Undertoad Wednesday Feb 11 12:30 PM
FileNotFound Wednesday Feb 11 12:36 PM
How do you make a hoarfrost?
lumberjim Wednesday Feb 11 12:48 PM
no!......how do you make hoarfrost?
you dump her dead body in a frozen lake!
Undertoad Wednesday Feb 11 12:59 PM
There ya go. I was waiting for the regular answer don't pay her, but this will do.
lumberjim Wednesday Feb 11 01:32 PM
that pic looks more like some kind of wierd board game.
e unibus plurum Wednesday Feb 11 02:32 PM
ahhh... rimes with whore
MachineyBear Wednesday Feb 11 06:12 PM
not necessarily "rhymes" but homonyms
xoxoxoBruce Wednesday Feb 11 08:07 PM
Yeah, I married one of them. Nice picture, UT.
Elspode Thursday Feb 12 12:57 AM
axlrosen Thursday Feb 12 02:43 PM
Hmm... if that's a hole in the net, why are the dangling strands pointing toward the center of the hole, and not down?
glatt Thursday Feb 12 02:53 PM
Griff Thursday Feb 12 02:55 PM
Happy Monkey Thursday Feb 12 03:00 PM
Maybe it broke while freezing?
doc Thursday Feb 12 04:58 PM
Creative use of scissors
xoxoxoBruce Thursday Feb 12 10:04 PM
The threads are probably coated with resin or plastic.
noodles Tuesday Mar 9 10:54 AM
Re: 2/11/2004: Hoarfrost
Mr Undertoad, do excuse for my being pushy, but i do have a request to make of u.
Undertoad Tuesday Mar 9 11:03 AM
My best answer: I don't know! It's certainly not part of the common experience, because most of America doesn't have freezing conditions that often.
lumberjim Tuesday Mar 9 11:05 AM
oddly enough, i have the answer to that question. I know it seems incredible, as the question posed would seem to be unquantifiable, but it just so happens, that it was a question that was included in the y2K US census. I have a copy right here. Let's see.........yup, here it is: question 192: "have you ever heard the word 'hoarfrost'?" official result: 27,932,882.33.
lumberjim Tuesday Mar 9 11:08 AM
oh yeah, welcome, noodles. we already have a "mrnoodle".... are you two related?
wolf Tuesday Mar 9 11:23 AM
Re: Re: 2/11/2004: Hoarfrost
I had heard it before. There is a piece of artwork that I had seen as a child called "Hoarfrost" and learned the word then.
Some of us have quite extensive vocabularies, even if we don't use them all the time. "Fuck" is such a versatile word, u know?
noodles Tuesday Mar 9 11:25 AM
lumberjim Tuesday Mar 9 11:28 AM
loud and clear, noodles. now. your moniker. a self effacing racial slur?
wolf Tuesday Mar 9 11:34 AM
People learning languages in a university setting often learn words not in common usage in the countries where the language is most commonly spoken. It's in the textbook, so they learn it. The question becomes ... how did such an obscure word end up in the textbook to begin with? Is it to keep other textbook manufacturers from plagarizing? "Hey, you used hoarfrost! That's my obscure word!! I'm suing!!"
Happy Monkey Tuesday Mar 9 12:14 PM
I'd heard the word, but wasn't certain of the exact definition, other than "some kind of frost."
Pi Tuesday Mar 9 12:57 PM
I'm not that good in english (it's the 4th of 6 languages I learned), but maybe that's why I just knew what it means when I read the word... Maybe I saw it some where during a lesson, can't remember...
Beestie Tuesday Mar 9 01:31 PM
Oh, and here's a blurb on hoarfrost that tells what it is and how it forms but didn't really answer my other question of where the word came from.
edited to add 2nd paragraph and link. 1st paragraph unchanged.
lumberjim Tuesday Mar 9 01:46 PM
wolf Tuesday Mar 9 01:57 PM
According to these guys the origin is Old English, Old High German, and Icelandic, and the meaning was something like "brightness of the sky" ... hoar describes the quality of light of the frost.
Beestie Tuesday Mar 9 02:19 PM
Thanks Wolf!! What an interesting site. I just read the whole Best Buy receipt checking story, browsed the moon phases and some other neat things.
jaguar Tuesday Mar 9 03:20 PM
wolf - fuck yea!
xoxoxoBruce Tuesday Mar 9 08:47 PM
I knew what it was. Probably because I'm attuned to any words that sound like they might be dirty. I look them up right away.
richlevy Tuesday Mar 9 09:11 PM
No entry found for asshat.
Uryoces Tuesday Mar 9 10:25 PM
I've heard of it before, seen it a few times. It does form once in a while at southern edge of Puget Sound where my parents live. It does get a bit misty/freezy at times. I tell you, cold and damp is worse than very cold.
noodles Tuesday Mar 9 11:45 PM
what does that official result mean? Does that mean 27,932,882,33 know the word in question, or do not know? Or u may be kind enough to supply me with a link. I do need statistics, coz i am now struggling with a paper on western reader response for english translations from chinese poetry.
And if it so happens that u are interested in chinese poetry, please go to the Entertainment Section of our cellar. i just posted a poem by Mao Zedong, the late President of China. Comments and evaluation are welcome.
lumberjim Wednesday Mar 10 12:38 AM
That, and my dog ate the link to those statistics. It was the only link there, too. sorry.
I read that poem this morning, and I like it. I think I liked the literal, choppy translation better, though. It was more metaphoric, and direct. In our poetry, ryhmes are optional, but effective. Imagery is more powerful still.
noodles Wednesday Mar 10 12:59 AM
lumberjim, i suspect u misunderstood me, but i may be wrong. english is not my native tongue, and i sometimes cannot succeed getting my idea across, but i never meant to be sarcastic, though, as luck would have it, the reader may well feel that way. sorry for my poor style.
lumberjim Wednesday Mar 10 01:22 AM
ah. right. i though you were deadpan asking me for my stats because you knew very well that i made it all up. deadpan means "with no laughter in your face" or "sraight faced" ...meaning to say or do something funny, but with a serious face, just to make it more funny. the slang was a couple of quotes from a scene in the movie "Princess Bride" where two sworsmen parry. more metaphors
noodles Wednesday Mar 10 03:01 AM
Wow! quotes from your movie, swordsmen parrying! Bet you never expected my wild interpretations, eh?
wolf Wednesday Mar 10 03:10 AM
In language acquisition, practice makes imperfect.
noodles Wednesday Mar 10 03:26 AM
Undertoad Wednesday Mar 10 07:30 AM
But if you can say "rules and grammar that impede rather than facilitate our linguistic competence", you are a very good student.
xoxoxoBruce Wednesday Mar 10 07:24 PM
Noodles, if you really need statistics, don't rely on LumberJim.
lumberjim Wednesday Mar 10 07:27 PM
hush, bruce. he's new, and doesn't know that i'm a fraud yet. you are violating the prime directive. let him make his own discoveries.
mrnoodle Wednesday Mar 10 10:51 PM
Although no one has ever seen us together, noodles and I are, in fact, two separate people. It's easily proven with one observation.
noodles Thursday Mar 11 12:00 AM
xoxoxoBruce Thursday Mar 11 12:36 AM
noodles Thursday Mar 11 01:22 AM
i didn't wish you harm
xoxoxoBruce Thursday Mar 11 06:08 PM
Pidgin will fool,
wolf Thursday Mar 11 09:05 PM
warch Thursday Mar 11 09:16 PM
Ive heard of hoarfrost from hanging out with Canadians in the hinterlands. I always thought there was an old man's hoary grey hair description connection there...