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   Undertoad  Thursday May 8 04:15 PM

5/8/2003: Unabomber's cabin



Doesn't look like much. This is the cabin of Theodore Kaczynski, the "Unabomber". Kaczynski built the little hut himself and lived there for 25 years, going insane, writing in journals, and eventually writing long anti-technology screeds and building bombs to mail to technologists.

When they got the guy, they decided to take his cabin intact to his trial, so they could show the conditions he was living under to try to show that he was insane. Eventually Kaczynski pled guilty. For some legal purpose the cabin was kept around, but now it's no longer needed.

It was going to be dismantled, but the owner, a member of Kaczynski's legal team, was spooked when the event drew reporters. It'll probably wind up dismantled after all. Which is okay; what are you going to do, put it into the Museum of Bizarre Criminals?



That Guy  Thursday May 8 04:57 PM

I guarantee someone would pay top dollar on eBay for that.



chrisinhouston  Thursday May 8 06:04 PM

I'm trying to figure out what the folks in front of the cabin in the upper right are doing. Looks like a photo shoot, a medium or large format camera on a tripod, couple of light stands, some gear cases, a chair for the art director or somebody, some flagging tape to keep out the curius bystanders.

I blew the shot up in Photoshop before it really fell apart and it looks like the first guy on the right is just standing there but the guy next to him is taking a picture with a smaller format camera.

Ever notice how in movies the government guys can always blow up little images infinately and just keep sharpening the images up till you can see every little detail? Perhaps there is a vesion of Photoshop we don't know about like Photoshop CIA.

This will bother me at 2am, not knowing what was going on.



xoxoxoBruce  Thursday May 8 10:24 PM

I'll huff and I'll puff and I'll blow your house down.



slang  Thursday May 8 10:25 PM

Funny. Kinda looks like my house only without the coax cable running out of it and piles of spent ammo casings under the window.



MachineyBear  Thursday May 8 11:59 PM

Hey, get yer shack out of my driveway!



wolf  Friday May 9 01:50 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by slang
Funny. Kinda looks like my house only without the coax cable running out of it and piles of spent ammo casings under the window.
I'll crochet you a brasscatcher, sweetie.


dfenstrate  Friday May 9 03:40 AM

Ever notice how in movies the government guys can always blow up little images infinately and just keep sharpening the images up till you can see every little detail? Perhaps there is a vesion of Photoshop we don't know about like Photoshop CIA.

They can do this, but you need a moving image to do it, and several frames at that. It doesn't work on stills nearly as well.

The reason that you can blow up a moving image a great deal is that you can compare something over several frames. I don't know how to put in words how it works, but it does.



mitheral  Friday May 9 10:19 AM

To a certain degree. But in the movies it's almost always some single frame, grainy, video survalince image that they blow up 10,000X and then read the guys wristwatch or something. The information they are supposedly sharpening only exists as a couple pixels in the original at best.



dfenstrate  Friday May 9 10:48 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by mitheral
To a certain degree. But in the movies it's almost always some single frame, grainy, video survalince image that they blow up 10,000X and then read the guys wristwatch or something. The information they are supposedly sharpening only exists as a couple pixels in the original at best.
Very true, but by studying how those pixels change over dozens to hundreds of frames, a great deal of information can be extracted. Unfortunately, I can't offer any solid citations, but I remember seeing a demonstration on the Discovery Channel where they took images from a conveinance store security camera that recorded a murder-robbery, and extrapolated enough information to clarify his tattoo, which led to identification and conviction.

Let's say you have 1024 shades of gray, (just a guess on how many shades you could extract from a tape) and an 8x8 grid of pixels to work with for a feature. 640 bits of information. If you have the area on camera and moving for 4 seconds, thats around 8 kilobytes of infomation you have, or an 80*80 grid of 10 bit grey scale, which is significantly more detail. Now, i'm not saying you can necessarily get that much detail, but that is how much information you have to work with.

The theory, i believe, is that a detailed picture will light up different pixels in different ways as it moves up in a frame, as compared to left or right, or down, or as the angle of the surface changes, so that several low resolution representations can be processed into one higher resolution representation.

I'd like to say that it's entirely possible I'm wrong, because it's been years since I've seen this show, but as a graduating engineer, the theory seems sound to me. I'll send it up for peer review .

Here's a relevant NASA press release:
http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/news/releases/2002/J02-81.html Best I can do right now
and another with some pictures:
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2000/ast31aug_1.htm


juju  Friday May 9 11:32 AM

Nope, sorry. It's absolutely, 100% unconstitutional.



bartman  Friday May 9 12:08 PM

Re: 5/8/2003: Unabomber's cabin

Quote:
Originally posted by Undertoad
... Eventually Kaczynski pled guilty.
A little OT, but still...
I had to check again after reading the thread and make sure that you hadn't put 'pleaded'. This is one of the reasons why I read the cellar, for the grammatical integrity, one of the last defensive bastions against the deformation of English. Well, except for Billy and Ruscita(sp?), who can be excused.

You have restored my faith in humanity, and my raised my intestinal fortitude. Or something like that.

Great site.


xoxoxoBruce  Friday May 9 12:30 PM

Bartman, are you really Dave? C'mon 'fess up?



bartman  Friday May 9 12:41 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce
Bartman, are you really Dave? C'mon 'fess up?
Nope. Really.


dave  Friday May 9 12:44 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce
Bartman, are you really Dave? C'mon 'fess up?
Nope. Really.


xoxoxoBruce  Friday May 9 12:55 PM

Quote:
Nope. Really.
OK.....but the handwriting looks the same,.... Hmmmmm?


bartman  Friday May 9 12:59 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce

OK.....but the handwriting looks the same,.... Hmmmmm?
I dunno, are my comments really that much like his?

Really, I'm not him.

Isn't he the one that everyone said goodbye to recently?


xoxoxoBruce  Friday May 9 01:07 PM

No, no not the content. The HANDWRITING.
Say goodbye to Dave...never. Besides the fact that he posted 20 minutes ago, if he said he was leaving we wouldn't say goodbye. We would just whimper and pine for his return.



bartman  Friday May 9 01:16 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce
No, no not the content. The HANDWRITING.
Say goodbye to Dave...never. Besides the fact that he posted 20 minutes ago, if he said he was leaving we wouldn't say goodbye. We would just whimper and pine for his return.
DOH!!

Hadn't noticed Dave's post. Huh, yeah, there does seem to be a resemblance there.....

Must be my acquired american attention span.


dave  Friday May 9 01:17 PM

(I did that as a joke, Bruce.)



That Guy  Friday May 9 01:39 PM

I thought it was funny. But I liked Bruce's joke too, so what do I know?



xoxoxoBruce  Friday May 9 02:49 PM

Quote:
(I did that as a joke, Bruce.)
Me too, or is that me also? So did I.


Bitman  Friday May 9 05:19 PM

Bitman, Batman, Bartman, Dave. Which one is not like the others?



bartman  Saturday May 10 09:26 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bitman
Bitman, Batman, Bartman, Dave. Which one is not like the others?
Dammit, now you've got that Sesame St. song stuck in my head.




xoxoxoBruce  Sunday May 11 08:43 PM

Quote:
Bitman, Batman, Bartman, Dave. Which one is not like the others?
The answer is ALL are not like the others.
Each is a unique and cherished member of Cellar.:p


wolf  Sunday May 11 10:54 PM

jeez, xoxoxoBruce is coming on to EVERYBODY!



Bitmap  Monday May 12 12:38 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bitman
Bitman, Batman, Bartman, Dave. Which one is not like the others?

(* feeling left out *)


wolf  Monday May 12 11:58 AM

I think this all just means that you are exceptional and unique, bitmap ...



Bitmap  Monday May 12 12:18 PM

awww..... shucks



xoxoxoBruce  Wednesday May 14 11:00 AM

Quote:
jeez, xoxoxoBruce is coming on to EVERYBODY!
Desperate times call for desperate measures. You never know who works for Tom Ridge. Er..ah...I mean I love everybody.


Bitman  Wednesday May 14 10:00 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bitmap
(* feeling left out *)
Sorry about that. Believe or not, I knew that, I was just too lazy to find out WHO I left out. So is Batman a user around here?


chrisinhouston  Thursday May 15 01:14 PM

another view

Found another picture of the cabin:
http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/cr...lers/unabomer/



kisrael  Thursday May 15 01:17 PM

The Unabomber wasn't as insane as people assume. I've only read a bit of it, but I've heard that NY Times creed is a pretty consistent and reasonably well thought out argument. He has some points; arguably, our society's relationship with technology is way out of wack. I don't think he proposes a realistic scenario, and it's a bit neoluddite, but still. Sanity wise, I'd put him at least as competent as palistinean suicide bombers.

Also, he's a dead easy halloween costume; I just put on the hooded sweatshirt I always have on hand at the overly-AC'd office, slip on my magnet clip on sunglasses, and I'm good to go!



wolf  Thursday May 15 01:59 PM

I just finished reading John Douglas' (FBI Profiler) book on the Unabomber.

Yes, he was as crazy as they were saying.

There is more to mental illness than the folks who see things and hear the voice of God telling them to run down the middle of the street naked while shouting "duct tape." Some mentally ill people are more organized than others.

Douglas' book was published shortly after the capture, but does include information on events leading up to that and some information on him while in custody awaiting trial.

I'd love to see the forensic psychologist/psychiatrist's reports on interviews with him.



wolf  Thursday May 15 02:14 PM

I love the internet

Fished my wish!



kisrael  Thursday May 15 03:35 PM

Wolf, I bow to your observations. Interesting document there.

Still, although I am a great big technophile, I do wonder if our society could still work and be interesting if it were a lot less techcentric...



Bitman  Tuesday Jun 17 06:47 PM

Re: I love the internet

Quote:
Originally posted by Teddie
My very hopelessness had liberated me because I no longer cared about death. I no longer cared about consequences and I said to myself that I really could break out of my rut in life an do things that were daring, irresponsible or criminal.
I have that reaction all the time, primarily while playing Grand Theft Auto. I'll fail a delivery mission, so I'll just race around and mow people down and destroy stuff. After I'm arrested or killed (or bored in god mode,) I'll reload and play normally again.

Amazing how normal that reaction is, and that video games actually let you investigate the consequences in any way your mind needs. Fun too.


MaggieL  Saturday Jun 21 10:40 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by wolf
I'll crochet you a brasscatcher, sweetie.
I certainly don't have to tell *you* that freshly-ejected brass is hot.

Maybe you should use steel wool.


xoxoxoBruce  Sunday Jun 22 11:02 AM

Quote:
Maybe you should use steel wool.
I don't want those sheep in my boots.


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