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   Undertoad  Saturday Jul 12 05:00 PM

7/12/2003: Bridge over foam



This is the Tiete River in Pirapora do Bom Jesus, Brazil. Yes, that's a bridge - at first I thought it was an irrigation arm or something.

But no, they attach nozzles to the bridge itself to spray on that foam to keep it down. The foam itself is generated by a mixture of chemical detergents and organic pollutants.

Yummy!



Cochese  Saturday Jul 12 06:40 PM

So chemical Z is fighting chemicals A through Y. Wonderful.



OnyxCougar  Saturday Jul 12 06:51 PM

That's unreal. Is that the best cleanup solution they can come up with?



joydriven  Saturday Jul 12 09:54 PM

Just to keep the foam down in the area directly under the bridge? It seems like a narrow swatch. I wonder how tall the rest of the foam gets.



xoxoxoBruce  Saturday Jul 12 10:11 PM

All that foam must clean the fish, real more gooder.

Here's the story .
Here's the story with pictures.



chrisinhouston  Sunday Jul 13 09:58 AM

Reminds me of my youth. We'd be out running wild on a Saturday night and toss a laundry detergent soap pellet into a local city fountain.

Next morning on the way to Mass with my folks we'd all be amazed at the mountain of bubbles engulfing the fountainl.

"Wonder how that happened?" my mom would say.



Undertoad  Sunday Jul 13 10:16 AM

If Count Zero is still reading he surely knows more about this -- it's just south of where he lives. CZ, got some better facts?



dave  Sunday Jul 13 12:53 PM

Yes. The foam was caused by the Bush administration.



elSicomoro  Sunday Jul 13 01:12 PM

It's a WMD which we will use as justification for going to war against Brazil.



Torrere  Sunday Jul 13 02:47 PM

Wow! Now that would be a sight to see. It looks post modern, apocalyptical. The dark and gloomy image that UT posted creates such a better mood than the ones from Bruce's link.

--
Chris, our city fountain no longer fonts because of doings like that.



xoxoxoBruce  Monday Jul 14 10:42 PM

Oh sure, you always liked UT best.



Undertoad  Monday Jul 14 11:57 PM

Hah! I'm better at stealing stuff than you!

Too bad there's no money in it.



xoxoxoBruce  Tuesday Jul 15 12:25 PM

You ARE Dumbledore.
I am not worthy.:p



Torrere  Tuesday Jul 15 01:31 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Undertoad
Hah! I'm better at stealing stuff than you!

Too bad there's no money in it.
Hey! You might be on the verge of a whole new career opportunity!


xoxoxoBruce  Tuesday Jul 15 06:41 PM

Quote:
Hey! You might be on the verge of a whole new career opportunity!
Ahem
Quote:
Too bad there's no money in it.



Torrere  Wednesday Jul 16 04:45 AM

Well, you would have to modify the business plan a little bit. Mostly, he would have to stop stealing free stuff -- of course there wouldn't be any money in that!



Count Zero  Wednesday Jul 16 07:03 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Undertoad
If Count Zero is still reading he surely knows more about this -- it's just south of where he lives. CZ, got some better facts?
Ok, here it goes. The TietÍ river is the most polluted river in the world (I think the second one is -- or was -- the Thames river in London). It's absolutely disgusting. I've never seen foam like that, but, believe me, that makes it a bit <i>less</i> disgusting. You don't want to have a close look at it and you definitely don't want to smell it. They widened the river last year, but before that there were sometimes these floods... Well I don't want to describe it. :-]

The most bizarre thing is that by the time it reaches the ocean, it's absolutely clean! A friend of mine actually swam in the river and drank water from it several (and several) kilometers away from the city, and the fact that he is still alive and not horribly mutated proves it was quite clean. He said the water was transparent, but I wouldn't dare coming close anyway. This proves a very depressing (and a bit hopeful) point that the only measure necessary to unpollute the river is to stop polluting it, and nature will take care of the rest.

The government started a movement to unpollute it about 10 years ago (they even hired the same company that supposedly did a good job on the Thames), but it went stale, since the amount of work in the sewer system necessary to stop the pollution was absolutely huge.


Chris MC  Sunday Jul 20 05:16 AM

Hi there just noticed your reference to the Thames River (which is clean now by the way) and thought I'd post This Link for your information ... my I'm feeling helpful today



Chris_MC



xoxoxoBruce  Sunday Jul 20 09:38 AM

Excellent link, Chris.



Undertoad  Sunday Jul 20 10:30 AM

"Julie said to jim why don't we jump in
While the water is cool and we are still friends"

-Lloyd Cole & the Commotions "Speedboat"



OnyxCougar  Sunday Jul 20 11:58 AM

That's a great link, but I've been there, and there is NO way you could get me into that water.



modernhamlet  Tuesday Jul 22 09:22 AM

At least it hasn't caught fire yet.

<img src="http://www.epa.gov/region2/epa30/images/cuyah.jpg">

/embarrassed Ohioan



xoxoxoBruce  Tuesday Jul 22 09:48 AM

On the upside, there's no mosquitos.



OnyxCougar  Tuesday Jul 22 10:24 AM

OK, this may have been discussed before, but I've always wondered:

If a river is so polluted it burns, why not let it burn, and in the process, burn the impurites out?

(I know I could probably have asked that better, but I'm getting ready for work, so I'm in a hurry.)

Isn't fire one of the better natural cleansers? When the fuel is gone, the fire will go out, yes? I say let it burn, and in the meantime, the shame of whole situation is on the communities and surrounding areas that allowed the water to get so polluted in the first place.

I think it's ludicrous to put out a river fire with WATER, when that infusion of fresh water may have prevented such horrible conditions, and I won't go into the whole "shouldn't have let it get so dirty in the first damn place" argument.



xoxoxoBruce  Tuesday Jul 22 10:48 AM

The problem with any unchecked fire is collateral damage. That river fire only burned for 20 minutes and still managed to damage two railroad bridges.



OnyxCougar  Tuesday Jul 22 11:54 AM

I understand that, but I don't feel any pity for that "collateral damage". If the railroad had interest in the river, maybe they should have been part of a solution to ensure things like that didn't happen.



dave  Tuesday Jul 22 12:07 PM

The problem is that it's never that simple. That railroad could be delivering essential grain and other foodstuffs to people that need it. Or it may be the most affordable way for a poor woman to make it across the country to visit her dying son.



OnyxCougar  Tuesday Jul 22 12:12 PM

Another good reason why everyone should be involved in keeping our planet in good condition and for ALL of us to be concerned about these types of problems.



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