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   Undertoad  Tuesday May 3 12:33 PM

May 3, 2011: White House situation room during bin Laden raid



And so they watched the raid unfold, live video being shot by a camera affixed to a Navy SEAL's helmet on the other side of the earth.

It's said they witnessed the killing shot.

For or against the administration, it's a great image; can you not imagine yourself in there, directly watching history unfold, hoping for the best outcome?

Or would you be the overflow crowd in the hall, not having the rank to be in the situation room but desperately hoping to catch a glimpse?



glatt  Tuesday May 3 12:40 PM

The General is the only one working. Or maybe he's posting on the Cellar. Everyone else is watching.



glatt  Tuesday May 3 12:44 PM

1. They blurred out the confidential document in the foreground.
2. Even the disposable plastic cups have presidential seals.



glatt  Tuesday May 3 12:46 PM

Not to keep responding to myself, but it always amazes me how small the White House is. That's an extremely cramped room.



Undertoad  Tuesday May 3 12:56 PM

I think Clinton's document is probably a better-res version of this:



Pajamas fellow Wretchard -- an armchair military analyst, but a very good one -- points out the details of the compound:

Quote:
It is shaped like a truncated isosceles triangle with one vertex lopped off. The triangular compound was surrounded by high walls. But it was also internally subdivided, like a ship, in order to make it impossible for a landing force to alight directly within it. The living quarters were grouped in a keep, walled off from the rest of the compound by an alley to either side.

It was designed to delay an assault team long enough for reinforcements to arrive. But the SEALs apparently brought the helicopters down into the confined space anyhow. One of the SEAL helicopters can be seen in this picture of the aftermath, apparently hung up on a high wall.

Interestingly, the Google Maps satellite view shows a series of circular excavations on the interior side of the outer wall. Whatever was to destined be placed there would still leave a clear field of fire from the house but considerably constrict the open space. It would have reduced the maximum available rotor diameter space to something like 20 meters. The CH-53 has a 24 meter rotor diameter and UH-60 has a rotor diameter of about 16 meters.



Owl  Tuesday May 3 03:43 PM

What's Robert Downey Jr. doing there?



lookout123  Tuesday May 3 05:13 PM

Isn't someone going to photoshop the little girl from the royal wedding in there?



footfootfoot  Tuesday May 3 07:37 PM

Or disaster man? Speaking of which, a number of faces, Obama's included, look added later.



lookout123  Tuesday May 3 07:52 PM

Shhh. That is for operational security. He led Seal Team 6 personally.



lupin..the..3rd  Tuesday May 3 09:15 PM

It's funny to me that they use the exact same shitty plastic HP brand laptop that I've got on my desk at work. You'd think they'd have something a little better. lol.



footfootfoot  Tuesday May 3 09:20 PM

I'm sure it's a special 'police package' with bored-out cylinders and turbochargers and gas shocks and shit.



Griff  Tuesday May 3 09:35 PM

That shot really puts you there. That's Merc's elbow behind Hillary. He isn't allowed to say so though.



ZenGum  Wednesday May 4 03:09 AM

I reckon if Merc was that close to Hillary, at that moment when everyone was totally focused on the events on screen ...



DanaC  Thursday May 5 07:38 AM

I love that we get to see that.

That's a picture that will still be looked at a century from now.

Clever too. Hard to imagine a more dynamic view of the President. Beats the shit out of a helmet and a fighter plane.



infinite monkey  Thursday May 5 08:07 AM

I keep coming back to this picture. It is sure to be lasting.



Clodfobble  Thursday May 5 01:36 PM

There was a great bit on Colbert the other night. First, he pointed out that Obama had officially ordered the raid several days before it happened. In fact, the order preceded the release of his birth certificate, as if he were smirking, "Okay guys, fine, here's the long form certificate, I'm sure this is gonna be the top news for weeks and weeks..." Secondly, the annual White House Press Corps dinner also happened in the interim, during which Obama was videotaped laughing long and hard in response to a joke about bin Laden's whereabouts.



ZenGum  Thursday May 5 09:12 PM

I can't believe no one has photoshopped something onto those computer screens.

But what? Teh Cellar? Hard core porn? Solitaire? Two girls one cup? I now... a Rickroll!



monster  Thursday May 5 11:41 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenGum View Post
I can't believe no one has photoshopped something onto those computer screens.

But what? Teh Cellar? Hard core porn? Solitaire? Two girls one cup? I now... a Rickroll!
royal wedding. combined with the hats photoshop


infinite monkey  Friday May 6 08:38 AM

I read (oh crap...I read it. I don't know if it's true. I read it. I don't know. Don't beat me) that Hillary said later she was actually stifling a cough.

Ruined my perception of her 'reaction.'



Coign  Friday May 6 12:03 PM

That is because this is either a) a staged photo or b) some random photo that is put out by the White house Dept of Lies and Deception, I mean PR.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-compound.html



toranokaze  Friday May 6 02:37 PM

Obama only did this because he needed a ps2 fix, and real life was best substitute he could get..



lupin..the..3rd  Friday May 6 11:02 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by infinite monkey View Post
I keep coming back to this picture. It is sure to be lasting.
Probably because William Shatner and Leslie Nielsen got table seats, while poor John Lithgow had to stand.


xoxoxoBruce  Saturday May 7 11:35 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coign View Post
That is because this is either a) a staged photo or b) some random photo that is put out by the White house Dept of Lies and Deception, I mean PR.
Can you think of a more tense, concern causing time, than waiting for the video feed to be restored?
That's probably why the brass is busy on the computer.


SPUCK  Sunday May 8 05:18 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce View Post
Can you think of a more tense, concern causing time, than waiting for the video feed to be restored?
That's probably why the brass is busy on the computer.

Huh?

No, he was playing Call of Duty! Or was it Grand Theft Auto?


DanaC  Sunday May 8 07:58 AM

Angry Birds...



Griff  Sunday May 8 08:51 AM

This live-feed business really forces leaders to confront the reality of what they've ordered. It seems like a good trend.



ZenGum  Monday May 9 04:34 AM

Take it further. Once a day, maybe while he is exercising, the prez watches a headcam feed from some randomly chosen grunt. Might be in a firefight in Fubaristan, might be standing sentry duty on a road block on a god-awful hot day outside Kabul.
"What's that?! ... okay, regular car ... What's that? ... supply truck, let it through ... "
Just to keep him in touch.



Griff  Monday May 9 06:36 AM

Not a bad idea. Fubaristan is a suck-ass assignment btw.



lookout123  Monday May 9 11:09 AM

Good idea, he could use the same system to get a glimpse into the lives of some of America's "rich" small business owners.



Alluvial  Monday May 9 10:32 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenGum View Post
I can't believe no one has photoshopped something onto those computer screens.
How about photoshopping something out?

Quote:
The Hasidic newspaper, Der Zeitung (The Time), photoshopped out two women who featured in the image released by the White House - Mrs Clinton and counter-terrorism analyst Audrey Tomason.

The Brooklyn-based newspaper, which is written in Yiddish, is believed to have removed the women because of issues regarding female modesty.
Link.


glatt  Tuesday May 10 08:20 AM

I saw that in the paper this morning! I was amazed.

They have since apologized, and apparently, if they could do it again, they simply wouldn't run the picture.



xoxoxoBruce  Saturday May 14 09:39 AM

The paper bag with red and white stripes, is a "burn bag" for destroying sensitive documents.



ZenGum  Saturday May 14 07:52 PM

I read a statement from that paper to the effect that they don't show pictures of women because viewers will be distracted by their beauty and this detracts from our respect for their abilities and talents and makes us regard them as bimbos.

I gotta tell those guys, whatever else you may say about her, Hillary did not get where she is on account of her looks.



DanaC  Saturday May 14 08:19 PM

Oh I dunno.




ZenGum  Saturday May 14 09:15 PM

Not bad, I must admit, but I doubt either of us were born then.



BigV  Sunday May 15 05:10 PM

The paper in question from post #31 publishes pictures of these women. How is that the modesty of these women is not worthy of the same respect?

eta: further exploration of the photos from their site revealed numerous pictures of women, some dressed similarly to the ones shopped out of the WH photo. Some are mentioned by name, some are even shown with the President. I think the excuse about the modesty of women is bullshit. It is categorically false that they do not publish pictures of women.

For some reason this story really pisses me off.



BigV  Sunday May 15 05:18 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce View Post
The paper bag with red and white stripes, is a "burn bag" for destroying sensitive documents.
Is that like "Where's Waldo?"? Cause... I'm not seeing a red and white stripey anything? little help please?

and of course, clicking on the link delivers the help I sought. Dwellar, help thyself.


Griff  Sunday May 15 06:59 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigV View Post

For some reason this story really pisses me off.
This one pushes a lot of buttons.


richlevy  Sunday May 15 07:06 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by lupin..the..3rd View Post
It's funny to me that they use the exact same shitty plastic HP brand laptop that I've got on my desk at work. You'd think they'd have something a little better. lol.
Yeah, but they paid some defense contractor $10,000 for that one.


footfootfoot  Sunday May 15 08:34 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigV View Post
The paper in question from post #31 publishes pictures of these women. How is that the modesty of these women is not worthy of the same respect?

eta: further exploration of the photos from their site revealed numerous pictures of women, some dressed similarly to the ones shopped out of the WH photo. Some are mentioned by name, some are even shown with the President. I think the excuse about the modesty of women is bullshit. It is categorically false that they do not publish pictures of women.

For some reason this story really pisses me off.
Quote:
Captain Renault: I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!



infinite monkey  Monday May 16 10:25 AM

Here's the oppo-shop!



classicman  Monday May 16 10:38 AM

That's very funny.
I thought about something like that.
Attributed to a feminist type site/mag/paper, but I was too lazy to do it.



infinite monkey  Monday May 16 10:43 AM

I sure didn't think of it!

I like how it's not even done very well. Adds to the funneh.

Made me lol!



BigV  Monday May 16 12:47 PM

equal discrimination...

oh so pc.. lol.



ogwen69  Monday May 16 01:05 PM

Ok probably been said before BUT,
of the dudes stood up, left to right from our perspective.
1) Khaki shirt with collar silver things dude
2) Blue shirt arms crossed dude (no tie - no respect)
3) old bald dude in a suit - but you wouldn't mess would you?
4) Old David Scwimmer - now is it me or is he photoshopped in?



classicman  Monday May 16 01:35 PM

dunno - I only see the two women



Rhianne  Wednesday May 18 07:03 PM

Did anyone notice that there's a black guy in the photo?



Spexxvet  Wednesday May 18 07:16 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhianne View Post
Did anyone notice that there's a black guy in the photo?
Half-black African American


HungLikeJesus  Wednesday May 18 07:54 PM

H'african-American?



Rhianne  Wednesday May 18 08:29 PM

I wasn't sure of the etiquette, maybe I should've went for 'half-white'.



Spexxvet  Thursday May 19 09:02 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhianne View Post
I wasn't sure of the etiquette, maybe I should've went for 'half-white'.
Don't try Tiger Woods' description, your head might explode


Griff  Saturday May 21 11:19 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by infinite monkey View Post
Here's the oppo-shop!
Oh noes! teh rapture is boys club


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