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   xoxoxoBruce  Sunday Sep 16 10:09 PM

Sept 17th, 2018: The Manhattan

Since Trump gave you that huge tax cut don’t you think it’s about time to free yourself from those ghastly flying bus commercial
airlines with surly cabin attendants and rigid schedules. Go where you want, when you want, in a manner you and your guests deserve.
Why settle for a Bombardier or Gulfstream when you can move up to an Embraer Manhattan.



Quote:
The Manhattan is as sophisticated as New York City style itself. Deep mahogany wood panels, brass and gold trim and rich jewel hues provide the perfect backdrop for adventure. Beautiful artwork in the entry includes a distinctive metallic mural, reminiscent of the iconic art deco mural in the Empire State Building. Guests can meet in the Cloud Club, a luxury lounge with décor inspired by the Chrysler building. The Cloud Club features a cosmopolitan style bar with retractable bar stools, vintage sconces and a mohair/lambskin divan. One of the key features of this gorgeous space is the panoramic city loft window inspired by Jean-Michel Frank designs. The Manhattan evokes a timeless elegance with touches of grand iconic style. Warm wooden flooring, rich accents and brass light treatments throughout the aircraft create a clubby atmosphere, ideal for the flow of cocktails and conversation.


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For dinner options, look no further than The Crystal Room, an enclave that allows six passengers at a time to dine privately, in perfectly appointed style. The Manhattan’s Park Avenue style is evident in the plush divans and rich color schemes. Experience the splendor of a bygone era while enjoying the latest in advanced flight avionics and bespoken designs.


Quote:
New York aficionados will delight at the Manhattan, an aircraft with design flourishes that reflect styles curated from New York’s top interior designers. Welcome aboard opulent luxury, exquisite elegance and rich experience.
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Clodfobble  Sunday Sep 16 10:36 PM

"bespoken" [emoji38]



xoxoxoBruce  Sunday Sep 16 11:00 PM

Well you know them furiners don't talk gooder English like us do.



sexobon  Sunday Sep 16 11:06 PM

If you have to change flights, the The Manhattan Transfer will sing your itinerary.



Gravdigr  Monday Sep 17 03:43 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Clodfobble View Post
"bespoken" [emoji38]
I stumbled over that, too, but...


Clodfobble  Monday Sep 17 06:28 PM

Just 'cuz it's a word don't mean they used it correctly.

Quote:
Experience the splendor of a bygone era while enjoying the latest in advanced flight avionics and bespoken designs.
They're implying that someone said the designs out loud.


Happy Monkey  Monday Sep 17 06:40 PM

Wouldn't that be the audiobook of The Great Gatsby?



Clodfobble  Monday Sep 17 06:48 PM

Or maybe all the passengers are blind.



lumberjim  Monday Sep 17 06:49 PM

I've heard that recently on Goblin Works Garage (British show on Velocity). From context I took it to mean 'custom made' or 'one off'


be·spoke
bəˈspōk/

  1. 1.
    past of bespeak.




adjectiveBritish

adjective: bespoke
  1. 1.
    (of goods, especially clothing) made to order.
    "a bespoke suit"

    • (of a trader) creating made-to-order goods.
      "bespoke tailors"









Clodfobble  Monday Sep 17 06:51 PM

Right. So it should be "bespoke" designs. The adjective can't be put in the past tense like the verb can. You are not a "larged" man.



lumberjim  Monday Sep 17 06:59 PM

well, some times I get Larged.



sexobon  Monday Sep 17 07:00 PM

I got the impression that bespoken here meant indicated referring back to the latest in advanced.

Quote:
Experience the splendor of a bygone era while enjoying the latest in advanced flight avionics and bespoken designs.
Is saying:

Experience the splendor of a bygone era while enjoying the latest in advanced flight avionics and the latest in advanced designs.

(eliminating the redundancy)


Clodfobble  Monday Sep 17 09:41 PM

I will not turn this into a shark/dolphin//squirrel/tree//airplane/treadmill discussion.

I will not turn this into a shark/dolphin//squirrel/tree//airplane/treadmill discussion.

I will not turn this into a shark/dolphin//squirrel/tree//airplane/treadmill discussion.



sexobon  Monday Sep 17 10:46 PM

^bespeaks deconfliction^



Glinda  Tuesday Sep 18 03:27 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by lumberjim View Post
well, some times I get Larged.
I prefer to get small.


Gravdigr  Tuesday Sep 18 05:48 PM

Had a sleepover at the bartendress' house.

When it all started, I was larged. When it all was over, I was somehow ensmalled. And enshrivelled.

But, great fun was had on the way to The Ensamllening.

Great fun.




lumberjim  Tuesday Sep 18 05:50 PM

I just saw Bespoke used in some video about something. I think it may become one of those annoying words that has a huge comeback.



Gravdigr  Tuesday Sep 18 05:53 PM

So, 'bespoked' means like a bicycle/motorcycle wheel?



glatt  Tuesday Sep 18 05:55 PM

Bespoke can just go back under the rock it came out of. I first heard it in the last year or two, and you are right that it is increasing in frequency. Somebody ought to do one of those Google trend word searches to back me up.



Undertoad  Tuesday Sep 18 06:09 PM

https://trends.google.com/trends/exp...o=US&q=bespoke

Now, change the date range to last 12 months - or less - and check in which subregion it's most popular.



Flint  Tuesday Sep 18 06:12 PM

"Bespoke" is something made by hipsters. You buy it at a pretentious shop, and they charge way too much for it. It's one level worse than artisanal.

"Bespoken" is the wrong word in this context. It's basically a typo.



Undertoad  Tuesday Sep 18 06:12 PM

In fact, here it is if you just isolate DC over the last 5 years:

https://trends.google.com/trends/exp...S-DC&q=bespoke

Pretty remarkable and you are definitely in touch with lingo of your region!



Gravdigr  Tuesday Sep 18 06:39 PM

One off = bespoke



Clodfobble  Tuesday Sep 18 07:16 PM

It's a word that comes and goes with the economy. Custom, personalized fashion is something rich people pay for, and there is a lot less of a demand for it in a recession.



sexobon  Tuesday Sep 18 09:33 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by lumberjim View Post
… I think it may become one of those annoying words that has a huge comeback.
Irregardless, its use will remain divisive.


glatt  Tuesday Sep 18 10:04 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Undertoad View Post
In fact, here it is if you just isolate DC over the last 5 years:

https://trends.google.com/trends/exp...S-DC&q=bespoke

Pretty remarkable and you are definitely in touch with lingo of your region!

Sweet! Thank you


xoxoxoBruce  Tuesday Sep 18 10:05 PM

Are you sure you aren't my second EX, that was her pet word and her passion was stirring shit.



sexobon  Tuesday Sep 18 10:24 PM

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sexobon  Tuesday Sep 18 11:02 PM

Quote:
Experience the splendor of a bygone era while enjoying the latest in advanced flight avionics and bespoken designs.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flint View Post
… "Bespoken" is the wrong word in this context. It's basically a typo.
Yeah, no.

Quote:
New York aficionados will delight at the Manhattan, an aircraft with design flourishes that reflect styles curated from New York’s top interior designers.
"Bespoken" is perfectly cromulent in this context.


xoxoxoBruce  Tuesday Sep 18 11:27 PM

I doubt many linguists or english professors will be buying these babies.



sexobon  Tuesday Sep 18 11:36 PM

As a peasant English speaker who doesn't hobnob with linguists or english [sic] professors, you don't have to worry about that.



sexobon  Wednesday Sep 19 01:10 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gravdigr View Post
So, 'bespoked' means like a bicycle/motorcycle wheel?
Is tricksy; because, "bespoken" means "engaged" as in "She bespoken for."




Glinda  Wednesday Sep 19 01:31 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gravdigr View Post
Had a sleepover at the bartendress' house.

When it all started, I was larged. When it all was over, I was somehow ensmalled. And enshrivelled.

But, great fun was had on the way to The Ensamllening.
I am a word geek of a slightly aberrant nature, and while this isn't actually a word, it absolutely should be.

I am officially in love.


Gravdigr  Wednesday Sep 19 05:07 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
I am a word geek of a slightly aberrant nature, and while this isn't actually a word, it absolutely should be.

I am officially in love.
Oh, it's a word, baby!

Our word!


Gravdigr  Wednesday Sep 19 05:09 AM

Heh, that's a fun thread.



Griff  Saturday Sep 22 09:01 AM

I'll bespoken tomorrow morning. That means I'll have to hand-set my alarm.



Gravdigr  Saturday Sep 22 04:40 PM

I will be besmoken a little later today.

Bemoken - adj - Stoned



Carruthers  Sunday Sep 23 06:59 AM

Probably not much call for one of the these on your bizjet, but at least it would be in good company with all the other bespooky stuff.

Attachment 65079



fargon  Sunday Sep 23 07:40 AM

Their marketing person needed to pay attention in class, that is a fourth grade vocabulary word.



Carruthers  Sunday Sep 23 08:19 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by fargon View Post
Their marketing person needed to pay attention in class, that is a fourth grade vocabulary word.
It's a term I've always associated with the tailoring trade, a 'bespoke suit' being made to measure as against 'off the peg'.
It seems to have an honourable enough past:

Quote:
Perhaps the most famous customer in the Benson & Clegg ledgers is His Majesty King George VI
The King had originally been a customer of the company whilst holding the title of His Royal Highness The Duke of York back in 1937, but following his accession to the throne Benson & Clegg were formally granted the honour of the Royal Warrant as his bespoke tailors.
LINK


Separated by a Common Language,
Observations on British and American English by an American linguist in the UK, is an interesting blog:

Quote:
Incidentally, if a tailor makes you a suit in the UK, it's said to be a bespoke suit.
In the US we'd say tailored or made-to-measure, which is perfectly sayable in the UK too.
Anything that's made to personal specifications can be bespoke.
Checking the web, I got "bespoke vehicles", "bespoke network solutions", "bespoke mirrors", "bespoke browbands" (for horses).
LINK


Clodfobble  Sunday Sep 23 09:27 AM

It just occurred to me that every public speech is also bespoke at the time of its creation (except that one Melania's staff plagiarized.)



Griff  Sunday Nov 11 07:27 AM

Can't even drink my coffee without being bespoken to...



fargon  Sunday Nov 11 07:56 AM

that is a better use of the word than in the Patio Room advertisement.



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