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   Undertoad  Friday Sep 5 12:51 PM

9/5/2003: Mom and daughter elephants

We've had a lot of elephants but this is a particularly pleasant and calming shot. Mom is named Shanthi, baby Kandula. They live at the Smithsonians's National Zoological Park in Washington, DC.

Remember Indian 'phants have small ears, African 'phants have big ears.

Dagney  Friday Sep 5 01:19 PM


Is there any backstory on this one? I seem to remeber a story about an elephant birth in the past few months, but I can't find it anywhere.


Undertoad  Friday Sep 5 01:32 PM

I don't think so... the caption information didn't have anything much.

Dagney  Friday Sep 5 01:39 PM

Thanks anyway!


daniwong  Friday Sep 5 01:52 PM

Can I just say aaaaawwwwww! How cute is this picture!!!

lhand  Friday Sep 5 02:01 PM

And as the tank slowly filled with water....

Is it just me, or does it look like they're drowning these elephants?

Beletseri  Friday Sep 5 02:39 PM

It looks to me like the dome part of the top of the head gets bigger proportionally in the mature elephant. Does this mean its brain grows relatively larger or is that padding? Usually in mammals the young ones have proportionally large heads relative to bodies which is one of those things that make us think all baby mammals are cute.

juju  Friday Sep 5 03:17 PM

It looks like you're right. According to this link:<blockquote>Interestingly, the growth and development of the elephant's brain is similar to that of mans. Both the elephant and man are born with small brain masses. The mass of the new-born elephant's brain is 35% of that of the adult, while Mans is 26%. Thus, there is considerable growth and development as the calf grows up. As the mass of the brain increases, so does the learning ability of young elephants.</blockquote>Interestingly, our own brains are thought to be large in relation to our body as a result of our ancestors learning to walk upright. The opening in our pubic bone had to be smaller to in order to maintain our new center of gravity, and our babies had to be born with underdeveloped brains in order to fit through it. This, of course, freed the babies' brain to grow much larger than it was previously able to.

Completly unrelated, but I find it interesting, anyway.

xoxoxoBruce  Friday Sep 5 05:21 PM

Remember Indian 'phants have small ears, African 'phants have big ears.
Isn't that big ears and bigger ears. I have a tough time using the words small and elephants together.

elSicomoro  Friday Sep 5 05:48 PM

Eh, Tony...Kandula is a boy.

xoxoxoBruce  Friday Sep 5 06:23 PM

C'mon, way too young for a sex change.

Torrere  Friday Sep 5 06:57 PM

Unfortunately, trying to force babies with big heads through small holes is dangerous. This is why, through history, so many women have died during childbirth.

Griff  Friday Sep 5 06:59 PM

Originally posted by sycamore
Eh, Tony...Kandula is a boy.
Just more biased unfair reporting from Tony.

Undertoad  Friday Sep 5 09:32 PM

If AFP can't get this right what else do they get wrong?

xoxoxoBruce  Friday Sep 5 10:24 PM

Originally posted by Torrere
Unfortunately, trying to force babies with big heads through small holes is dangerous. This is why, through history, so many women have died during childbirth.
That being true, I wonder how some Cellarites got squose.

Beletseri  Saturday Sep 6 11:10 AM

I was born after 3 days of labor with a red eye and a lopsided head. No permanent damage but I'm glad I wasn't my mom and I'm glad I don't remember being born.

Leah  Sunday Sep 7 06:31 PM

Just logged on, and you have made me Monday morning. Thank you. Luv the elephants.

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