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   Undertoad  Saturday May 1 12:30 PM

5/1/2004: Skin gun



No, it's art: the above gun is made out of skin wrapped over a gun-shaped frame.

But not just any skin; it's the human skin of the actual artist, Dutch woman Joanneke Meester. Actual skin, from her abdomen, taken under general anesthesia: a flap of 20 centimeters (8 inches) long and four centimeters (1.6 inches) high.

"It took me about an hour to make (the pistol) and at a certain point the edge started drying up and you could see a little blood on the skin, congealed," she said.

"If everyone made a pistol from their own skin, I think they would think twice about using a gun. I think there would be less violence in the world," she said. "But it's not that easy. Violence will always exist."

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wolf  Saturday May 1 12:42 PM

She had the skin removed under general anethesia.

That is NOT suffering for her art.

Back in MY day ... she woulda flayed her own flesh with a rusty safety razor blade, photographed the whole event, and made a gallery show of it.

At least she could have made an actual size gun, instead of a crude looking Barbie gun.



zippyt  Saturday May 1 12:43 PM

That is FUCKING GROSS!!!!!





Brigliadore  Saturday May 1 12:45 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by zippyt
That is FUCKING GROSS!!!!!


My sentiments exactly.


jaguar  Saturday May 1 12:52 PM

what the fuck, I don't get her point. If I made a pistol out of my own skin I'd be asking wolf to take me in for a while.



wolf  Saturday May 1 01:09 PM

Here in Pennsylvania I can do that without your asking ... and for that kind of behavior, too (some states won't commit on self-mutilation).



Undertoad  Saturday May 1 02:06 PM

Oops oops oops I was wrong wolf, it was done under a local.

Still, your point stands



xoxoxoBruce  Saturday May 1 02:09 PM

It's hard to imagine what kind of crap you'd have to come up with, not to qualify as "art".



jinx  Saturday May 1 02:11 PM

She should have spent a little time in the sun first.... that's one pastey gun.



jinx  Saturday May 1 02:15 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce
It's hard to imagine what kind of crap you'd have to come up with, not to qualify as "art".
Something crappier than crap I guess.


Troubleshooter  Saturday May 1 05:40 PM

Maybe we could convince her to sculpt one out of her grey matter. She doesn't appear to be using it anyway.



ItrouReor  Saturday May 1 08:53 PM

So...........what happens next ? I get some bad visions involving tabasco sauce and a hot frying pan.



perth  Saturday May 1 09:02 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by ItrouReor
So...........what happens next ? I get some bad visions involving tabasco sauce and a hot frying pan.
And so ItrouReor makes a spectacular entrance, and Perth pukes.

Welcome to the Cellar, ItrouReor.


SteveDallas  Saturday May 1 09:47 PM

Nice one, ItrouReor!!



DanaC  Sunday May 2 08:41 AM

Hahaha. Good show ItrouReor! Welcome to the cellar.




YellowBolt  Sunday May 2 06:32 PM

Wow, what a crazy lady. But we've all got to have some crazies in our life, eh? Taken from the article:

Quote:
The art world is no stranger to controversy. A transvestite potter beat the creators of a pair of bronze sex dolls to land Britain's Turner art prize in 2003. A pickled sheep and a Virgin Mary figure made of elephant dung have also won the prize.
Eh hum. I hope I don't insult anyone here, but contemporary artists have issues.


DanaC  Sunday May 2 06:34 PM

Could I point to Van Gogh and say they've never been the most stable peeps in town



jdbutler  Monday May 3 10:10 AM

MMmmmmm! Perogi's!



mrfurd  Wednesday May 3 02:17 PM

are those freckles on the handle?



xoxoxoBruce  Wednesday May 3 07:17 PM

Hi mrfurd, maybe they were belly piercings.



chrisinhouston  Wednesday May 3 09:02 PM

True story.

Once I was hunting white fronted geese and a big one flew by and I stood up and fired a round from my trusty 10 gauge double barrel (using 3XBB shot), an off brand old Spanish model gun. Down it came with a thud and a few moments passed and then the mate flew around in a circle calling with a slow kerhonk, kerhonk, kerhonk. I felt so bad, like "what had I done?" and I stood ther alone in the field with my gun, my dog and the dead goose, and I was so sad for this now widowed bird. So it all came naturally and I aimed and pulled the rear trigger and sunk that one too. No more sadness.

Made a damn good dinner out of the whole mess.



Flint  Wednesday May 3 10:13 PM

Quote:
"If everyone made a pistol from their own skin, I think they would think twice about using a gun."
:::speechless:::


John  Thursday May 4 07:54 AM




MaggieL  Thursday May 4 12:49 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Troubleshooter
She doesn't appear to be using it anyway.
Or doesn't have any. It's difficult to understand the behavior of hoplopobes sometimes. But there has been some insightful theories.


footfootfoot  Friday May 5 01:21 PM

"I bet if everyone owned a pistol, they'd think twice before trying to make a gun out of someone's skin," is what I think she meant to say.

English can be a complicated language for foreign speakers to get their tenses and possesives, articles and pronouns all sorted out...



mitheral  Friday May 5 03:24 PM

The article is missing, Anyone who read it care to weigh in on whether the reason for the surgery was the gun or whether the artist just decided to do something "useful" with the waste from a tummy tuck?



xoxoxoBruce  Friday May 5 07:01 PM

Damifino.



rkzenrage  Friday May 5 07:24 PM

Quote:
"If everyone made a pistol from their own skin, I think they would think twice about using a gun."
I'm thinkin' that may have the opposite effect on me.


jinx  Friday May 5 07:30 PM

Yeah, that's what I was thinking.... if I go to all that trouble I'm gonna use the mf'er - a lot. Of course, since it's tiny and doesn't actually work, what difference does it make if I use it or not?



Griff  Friday May 5 08:06 PM

I think she meant that if everyone had a pistol nobody would try to make stuff from their skin.



xoxoxoBruce  Friday May 5 11:19 PM

I got, if you went through all that healing you'd think twice about shooting.

But seriously, what are the chances of a person that would do this, saying anything profound?



seakdivers  Saturday May 6 12:22 AM

I would like to shoot anybody stupid enough to think they were making a point with a gun replica made of their own flesh.



MaggieL  Saturday May 6 12:03 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
I got, if you went through all that healing you'd think twice about shooting.
You should think twice before shooting anyway.


xoxoxoBruce  Saturday May 6 12:57 PM

Hey, what happened to "shoot first and ask questions later"?



rkzenrage  Saturday May 6 01:12 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by MaggieL
You should think twice before shooting anyway.
Thats how you get shot first.


wolf  Saturday May 6 01:58 PM

Not really. The average drug dealer shoot-out involves absolutely no thinking, and a 15:1 shot to hit ratio. And the hit is of an uninvolved innocent bystander.

If Maggie's shooting you, you're going to be dead.



MaggieL  Saturday May 6 02:18 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by rkzenrage
Thats how you get shot first.
I said "think twice" not "think slow". If you're armed and maintaining situational awareness, you should have been thinking all along. By the time you're drawing from concealment, you should be pretty much done with reflection and ready to act.

I sure hope to have a hit ratio better than 15:1...there's only 12 rounds in the magazine. ;-) With my carry piece I usually practice with a half-size Q target at seven to fifteen yards and I'm satisfied with the results. Obviously stress fire is a whole different environment.

In another thread, I mentioned a comment made by the photog who took our pics for the Philly Weekly article. He asked a gangbanger why their aim was so bad....the answer was "everybody's high and nobody knows how to shoot".


mitheral  Sunday May 14 12:50 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by MaggieL
In another thread, I mentioned a comment made by the photog who took our pics for the Philly Weekly article. He asked a gangbanger why their aim was so bad....the answer was "everybody's high and nobody knows how to shoot".
Didn't the NRA have a program where they supplied repeat offenders with range time and instruction on the theory that less innocent bystanders would be injured if the gang bangers could hit who they wanted rather than just spraying down range?


rkzenrage  Sunday May 14 12:58 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by mitheral
Didn't the NRA have a program where they supplied repeat offenders with range time and instruction on the theory that less innocent bystanders would be injured if the gang bangers could hit who they wanted rather than just spraying down range?
If I am correct, been a while since I read it, that was a chapter (club) not The NRA.
You can't hold the whole organization responsible for every decision some hick burg uses the local chapter for.
This is a common way that the national press, especially those intent on mud-slinging or out-right lying work... it is a non-fact that sounds good because you can make it sound like it was NRA sponsored.
There was one where very young children were gifted guns in CA by a chapter and it was all over that the NRA was giving infants guns to shoot in their cribs. Idiots.


rkzenrage  Sunday May 14 01:08 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by MaggieL
I said "think twice" not "think slow". If you're armed and maintaining situational awareness, you should have been thinking all along. By the time you're drawing from concealment, you should be pretty much done with reflection and ready to act.

I sure hope to have a hit ratio better than 15:1...there's only 12 rounds in the magazine. ;-) With my carry piece I usually practice with a half-size Q target at seven to fifteen yards and I'm satisfied with the results. Obviously stress fire is a whole different environment.

In another thread, I mentioned a comment made by the photog who took our pics for the Philly Weekly article. He asked a gangbanger why their aim was so bad....the answer was "everybody's high and nobody knows how to shoot".
Semantics/inflection... not an easy thing to determine, "think" in this context.
Especially for someone who has been shooting as long as I have been, and as much.
If I am in an environment where I am ready to shoot there is a kind-of simplicity and instinct that takes over. It is thought, but when I see what I need to shoot and that there is nothing else in the way, I shoot. There is no second thought. That was as a professional hunter for many years, you think twice, you miss the shot & wound the animal, torture them instead of a clean cull. Something that, you may not believe, I still carry each with me.
If there was someone in my home and my wife was next to me and I saw that it was not my son or a family member, shoot. One thought, not family... then shoot.
There just is not time for anything else.
Not going into how or where I grew-up, because I don't assume anyone has or has not seen what I have seen or worse. But, I know how it affected me.
If they are in my home unannounced and they don't live there, they are there to kill us, period. End of story. End of discussion. End of possibilities. So, I just don't see where the second thought comes into play.


funkykule  Sunday May 14 09:44 AM

so surprise birthday parties are out of the question then?



rkzenrage  Sunday May 14 10:07 AM

Good one.
Just make sure my wife's out front...



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