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   Undertoad  Saturday Dec 21 12:20 PM

12/21/2002: Ukrainian child abuse



In the Ukraine they believe that ice-cold showers, winter swimming, and just generally freezing is good for the health. It's a centuries-old tradition.

And so, these kiddies are waiting for their turn to have ice-cold water dumped on their head, as the outdoor temperature reaches -10 C (14 F).



blowmeetheclown  Saturday Dec 21 12:36 PM

Shrinkage
Warning: the above link is over 900k (but worth it).



blase  Saturday Dec 21 12:51 PM

Yea, and these kids are so hard-ass at 10 they'll beat your ass fierce!

Oh ya, I jump in a freezing lake on New Years (Boulder Polar Bear Club), but it ain't easy enough to do daily.



Slithy_Tove  Monday Dec 23 01:06 AM

Hm. Didn't the Spartans live the same way? They thought it built character or something. Who knows, maybe they were right. Maybe the Ukrainians are building the Master Race.

I, for one, welcome our new frozen Ukrainian overlords.

I doubt the kids are being harmed. Normal well kids have great circulation, great cardiovascular reserve, and seem to be happy at colder temperatures than adults. I'm not sure I'd advise this activity, but the kids in the picture don't seem especially unhappy.

A minor quibble: the country goes by the name of 'Ukraine', now that it's an independent nation. I know, it's hard to switch, after we've called it 'the Ukraine' for the last several centuries that it's been a vassal state to other European powers.



dasviper  Monday Dec 23 08:21 AM

If this system produces Ukranian women who wear miniskirts in negative 10 degree weather, then I'm all for it!



hermit22  Monday Dec 23 06:27 PM

I'd definately second that. That area of the world has some great looking women.



Bikernut2  Monday Feb 27 11:28 PM

Ukrainian child abuse

Perhaps if American children were given this frozen torture they would behave and do better in school. There would probably be less crime and we would raise decent human beings.



seakdivers  Tuesday Feb 28 12:07 AM

With my body, I would welcome some shrinkage. I did the polar dip a few years ago and I stayed the same size.
Hmmph.



djacq75  Tuesday Feb 28 11:38 AM

I'm glad I'm not Ukrainian, but to each his own. Lots of things we do in this country could be considered child abuse by people in other societies.



Happy Monkey  Tuesday Feb 28 12:48 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Slithy_Tove
A minor quibble: the country goes by the name of 'Ukraine', now that it's an independent nation. I know, it's hard to switch, after we've called it 'the Ukraine' for the last several centuries that it's been a vassal state to other European powers.
Get your lessons from the Dept. of Slavic Studies.


xoxoxoBruce  Tuesday Feb 28 09:39 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bikernut2
Perhaps if American children were given this frozen torture they would behave and do better in school. There would probably be less crime and we would raise decent human beings.
Welcome to the Cellar, Bikernut2.
How about we make them sit in ice water while they play Grand Theft Auto.


sandypossum  Tuesday Feb 28 10:24 PM

A friend of mine married a Swedish guy and moved to Sweden. One winter when their first kid, Jesper, was about 2 he was at a birthday party. At some point all the kids went out into the snow, and - as kids do - they started stripping off their clothes and running around naked. None of the Swedish mothers seemed concerned. She said surely the kids should come in or put their clothes on, as otherwise they'd catch a cold. They all gave her a bemused look and carefully explained to her that colds are caused by a virus and not by temperatures. She said she felt like shouting "yes, I know that, but... but...!!" but instead she just bit her lip and let it go. And Jesper didn't catch a cold.

Here in Australia it's considered healthy for your feet if you walk around barefoot, even if it's cold (toughens you up, that sort of thing). I lived in Germany for 7 years, and my flatmates would have a fit if I walked around - in our carpetted, centrally heated, third floor flat - in bare feet. They said it would kill my kidneys if I did that. Another one that upset Germans was opening a window in a moving vehicle: car, bus or train. Again, because it would kill your kidneys. It didn't matter if it was stiflingly hot inside AND outside the vehicle. "Better to suffocate than to die like THAT!" an old lady screamed at me one day. Even doctors there told me that was a fact.

Makes you wonder just how many of our ailments really are psychosomatic - I'm SURE if I jumped through a hole in the ice for a swim it would kill me!



tw  Wednesday Mar 1 12:15 AM

It was something that best wrestlers always did after a long hot practice. Last thing was to turn off hot water - run the shower ice cold. That shock considered essential since every good wrestler did it. I don't know. But when I started doing cold showers, I achieved their position. Superstition? Probably. But that shock of cold water did eliminate fatigue and the pain.

How painful? The coach recruited 120. In three weeks of brutal workouts, that number was down to less than 40. Even many 'in shape' soccer and football players quit early. That 45 degree water was considered necessary to be good.



Trilby  Wednesday Mar 1 06:17 AM

I don't think that's good, tw. It's too much of a shock. Like gunning your car down the highway, then throwing it into reverse.



chrisinhouston  Wednesday Mar 1 09:01 AM

I'd forgotten this IOTD. I think the best part, aside from the anticipation on the kids faces is the outfit the lady is wearing; leather boots with heels and a miniskirt, looks like someone from a game show.



SteveDallas  Wednesday Mar 1 09:05 AM

What game shows do you watch??



wolf  Wednesday Mar 1 10:49 AM

Better ones than you, obviously.



SteveDallas  Wednesday Mar 1 01:02 PM

Yeah, obviously. I want to expand my horizons. Alex Trebeck just isn't cutting it in this light.



xoxoxoBruce  Wednesday Mar 1 06:07 PM

I'll take freezing my nut's off for a thousand, Alex.



capnhowdy  Wednesday Mar 1 06:16 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
I'll take freezing my nut's off for a thousand, Alex.
Wouldn't that be the 'Daily Double' ?


Bikernut2  Thursday Dec 21 08:48 PM

Ukraine Child Abuse

It seems to me that this teacher is really enjoying pouring ice water over these childrens heads. She is not dumping the water but she is ever so slowly pouring the ice water so that these children feel every last drop of water.



Bikernut2  Thursday Dec 21 08:53 PM

Ukraine Child Abuse

Quote:
Originally Posted by Undertoad


In the Ukraine they believe that ice-cold showers, winter swimming, and just generally freezing is good for the health. It's a centuries-old tradition.

And so, these kiddies are waiting for their turn to have ice-cold water dumped on their head, as the outdoor temperature reaches -10 C (14 F).
See the girl in the back? I would have loved to have seen her reaction to the ice water!!


xoxoxoBruce  Thursday Dec 21 09:46 PM

Welcome back, Bikernut2. You have an affinity for this thread, no?



HM 25  Wednesday Oct 29 04:21 AM

These children are not protected from the elements at all. There is nothing wrong with the procedure but it should be done inside so that the children can get warmed up quicker.



classicman  Wednesday Oct 29 08:37 AM

Somebody call a whaaaambulance



TheMercenary  Wednesday Oct 29 08:48 AM

Try that in the US and some parent will claim child abuse.



Cloud  Wednesday Oct 29 09:26 AM

can't say I'm too disturbed--they all look pretty happy.

Akin to Scandinavian sauna, where they jump in the snow after. Or yogic cold showers in the morning.



DanaC  Wednesday Oct 29 12:14 PM

Well hello HM 25 welcome to the cellar



HungLikeJesus  Wednesday Oct 29 12:27 PM

Is that SG's HM?



DanaC  Wednesday Oct 29 12:29 PM

Highly unlikely. Given that HM is just how she refers to him because he was her House Mate. No reason why he'd adopt the initials himself.



HungLikeJesus  Wednesday Oct 29 12:41 PM

Yeah, it was kind of a joke.



Lisau  Wednesday Oct 29 01:09 PM

I did read an article about what woman do to remain cold- free. One of them said she takes cool showers and in the winter will take a warm one but before they shut it off you rinse in cool. Somehow it is good for your skin, etc.



SquidGirl  Thursday Oct 30 09:17 AM

Hmmm...I wouldn't have even thought that bikini's were marketed to the Ukraine region.



Sundae  Thursday Oct 30 09:44 AM

On the coast it has a climate not dissimilar to Italy or Greece.



regular.joe  Thursday Oct 30 05:53 PM

Southern Ukraine is where the Soviet Navy was tethered, also where all the well to do went for vacation. Sort of like our Florida or So.Cal.

Man, the chick pouring the water is HOT. She could pour ice cold water on me any day.



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