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   Undertoad  Wednesday Mar 10 11:29 AM

3/10/2004: Tiger Woods' unique tee-off



The richest man in the world is not Tiger Woods; it's the sultan of Dubai, who constructed an island in the Arabian Gulf so that he could contruct an amazing awesome modern hotel, as high as the Eiffel Tower and shaped like a huge sail.



The Burj Al Arab Hotel has a heloport two-thirds of the way up, and that's where Tiger took his playful tee shots into the Gulf, from a height of about 1000 feet.



I would imagine it's nice to be the sultan; and I would imagine it's nice to be the greatest golfer of all time. We can only look at amazing pictures like this, and imagine.



noodles  Wednesday Mar 10 12:01 PM

real constructions? looks like models. And the golfer, fair play, or air play? Money makes man mad. mmmmmmmmmmmmm



glatt  Wednesday Mar 10 12:10 PM

The view of the slums in that last picture is really nice. I know, they aren't slums, but they are eysores. I think the Sultan needs to do a neighborhood beutification project, so he can have something nice to look at. He can afford it.



stlbob  Wednesday Mar 10 12:35 PM

This place is pretty impressive. Check out the following links:
http://www.jumeirahinternational.com/about_us/
http://www.burj-al-arab.com/



Kitsune  Wednesday Mar 10 01:39 PM

Hmm... if I stay there one night on the 11th of May it'll run me:

$811.59/night

Not bad, not bad. I wonder if they put a little mint on your pillow?



wolf  Wednesday Mar 10 01:41 PM

I should think that they would put a little Rolex on your pillow for that rate.



Kitsune  Wednesday Mar 10 01:43 PM

That's nothing: the Delux twin is $2898.55/night.

For the price of a decent car, you can stay there a week and relax.

"One of the Big Rooms" at Disney's Grand Floridian Resort comes close at $2450/night during peak season.

...but this Forbe's article details the most expensive room in the world: one at the The Mansion at MGM Grand for a mere $5000/night.

But at the world's most expensive hotel, The Mansion at the MGM Grand, the $5,000 price tag is simply for the room. Meals and alcohol are charged separately. What guests are getting for their money is plenty of space--the villas range from 2,400 to 12,000 square feet--as well as original Picassos on the walls, and the prestige that comes with being able to afford a room there.



glatt  Wednesday Mar 10 02:10 PM

The most expensive hotel I ever stayed in (on my own dime) was $250 a night. It was "The Inn at Sunrise Point" just north of Camden, Maine. Damn, it was nice. Very posh. We only stayed two nights. Had our own cottage on a beach. Breakfast was a sort of home fries with chunks of lobster meat. And fresh berries too.



Undertoad  Wednesday Mar 10 02:24 PM

Well, if you make reservations make sure your passport doesn't carry any Israeli stamps. Dubai, like many Arab countries, will not even let you in if you've merely visited Israel.



funkykule  Wednesday Mar 10 02:54 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by glatt
The view of the slums in that last picture is really nice. I know, they aren't slums, but they are eysores. I think the Sultan needs to do a neighborhood beutification project, so he can have something nice to look at. He can afford it.
Gee whiss like you'd better get your priorities right or you'll never make a sheik!
Well you have to realise that the sheiks don't really have all that much spare cash to spend on those luxuries.
You see they really really REALLY need hotels built in the sea, or at the top of mountains. All those people pestering them about the thousands of pakistani workers and their awful conditions...no wonder they need some serious "me time"!

The night I went there I went to the roof of my building and thought I was high from lack of sleep as I was seeing a stairway to heaven...but no such luck.
I was informed that the sheik of that emirate decided one day that he'd like a hotel RIGHT ON TOP OF THIS BIG ASS MOUNTAIN for his international friends(not for use for us common folks by the way) There wasn't so much as a road on it before he came along. Now there's a huge hotel with big security and a really long seriously windy highway (The lights on the road were my stairway).

Now don't tell me thats not money spent for the common good.


Leah  Wednesday Mar 10 04:54 PM

I'm going to marry that Sultan of Dubai one day. I could easily live like that



stlbob  Wednesday Mar 10 05:38 PM

I wonder how far Tiger's ball would have traveled? Someone smarter than I could probably figure it. We'd only need the height, given by Undertoad at 1000ft, Tiger's normal driving distance, assume no wind, hmmmmm. Sounds like too much work for me. Bet the ball went at least 1000 feet, eh?

Imagine the bounce!

Probably wound up in the sand trap ....



stlbob  Wednesday Mar 10 05:40 PM

Then again, water trap



xoxoxoBruce  Wednesday Mar 10 06:53 PM

I wonder how much Woods got for playing in the Sultan's golf tournament?



novice  Wednesday Mar 10 08:08 PM

This joint is, apparently, the only seven star hotel in the world open to the general non-jewish public. The pool in the background is part of a massive water park called the Wild Wadi. It has some of the highest, longest rides in the world. In order to get to the start of the rides you sit in a large tube and water jets propel you up ramps. No climbing.
We were allowed into the hotel for a looky-lou after paying 100 Dirham for which we received a redeemable coupon valid at the stores inside.
Dubai is far and away the best place for Western tourists. The laws are the same as in any muslim country but much less rigidly enforced. It's common to see arab businessmen in town to avail themselves of cheap liqor and russian prostitutes. The man usually cracks on folks too drunk to walk or gettin' it on (in public) but anything else is fine.
The York hotel, affectionately known as the 'four floors of whores', will have 200 to 300 girls working at any given time. Or so they tell me.



Nothing But Net  Wednesday Mar 10 09:27 PM

Somebody's going to get some yardage out of this stunt.



paranoid  Thursday Mar 11 03:20 AM

Re: 3/10/2004: Tiger Woods' unique tee-off

Quote:
Originally posted by Undertoad
I would imagine it's nice to be the sultan; and I would imagine it's nice to be the greatest golfer of all time. We can only look at amazing pictures like this, and imagine.
I would imagine it's much better to be smart and well-read. He can build a huge-ass hotel in the desert, so what? Last month I've read a couple interesting books, listened to a couple of interesting lectures and learn a lot new stuff. And who is better off now?


jaguar  Thursday Mar 11 03:33 AM

I won't ask how you know that novice =)
He's right about dubai though, I know a few expats that have done stints over there. Earn a lot but everything is so damn expensive. From memory the presidential suite is $10k per night or so.

Most expensive I've done is about $600, though I've done $400 or so at the one attached to KL Airport on numerous occasions, usually because I can't be stuffed taking the express into the city and dealing with all the crap for a night.
I hope they've upgraded the place since coz last I went there was nowhere you could jack in a laptop which bit some serious ass. Particulary in comparison to 4-head showers and king+ beds.



Torrere  Thursday Mar 11 04:45 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by stlbob
I wonder how far Tiger's ball would have traveled? Someone smarter than I could probably figure it. We'd only need the height, given by Undertoad at 1000ft, Tiger's normal driving distance, assume no wind, hmmmmm. Sounds like too much work for me. Bet the ball went at least 1000 feet, eh?
Nope. That would be complicated. It's easier to take the normal velocity of his golf balls after being struck by the club and their angle respective to the ground.

According to The Physics of the Golf Swing, Tiger Woods' shots usually travel at 180 miles per hour, or 80.46 meters per second. 12 degrees is apparently the typical angle for golfers. The vertical component of the velocity of his golf ball would be 80.46sin(12), or 16.72 meters per second. This means that the ball rises another 14 meters and gives it 1.7 seconds before it starts to fall.

If the ball were simply placed in the air at 319 meters, it would take 8.06 seconds to hit the ground.

2 * distance = gravity * time squared

The horizontal component, 80.46 meters * sin(12), is 78.7 meters per second.

78.7 m/s * (8.1 s + 1.7 s) = 771.3 meters (half a mile) before the ball will splash into the ocean - assuming no air resistance. That'd be one mighty splash.


I surely didn't make any more errors, but if I did I can count on you to correct me.

[edit: I did mess up. When the ball returns to 1000 ft above the surface, it's already going 16.72 m/s - fixed.]


noodles  Thursday Mar 11 11:31 AM

i cannot afford to prove or disapprove your calculations. The fact is that it is a picture, and someone pasted it here.

more golfers, more golf widows.



ladysycamore  Thursday Mar 11 01:09 PM

Re: Re: 3/10/2004: Tiger Woods' unique tee-off

Quote:
:Originally posted by Undertoad
I would imagine it's nice to be the sultan; and I would imagine it's nice to be the greatest golfer of all time. We can only look at amazing pictures like this, and imagine.
Quote:
Originally posted by paranoid

I would imagine it's much better to be smart and well-read.
According to what standards? I know of plenty of people who would love to be in a position to be as rich as a Sultan (oh, and they are smart and well-read as well).

Quote:
He can build a huge-ass hotel in the desert, so what? Last month I've read a couple interesting books, listened to a couple of interesting lectures and learn a lot new stuff. And who is better off now?
Yeah, who IS better? Someone who boasts that they are better? Hmmmmm.....


xoxoxoBruce  Thursday Mar 11 06:03 PM

Re: Re: 3/10/2004: Tiger Woods' unique tee-off

Quote:
Originally posted by paranoid

I would imagine it's much better to be smart and well-read. He can build a huge-ass hotel in the desert, so what? Last month I've read a couple interesting books, listened to a couple of interesting lectures and learn a lot new stuff. And who is better off now?
Wouldn't it be nice to be fed skinned grapes and have a pedicure while you read those books?


Griff  Thursday Mar 11 07:52 PM

Thing is the Sultan has to live in the mid-east, that takes a lot of the fun outa being rich. Tiger has the better part... except he has to play golf all the time. I'll take being a regular Joe in the good old USA thanks.



CharlieG  Friday Mar 12 11:14 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Torrere


Nope. That would be complicated. ...snip...

- assuming no air resistance. ..snip...

I surely didn't make any more errors, but if I did I can count on you to correct me.

...snip...
Yeah, and it's even worse than you think - because of course we can't discount air resistance, and even stranger with a golf ball - LIFT. All those dimples? They create lift due to the fairly large amount of spin on the ball - you loose some velocity (due to drag), but gain lift, keeping it off the ground longer

Ugh


Torrere  Friday Mar 12 03:46 PM

And howinthehell are we going to get the drag coefficient?

We could find the air pressure. We already know the height above sea level (but - would this ball be falling far enough that we would need differential equations?), and we could find the temperature and weather that day (or we could approximate). The dimples will also make finding the cross-sectional area of the golf ball a pain, right?

I don't even want to think about lift - at least not until/if we can get air resistance squared away.



xoxoxoBruce  Friday Mar 12 07:19 PM

Christ, do you guys do everything the hard way?
Bribe the Concierge.



stlbob  Friday Mar 12 08:56 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by stlbob
I wonder how far Tiger's ball would have traveled?
Amazing isn't it? Make a small comment and boom, the math geeks pop outta the woodwork!



Troubleshooter  Friday Mar 12 09:18 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Torrere
And howinthehell are we going to get the drag coefficient?

We could find the air pressure. We already know the height above sea level (but - would this ball be falling far enough that we would need differential equations?), and we could find the temperature and weather that day (or we could approximate). The dimples will also make finding the cross-sectional area of the golf ball a pain, right?

I don't even want to think about lift - at least not until/if we can get air resistance squared away.
I'm sure the manufacturer could provide lift and drag numbers.


quzah  Saturday Mar 13 09:33 AM

Quote:
The richest man in the world is not Tiger Woods; it's the sultan of Dubai
Really? I think Mr. Gates would dispute that. Or is he just the richest in America. And Tiger? Not a chance. Not even close enough for consideration.

Quzah.


Undertoad  Saturday Mar 13 09:45 AM

Looks like you're right - I'm not sure where I got that "fact" from...



funkykule  Sunday Mar 14 06:11 AM

Re: 3/10/2004: Tiger Woods' unique tee-off

Quote:
Originally posted by Undertoad


The richest man in the world is not Tiger Woods; it's the sultan of Dubai,
I don't mean to offend anybody by pointing this out but there is no Sultan of Dubai. His title is Sheikh MAKTOUM BIN RASHID AL-MAKTOUM.
http://www.worldwhoswho.com/public/v..._ARAB_EMIRATES[/url]

There is,however, a Sultan of Brunei
http://www.worldwhoswho.com/public/v...country=BRUNEI[/url] [url]


xoxoxoBruce  Sunday Mar 14 08:12 AM

Yeah, UT knew that, but now homeland security will be scrutinizing you, instead of him. He's very clever that way.



Nothing But Net  Sunday Mar 14 08:33 AM

That blonde bimbo that Tiger Woods is engaged to is so wrong for him. If he hooked up with Minnie Driver, now there's a match! Wouldn't the wedding announcements be great. Woods weds Driver. They could even name their first child Putter!



richlevy  Sunday Mar 14 12:46 PM

Re: Re: 3/10/2004: Tiger Woods' unique tee-off

Quote:
Originally posted by funkykule


There is,however, a Sultan of Brunei
http://www.worldwhoswho.com/public/v...country=BRUNEI
Is that the same as the King of Brulee


mrputter  Tuesday Feb 22 06:56 PM

<STRONG>2004</STRONG>: Tiger Woods
<IMG SRC="http://cellar.org/2004/woodsteeoff.jpg" />

<STRONG>2005</STRONG>: Roger Federer &amp; Andre Agassi
<IMG SRC="http://www.trichotomy.ca/images/burj_korat_ul_midhrab.jpg" />

<STRONG>2006</STRONG>: Michael Schumacher?

(more from the tennis match <A HREF="http://www.atptennis.com/en/newsandscores/news/2005/dubai_helipad.asp">here</A>)



xoxoxoBruce  Tuesday Feb 22 07:12 PM

I should think it would be windy up there?
The photos look like computer generated pictures.



richlevy  Tuesday Feb 22 08:06 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Undertoad
Well, if you make reservations make sure your passport doesn't carry any Israeli stamps. Dubai, like many Arab countries, will not even let you in if you've merely visited Israel.
Which is why you have (used to have?) the option of having a separate sheet stamped. At least that was how they did it 25 years ago.


BigV  Wednesday Feb 23 08:05 PM

So there's this guy,

Quote:
Originally Posted by noodles
i--snip--, more golf widows.
and he comes to work one morning only to find the boss has hired a new secretary. She's a babe, and, fortunately, for the purposes of this joke, his office opens directly toward her work area. He spends the whole morning getting nothing done, he can't take his eyes off this woman. Well, at lunchtime he decides to offer to make her feel welcome, and invites her to join him for lunch. They get to the restaurant and it soon becomes clear that the attraction is mutual. The question changes from what to order? to your place or mine? Hers, just around the corner.

They spend the afternoon feeding other appetites and the man looks up and sees it's getting dark. Frantically he rushes to get dressed and she follows him to the door. He bolts down the steps and starts up the sidewalk and then comes back to her yard and does something strange. He walks onto the grass, gets down and rolls back and forth on the lawn a couple of times, then gets back up and hurries up the block.

When he gets home, the litle woman is waiting in the doorway, arms crossed, tapping her foot in "that way".

"Uh-oh" the man thinks. "The office--".

"Said you were out all afternoon" she interrupts.

Busted. Total surrender is his only option at this point, and he comes clean and tells the whole truth: new secretary, lunch, "dessert" at her place, everything.

He waits for the verdict.

As she listens to the story her toe never breaks rhythm, but she does uncross her arms. She deliberately reaches out her hand to his shoulder and carefully picks a single blade of grass from his shirt.

"You lying sack of shit--You've been GOLFING AGAIN!"


BigV  Friday Feb 25 07:44 PM

Fine. I'll just take my joke and go home.

Here.
/stalks off, pouting/



wolf  Saturday Feb 26 01:47 AM

The joke was quite funny. It spoke for itself, it needed no additional commentary ...



footfootfoot  Sunday Feb 27 01:08 AM

Just a dang minute! That ain't Tiger Woods neither. It's our own beloved NBN.


I gotta get a new NBN pic...



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