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   Undertoad  Sunday Mar 9 11:49 AM

3/9/2003: DEA closes sites



This is a news image, not a personal capture. I tried to go to the sites that look like this, but their domain names no longer resolve.

This is what you saw if you visited "pipesforyou.com" or "aheadcase.com" last week after the feds jumped in to stop internet sales of drug paraphernalia.



Serk  Sunday Mar 9 12:02 PM

You've gotta go to www.pipesforyou.com , they evidently didn't setup a default DNS IP for just pipesforyou.com.

BTW, www.pipesforyou.com resolves to a A name of www.pipedreams.dea.gov

Oh, and for what it's worth, this makes my blood boil, but I guess I shouldn't be too suprised being under the thumb of the son of the creator of the kinder, gentler police state...


-sigh-



CodeBlue40  Sunday Mar 9 07:57 PM

I'm not a drug user, and I could really care less about the 20 year old "War on Drugs". But this can not be good. It's starting with the DEA closing down sites about drug parephenalia. Before we know it, Fark.com will have a similar sign and Curtis will have a goddamned needle in his arm.



bjlhct  Sunday Mar 9 09:05 PM

Next stop, cryptome.org

Not that http://cryptome.org/stego-pal.htm is there anymore.



Slight  Monday Mar 10 12:58 AM

Well at least the rest of us americans have the first amendment right to free <end transmission>



jaguar  Monday Mar 10 06:34 AM

isonews.com
Of course everyone just gets to it by IP now, and thus feels more l33t.



xoxoxoBruce  Monday Mar 10 03:38 PM

BASTARDS



russotto  Monday Mar 10 04:22 PM

The code in question

21 USC 853(e)(1)
Upon application of the United States, the court may enter a restraining order or injunction, require the execution of a satisfactory performance bond, or take any other action to preserve the availability of property described in subsection (a) of this section for forfeiture under this section -

(A)

upon the filing of an indictment or information charging a violation of this subchapter or subchapter II of this chapter for which criminal forfeiture may be ordered under this section and alleging that the property with respect to which the order is sought would, in the event of conviction, be subject to forfeiture under this section; or

------
That's right -- there's been no conviction of any sort. This is a frigging _restraining order_ not based on the content of the site, but based on the idea that the property MIGHT be taken under criminal forfeiture provisions.



goethean  Tuesday Mar 11 10:56 AM

Can't you use a bong to smoke tobacco?

Doesn't this fact render this action illegal?



Griff  Tuesday Mar 11 12:20 PM

Sorry g this one goes under the Thought Crime subsection. They know the intentions of the buyers. This will prove very useful for the war on terror, all multiple use information or technology is forbidden.



chrisinhouston  Wednesday Mar 12 12:28 PM

It just feels so comforting to see the stars and stripes in the background, like they are looking out for me.



Griff  Wednesday Mar 12 12:51 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisinhouston
It just feels so comforting to see the stars and stripes in the background, like they are looking ... for me.



Riddil  Wednesday Mar 12 01:47 PM

My god...

I posted this same thing in another forum, and was immediately attacked by people saying, "well, if they weren't doing anything illegal then they wouldn't have been shut down"... and "the only thing you can use those for is illegal stuff, so it doesn't matter"...

So suddenly I'm the bad guy for pointing out that it may not be exactly legal to arbitrarily shut down these sites w/o any sort of legal backing.

*smack head*



dave  Wednesday Mar 12 01:50 PM

Eh, it's big in eastern Asia and the Middle East to smoke tobacco through water pipes...

It's kinda shaky ground anyway, I think. There shouldn't be any in the first place, because the War on Drugs is a silly idea.

Taking the domains is a rather lame action, though. All it does is make the sites moderately more difficult to get to.



jaguar  Wednesday Mar 12 05:14 PM

Smoking tobacco though water pipes is VERY popular in many middle eastern countries, turkey particualry if i rememeber correctly. There is also this wierd fruit based stuff they smoke, it's a bit of tobacco, molassas and dried fruit stuff, comes in apple, rasberry etc, VERY nice *ahem*.

No, i don't smoke dope, enver have, never will.

Water pipes do differ a little in design though, the long pipe bit for example....I'm sure people smoke dope thought those too though.

Maybe the idea is they can raid muslims and arrest them for drug use.



juju  Wednesday Mar 12 05:48 PM

Well, so much for freedom.

At least we're not being tortured.



Cam  Wednesday Mar 12 06:21 PM

yet

yeah I'm a pessimistic bastard



elSicomoro  Wednesday Mar 12 08:21 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by jaguar
No, i don't smoke dope, enver have, never will.
Don't feed me that bullshit. Nothing wrong with a doobie or two. Especially when it's legal in the Netherlands.


Elspode  Wednesday Mar 12 09:50 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by juju
Well, so much for freedom.

At least we're not being tortured.
Which is probably more than we can say for the al Quaeda guys who've been run down and captured lately...


wolf  Friday Mar 14 01:43 PM

That's not torture ... that's "being encouraged to cooperate and provide information."



xoxoxoBruce  Friday Apr 11 05:56 PM

Quote:
Don't feed me that bullshit. Nothing wrong with a doobie or two
No, no. It leads down the path to the depths of depravity..chocolate.


quzah  Friday Apr 11 11:20 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce
No, no. It leads down the path to the depths of depravity..chocolate.
You could do both at once. Hold a small bit of chocolate in your mouth at the time. It gives it a distinct smokey flavour. Very um. Interesting. So I've heard.

But hey, all water pipes can't be bad, right? I mean seriously, they're used in kid's cartoons! Ever see the caterpillar in 'Alice in Wonderland'? I'm sure that was just tobacco. Right?

Quzah.


wolf  Saturday Apr 12 08:47 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce
No, no. It leads down the path to the depths of depravity..chocolate.
Chocolate is my drug of choice.


bjlhct  Tuesday Apr 15 02:00 AM

Yes.

It was a hookah quzah.



tw  Wednesday Apr 16 12:01 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by wolf
Chocolate is my drug of choice.
For some, chocolate is the anti-depressant drug. One girl has a candy bar daily and has successfully weaned herself off of her medication. When she tried that about 11 years ago (because she was pregnant), her co-worker finally complained and got her back on the meds. Now she says she can feel negative effects if she forgets to take that non-perscription medication.

Where's Bill Bennet. I have a question. Is chocolate the gateway drug?


wolf  Wednesday Apr 16 02:47 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by tw
Is chocolate the gateway drug?
First step on the path to perdition.

First it's chocolate, which enhances the cravings for other sugars, like jelly beans, swedish fish, and sourpatch kids.

Then next thing you know you find you have a big, old caffiene monkey on your back ...


Griff  Tuesday Sep 16 07:38 AM

Why we need separation of dope and state.



Elspode  Tuesday Sep 16 09:21 AM

How sad that, even under court order, a government would still do its best to keep people from getting the primary benefit intended just because it is delivered in the form of marijuana.



wolf  Tuesday Sep 16 11:24 AM

I did not expect to find another good argument against socialized medicine in this thread!! (The article griff links to is pretty good evidence of why the government needs to stay out of healthcare provision)



Bitman  Tuesday Sep 16 08:21 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by jaguar
i don't smoke dope, enver have
My brain perfectly, too.

Coworker uses chocolate as an anti-depressant too. Swears by Ghiardelli's baking chocolate.


Griff  Tuesday Sep 16 08:32 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bitman

Coworker uses chocolate as an anti-depressant too. Swears by Ghiardelli's baking chocolate.
harsh


elSicomoro  Tuesday Sep 16 08:43 PM

I heard this on CBC this morning...and almost fell out laughing.

"We don't want you all getting TOO high..."



xoxoxoBruce  Tuesday Sep 16 09:17 PM

The first contractor Canada hired had to destroy its entire crop. The thc content was over 16% and would not meet contractual spec of 10%



Undertoad  Tuesday Sep 16 09:26 PM

That's just insane. Weed makes politicians paranoid.



jaguar  Tuesday Sep 16 10:29 PM

Quote:
Don't feed me that bullshit. Nothing wrong with a doobie or two. Especially when it's legal in the Netherlands.
I just pick other drugs :P

and yes, dope is a gateway to chocolate and thus should remain illegal. Bomb Switzerlands and Belgium, the bastards have been luring children for centuries.


wolf  Wednesday Sep 17 01:45 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bitman
My brain perfectly, too.

Coworker uses chocolate as an anti-depressant too. Swears by Ghiardelli's baking chocolate.
I hope that s/he actually swears by the bars marked "For Baking AND Eating".

Baker's Chocolate is a cruel jest perpetrated upon the children of the world, who inevitably at some point have discovered that big ol' bar of apparent chocolatey goodness in the pantry and attempted to engage is some of it's illicit joys only to recoil in horror at the taste.

Ghirardelli bittersweet b&e chocolate is one of their yummiest, IMHO, but I'm a fan of dark chocolate more than the milk varieties. I've also got a couple of vegan friends who can eat the dark G because they don't have dairy components.

Chocolate is my drug of choice.


Griff  Wednesday Sep 17 07:00 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Undertoad
Weed makes politicians paranoid.
tagline alert!


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