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   Undertoad  Monday Jan 26 05:02 PM

1/26/2004: Undeveloped conjoined twin



Conjoined twin, one-month-old Rebeca Martinez, lies in a hospital crib. Rebeca Martinez was born in mid-December at a hospital in Santo Domingo with the head of an undeveloped twin attached to the top of her skull, facing upward. The infant is otherwise healthy but her brain cannot develop normally unless the undeveloped head is removed, said Dr. Santiago Hazim, medical director at the CURE International Center for Orthopedic Specialties, where the surgery is tentatively set for February 6 or 7 in the Dominican Republic. The baby girl was born with one of the world's rarest birth defects, caused when a conjoined twin fails to develop in the womb.



Sun_Sparkz  Monday Jan 26 06:57 PM

wow. Nature is cruel sometimes. I hope the surgery is successful.



xoxoxoBruce  Monday Jan 26 06:58 PM

Well, I should think it would be easier than 2 live twins.



Torrere  Tuesday Jan 27 01:08 AM

I wonder what life would have been like for that kid had her brains developed.

Incredibly smart? Social outcast (duh)? Truly bickering with herself? Really, really strong neck?



wolf  Tuesday Jan 27 01:26 AM

Do you think she'll want to be a school nurse when she grows up?



glatt  Tuesday Jan 27 10:14 AM

Did you ever notice how you only see these kinds of conjoined twins in third world countries? Think it has anything to do with the standard ultrasound tests done in first world countries and the widespread availability of abortion clinics?



Pie  Tuesday Jan 27 10:17 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by glatt
Did you ever notice how you only see these kinds of conjoined twins in third world countries? Think it has anything to do with the standard ultrasound tests done in first world countries and the widespread availability of abortion clinics?
It also has something to do with the higher concentrations of environmental toxins (pesticides, heavy metals, etc) present in most third world countries. The EPA actually does something for us, folks.

A clean environment is a "normal good" -- you get what you pay for (and what you can afford).

- Pie


FelinesAreFine  Tuesday Jan 27 10:10 PM

I'm just going to pray that the procedure will turn out fine and little Rebeca will have no complications.



quzah  Wednesday Jan 28 01:40 AM

Aren't these the ones that just died? I saw on the news that they tried seperating a pair recently who both died. Maybe different ones though.

Quzah.



FelinesAreFine  Wednesday Jan 28 05:58 AM

I don't know. I'll have to look into it. But I sure hope not! I kills me to even think that she didn't survive the procedure.



FelinesAreFine  Wednesday Jan 28 06:06 AM

I'm a twin. I can't imagine being conjoined, but I can't imagine not being a twin either. I don't even want to even think about what life would be like without my sister. [shudder]



xoxoxoBruce  Wednesday Jan 28 09:03 PM

I just read in the paper today, sociologists claim the closest relationships are identical twins. More than mother/child, father/child, siblings, etc. I would imagine fraternal twins run a close second.



FelinesAreFine  Wednesday Jan 28 09:53 PM

Out of my 2 brothers and 7 sisters (my father was a busy man) my twin sister is my favorit sibling. My mom only had me and my twin and another girl a year later. Dad of course, moved on.




gossard187  Wednesday Jan 28 11:38 PM

Very sad. Though the "strong neck" comment made me think of this:



Serk  Thursday Jan 29 12:52 AM

For those concerned that the surgery has already been tried, and that Rebeca has died, I did a little googling:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,2791138a12,00.html

Seems they haven't attempted the surgery yet, they're going to try to do it next month (February)...



quzah  Thursday Jan 29 02:18 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Serk
For those concerned that the surgery has already been tried, and that Rebeca has died, I did a little googling:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,2791138a12,00.html

Seems they haven't attempted the surgery yet, they're going to try to do it next month (February)...
It was a different pair that I was thinking of. The two were connected via the side some how. Both died. It was on the news about a week ago if I recall correctly.

Quzah.


Undertoad  Wednesday Feb 4 07:29 PM



The original photo didn't show how developed the other "head" is. The operation is on Friday.



Nothing But Net  Wednesday Feb 4 10:46 PM

Why are they even attempting this operation?

Haven't they heard that two heads are better than one?

Or does that only apply to blowjobs?



Jacque Strapp  Thursday Feb 5 02:39 PM

I have read that when the kid is nursing, the mouth on the other head moves. Creepy.



dar512  Saturday Feb 7 12:24 AM

The operation is over and the baby is doing very well. More to be found here.



Nothing But Net  Saturday Feb 7 12:26 AM

"Is the head dead, yet?"

Since all is well with the survivor, we can start making jokes now, right?

"Did they have to use eightceps when you were born?"



crunchnasty  Saturday Feb 7 03:12 AM

Reminds Me of Chang, The Two Headed Man



Nothing But Net  Saturday Feb 7 03:49 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by crunchnasty
Reminds Me of Chang, The Two Headed Man
From what I recall, if it's Chang and Eng (the original Siamese Twins) you're talking about, they had two of everything. Their wives were sisters.

The mind boggles...


xoxoxoBruce  Saturday Feb 7 07:55 AM

Quote:
Since all is well with the survivor, we can start making jokes now, right?
Try to head off anything in poor taste.


psybear  Saturday Feb 7 10:01 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Nothing But Net
"Is the head dead, yet?"

Since all is well with the survivor, we can start making jokes now, right?

"Did they have to use eightceps when you were born?"
The child has now died, so I suggest that you stop with the jokes and show a bit of respect.


Gina  Saturday Feb 7 11:29 AM

I feel so bad. Rebeca is dead. I prayed for her but she still died.



wolf  Saturday Feb 7 11:41 AM

::internal conflict rising:: ... must ... not ... post ... response ... calculated ... to ... make ... newbie ... question ... faith .....



elSicomoro  Saturday Feb 7 02:57 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by psybear
The child has now died, so I suggest that you stop with the jokes and show a bit of respect.
It's sad that she died...she just couldn't keep her head together.


Beletseri  Saturday Feb 7 03:00 PM

Okay, here's what I read that was creepy - they needed to get the surgery done pretty fast because the other brain was growing faster then the one attached to the whole baby. I really hope neither child was very self aware (beyond the normal for a baby that is anyway).



xoxoxoBruce  Saturday Feb 7 05:05 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by psybear


The child has now died, so I suggest that you stop with the jokes and show a bit of respect.
Welcome to the Cellar Psybear. I was pretty shocked, went they jumped in at the end of the news to say she had died, after they had been saying how well she was doing. But as Gina (Welcome Gina) can explain, she's in heaven now, and doesn't need respect from mere mortals. All that's here, is the empty shipping container.


plthijinx  Saturday Feb 7 08:15 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by quzah

It was a different pair that I was thinking of. The two were connected via the side some how. Both died. It was on the news about a week ago if I recall correctly.

Quzah.
i think your refering to the female twins from Iran? yeah they died unfortunately. the twins here in this thread should have made an attempt to come to the medical center here in houston. a good team they are. sorry to hear about their demise.

edit: i tried googling the story but to no avail. i think the surgery was attempted in singapor or japan and took more than 20-24 hours with several teams of doctors/nurses. a noble attempt for a good cause that had a terrible ending.


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