak as engaging in creative, not historical, writing.

Yeah, they were violent to white people who dared to sympathize with black people!

Overwhelmingly they were/are violent to black people. Any white people who were targeted were targeted for sympathizing or helping the civil right cause.
Don't try to pretend that everything they do is not about racial hate. It is.

It was not only the violence and intimidation of Blacks.
The KKK were/are politically active against Catholics and Jews,
and essentially anyone else that was not white and Protestant.

Oregon has a significant legal and social history with the KKK.
Essentially, the basis for private schools in the US was established
by the US Supreme Court in ruling in 1925 against the KKK
and in favor of St Mary's Academy here in Portland, OR.

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Originally Posted by Lamplighter It was not only the violence and intimidation of Blacks. The KKK were/are politically active against Catholics and Jews, and essentially anyone else that was not white and Protestant. Oregon has a significant legal and social history with the KKK. Essentially, the basis for private schools in the US was established by the US Supreme Court in ruling in 1925 against the KKK and in favor of St Mary's Academy here in Portland, OR.

MTP, yes, point taken.

Oregon just didn't have enough Blacks to keep the KKK's busy.
The original State Constitution prohibited Blacks from owning real estate anywhere in the State. It wasn't until after WWII that significant numbers of Blacks settled in the PDX area.

Southern Oregon had KKK activity against the Native Americans, based on land and water rights, and the Chinese laborers who worked in mines and on the railroads. A history that still has lingering effects.

KKK...Oregon's "equal-opportunity" hate group.

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Originally Posted by morethanpretty They are a hate group, their main focus is blacks.

And black Jews.

native american jew catholic monks!

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Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus And black Jews.

Mimes?

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Originally Posted by footfootfoot Holy shit, I think that is the first post I've seen of yours with words, John.

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Originally Posted by John Lots of my posts have words! They just also usually have pictures because I'm posting in the "weird-ass fucking pictures" threads. Adak: Not only did you miss my point completely, but now you've trotted out the phrase "the coloreds". Wow. (Hint: The historical revisionism I was talking about was your conflation of the political parties of the Slaver's Rebellion and Jim Crow eras with the current ones that have similar names, but drastically different agendas. Well, that and your amazingingly misinformed description of what you think the Republican platform is, and why.)

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Originally Posted by Adak The word "coloreds" was not uncommon during the late 40's and 50's. It was not an offensive word, (all racist terms are offensive, but "colored" is only mildly so), being mostly descriptive, and used by more than just white folk.

That's for sure, African American is a term which properly applied refers to very few people in this country, who hold dual citizenship with an African country and the US.

Hey!! HEY!!!HEY!!!!

Don't leave out the Canadians. Dirty fucking Canadians...

I meant Kanadians. Yeah. Dirty fukking Kanadians...

And what happens in just a few more steps ...

Kanadians -> Kanukians -> Kenukians -> Kentukians

But it's Canuckians.

So...a deboned canary, stuffed inside a deboned duck, stuffed inside a deboned dalmation?

Tasty.

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Originally Posted by DanaC So...a deboned canary, stuffed inside a deboned duck, stuffed inside a deboned dalmation?

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Originally Posted by Lamplighter And what happens in just a few more steps ... Kanadians -> Kanukians -> Kenukians -> Kentukians