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   xoxoxoBruce  Wednesday Aug 7 11:34 PM

August 8th, 2019 : I Think I Can

The coal fired steam engines (locomotives) of the Sandaoling coal mine in China. These are Chinaís Jeaious Class Locomotives and
only still used here. Iíll bet they donít have a problem with vegetation encroaching on the tracks.
When pulling 50 coal cars for 3 miles up a pretty steep grade out of the mine pit, the best they can do is 30 kph (18.6 mph).

These engines are scheduled to be shut down, along with the mine in 2020, as China moves to cleaner energy.
They say one of these engines goes by ever 10 minutes or so.
50 coal cars, every ten minutes, night and day, thatís a lot of coal, and a lot of energy to replace.

If you want to see a video of them in action Iím posting one in the Choo Choo thread over here.

Griff  Thursday Aug 8 08:21 AM

That is an absurd amount of coal. Spectacular trains though.

Diaphone Jim  Thursday Aug 8 12:25 PM

That is awesome in a guilty sort of way.
I wonder if the locomotives are fed the crappiest grade of coal, maybe even sweepings, to have what seems such incomplete combustion.
As you say, nothing green in the area.

Carruthers  Thursday Aug 8 04:54 PM

Steam trains could die out because of government crackdown on coal, heritage railway operators warn

The comforting chug of a steam train may be left in the past under government plans to crack down on coal, heritage railway operators have warned.

As the country moves towards a carbon-neutral future, officials plan to shut down every coal plant in the UK by 2025.

Members of the £400m steam train industry have said they face an "uncertain future" and have asked for government help, as they fear the coal price rises that will be caused by the plant shutdown will put them out of business.

Conservative councillor Thomas Smith, who drives a steam train in Norfolk said: "Every railway enthusiast needs to write to their MP, and create a big stink.

"Britain is burning so little coal now it's almost all gone from electric generation, time to tackle coal abroad and oil fuels at home..."

Graeme Bunker, who works on a steam train, added: "Itís the cost of fuel not the legislation.

It also includes a lot of virtue signalling when their are much bigger issues to manage than folks with open fires in the shires. In cities I see the point, but in the country it wonít be popular."

Industry groups have said a drop in demand for coal could see supply drop in the same way, which has sparked fears that prices will rise.

Ian Crowder, from Gloucestershire Warwickshire Steam Railway, told the BBC: "It's all very well the government gives us reassurances but those reassurances needs to be in legislation."

He said heritage railways were "an important tourism attraction for the UK" that bring in millions of visitors.

The steam train worker added that the amount of coal used by steam trains is negligible in terms of the UK's carbon footprint.

He said: "Itís the law of unintended consequences: no-one including government wants railways to be affected but if other coal use disappears that would be the effect.

UK currently uses 12m tonnes coal pa - railways use just 26,000 tonnes pa".

A Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy spokesman said: "Our policy of phasing out coal in our power system by 2025 will not restrict its use for heritage railways.

"They will be able to continue to source coal either through domestic suppliers or imports."
BiB: If a Govt. spokesbot says one thing, you can pretty much depend on him meaning the exact opposite.



xoxoxoBruce  Friday Aug 9 12:33 AM

Originally Posted by Diaphone Jim View Post
That is awesome in a guilty sort of way.
I wonder if the locomotives are fed the crappiest grade of coal, maybe even sweepings, to have what seems such incomplete combustion.
As you say, nothing green in the area.
The video shows them shoveling pretty good sized chunks but it could be low grade.

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