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When a girl is taken — usually by her mother — to a free circumcision event held each spring in Bandung, Indonesia, she is handed over to a small group of women who, swiftly and yet with apparent affection, cut off a small piece of her genitals.

I thought it said customized baby. I expected gold rimmed wheels and or a fur fedora.

How wide do you think your eyes would be if someone held you down and another person cut a perfectly good piece of your flesh off your body?

I think the eyes are real.

This procedure, pointless and stupid thought it may be, is small change compared to the radical "female circumcisions" practiced in some parts of Africa. These range from complete clitorectomy to infibulation, where the labia are cut off and the vagina sewn shut. On the wedding night, the groom uses a knife to gain access.

W.
T.
F????

The most amazing thing, to me, is that the social pressure to maintain this, and the actual operation, is mostly done by women.

I'm against that.

Not just women, Zen. In the school playgrounds, little girls who haven't had that done to them are teased and called dirty by those who have.

And maybe the women want the little girls to be just like Mummy.
In the way non-religious men want their sons to look just like Daddy, so have them circumcised too.

I'm glad my niece and partner believe that God didn't put that extra piece of skin there just to keep doctors employed. They'll keep their foreskins unless there is a medical necessity to have them removed. Factory settings all the way in this family.

Just last month in London a Ghanaian boy bled to death following his circumcision by a Rabbi. He told the worried mother to rub Vaseline on the wound.

I don't think it's a very big deal over here. None of my boys are circumcised, and my daughter definitely wont be. I've never heard of anyone giving the boys a hard time cause they have all of their penis intact. I only know of one of my cousins who's had her sons circumcised and it's been her decision to do so because she just 'feels that it's cleaner'. I've raised my objections to the practice with her, but in the end, it's not illegal, and she has it done in the hospital etc, so the risk is pretty minimal.

My older boys have had more issues surrounding racism through their school life, than what their penis looks like.

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble

As young as playgrounds, no. But yes, in this country there is definitely an association with uncircumcised penises being unclean, among teenage and 20-something girls.

Not that I'm aware of, nor that I really have any idea. I grew up in a different generation.
Then again, maybe it was just me.

Unless lads have some sort of body issue, then my experience is also that they like to air their tackle as much as possible. Get a camera out amongst drunk 18 year old men and you'll have all the flaccid cock and balls shots you could ever wish for.

Ho ho ho, look how drunk I was!

Teens don't need drink, but are simply curious to see how they match up.
I've had many male friends admit to me about group masturbation, (literal) pissing contests etc.
In comparison I never showed my lady-garden to my friends.

I think it's a display instinct.

American boys play the fart game.

Group masturbation was pretty contained to gay and gay-in-waiting.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

It's a big thing amongstthe hard knock rugby types. Ya know, 'avin a laugh, a bit of booze, a BJ, just for lulz.

I knew a guy in college who had gone to private school, and he was talking about circle jerks one day and everyone was like, huh? And he explained what they were, and everyone was like, WTF Dude! And then he claimed that he was never in one but that he had heard about them.

Eww.

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Originally Posted by glatt

I dunno, I think it's one of those urban legends that never actually happens. Like pulling a "fuck tab" off a can of soda in my day, or those stupid colored bracelets from about 10 years ago that were supposed to equate to various sex acts, but it was all titillation, cheerleaders weren't actually giving blowjobs to random nerds who managed to swipe a bracelet off them.

All circumcision is wrong imo.

My boys aren't done and have never complained about it, but here (US -could be just my little pocket, but I hear it's the same everywhere), they do not shower after gym in school. Most of the time, they don't even change clothes. they do gym in their street clothes and then go right to their next class. it's gross. My 14yo daughter was disgusted that she had personal fitness (a mandatory course) first hour and the teacher begrudged them time to change out of their sweaty clothes and sneakers, never mind take a shower. but at least they have no opportunity to show and compare naughty bits.

There is no "locker room" atmosphere/mentality until they get to high school sports (aged 14/15)
and even then....

Daughter is a swimmer. They have a communal locker room. They see each other in next to nothing during practice... and yet they take 45 minutes to get out of practice because they take it in turns to change in the toilet cubicles. Oh and they are all great contortionist because, on arrival, they put their suits on over their knickers and bra, and then take those off. Bra easy. knickers/panties.......

Something's wrong here imo, but maybe i'm just a sex-crazed European.

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble

After I suspended my disbelief, I threw up in my mouth a little.

It's like gorillas and other monkeys I guess. Very civilized and proper.

Well, I've heard of "soggy biscuit" as it is called down here, but never known anyone who has actually done it. Like most things, it probably happens more often that I would like to believe.

Yeah, soggy sao is the name down here, and plenty of fellas do it. The true end result of the 'game' is that is whoever blows on the sao last has to eat it.

Saw this in the paper this morning. It surprised me. Most stuff you see about circumcision is criticizing it. It's rare that you see something promoting it with studies and shit.

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Circumcision decreases AIDS risk, but procedure hasn’t been fully embraced
By David Brown, Published: July 25

Circumcision substantially decreases a man’s risk of becoming infected with the AIDS virus by a woman, but acceptance of the procedure has been slow in Africa, where it would do the most good. There’s also evidence that some people overestimate circumcision’s protective effects — a potentially dangerous and unintended consequence of campaigns promoting it.

Those are among the findings presented at the 19th International AIDS Conference here this week.

As a medical procedure, circumcision is simple and becoming simpler. New research shows that nurses can perform it safely after three days of training, and it can be done in assembly-line fashion using devices that don’t require scalpels and stitches.

Although circumcision’s effect on protection against HIV is clear — three studies have shown a 60 percent reduction in risk to men — as a public health strategy, it is fraught with caveats.

I've always thought there must have been a legitimate medical reason for it coming into practice in the first place, thousands of years ago. God says don't eat shellfish because you're much more likely to get food poisoning, and God says cut off your foreskin because there's a bad STD going around that's probably extinct by now. Just like mulesing sheep...