11/6/2004: Visual display of the electoral divide

Is the US a horribly divided country? Should panicky Kerry voters in "red" states move to "blue" states? Not at all.

We've all seen the red-blue state depiction... ad infinitum. Fans of Tufte's work on visual display of quantitative information may enjoy the differences between that approach, and the above.

The above shows us an entirely different view of the country, but one that's more meaningful to the character of the country than the standard red-blue. The standard shows us red, if the divide is 51% red, 49% blue, and vice-versa. The above shows that divide exactly as it is.

This guy has produced the same "purple" county-by-county, too large to link here directly, but it's a beautiful thing.

Compare those maps to to this one:



This one is being used by R folks to suggest that the red-blue divide in the country is deeper than it is, and that the country is actually much more red than blue. Not the case; it's merely the wrong way to display the results. The above map tells you nothing because it biases for geographic area taken up in an election that divided urbanites against suburbanites and ruralites. The blue areas look small, but the appearance is deceiving; it's only because the people there are concentrated into a small area.

This gentleman has corrected for that problem, and produced cartograms, where the visual size of the counties is adjusted for their population size. That produces a very strange-looking graphic indeed, but it's actually more accurate in many senses than the red-blue county map.

Facinating stuff, the last maps you linked to are interesting indeed. However, I don't see what this has to do with divisions in the community.

There should be a push for more maps like these to be used to show how the country voted. It shows the greys between straight up R or D. Just because one of them won a state or a community doesn't mean EVERYONE in that area voted that way. Also, these maps over time could better show how the country's tendencies shift and move. I'd love to see something like this animated with data spanning 10 or 20 years or so. These are good maps. Very good.

The funny thing about the cartogram is that it looks like a standing eagle with outstretched wings.

Sound bites for the eyes? Eye bites?

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce Sound bites for the eyes? Eye bites?

My History teacher in high school was also the French teacher. In addition to her bifurcated educational responsbilities, she was also the Staff weirdo. She claimed, for example, that she had worked her way through college as a prostitute, and she insisted that everyone call her Madame Schwartz...even those not taking French.

One of her favorite historical anecdotes was this: she claimed the French army lost to the Russians because they didn't know how to crap in the snow, and so froze their anuses and died from the subsequent infections.

The cartograms are difficult to read. I really like the linked county by county purple map- too bad that he can't do things like very pale red for rural Oklahoma and really intense blue for New York City, so we can get a sense of the vote strength.

As it is, any graphic representation on a map will overestimate Republican strength because at this time Democrats are concentrated in the cities and cities are a LOT more dense than rural areas.

the cartograms reminded me of the homunculus (hoe-munn-Q-luss), a representation of our bodies based on the number of sensory neurons in the brain for each area. Cool.

Based on how much time we spend thinking about it, I'm suprised the naughty bits aren't larger....

and there are a fair number of sensory neurons there too ...

The homunculus representation just represents the quantity, not the quality!

This one looks sorta like a fish...

Based on how much time we spend thinking about it, I'm suprised the naughty bits aren't larger....

That's because the homunculus LabRat posted is the motor cortex representation, not the somatosensory one.

There's more information about those maps at Wikipedia . And another version here.

I like Cyber Wolf's idea about making an animated version for the last 20 years or so. The results would be very interesting.

Maybe next election cycle we can get a map of voting by street address.

Okay, so it's in his left hand or what?

Here is another wa of looking at it:
Urban Archipelago
With any luck it'll catch on.

Good article. A little strident on religion, which will probably turn a few people off, though I personally agree.

orcinculs penis

I wonder how a whale penis would show up on the whale equivalent of a somatosensory homunculus.

Regarding the red/blue maps...

I agree that the oversimple party choice color / state outline (or county outline for that matter) presents a greatly distorted impression that our nation is waaaay more "red" than "blue". But still controlling for that by using the same state by state map and using the same color scheme, I found a very interesting observation with respect to Federal Tax distributions.

I googled up "donor states federal taxes" and found several links that contained maps that bore a striking resemblance to the electoral map.

Try it for yourself and see. Several theories come to mind explaining the similarities.

Yours--

Aw c'mon BigV, you already did it, post the damn link(s).
And welcome to the Cellar.

Hello Bruce,

Thanks for the welcome. I refrained from posting the links not because I am coy, but because the "rules" warn that first posts containing links get forwarded to the twilight zone, and I wished to avoid that fate. My apologies for the obliqueness of the post.

Here are some sample images I found. (I hope)

*whew*

Top image, red states=beggar states, blue states=donor states for federal tax dollars

bottom image red states=beggar states, green states=donor states, gray states=neutral ($1 collected:$1 received)

I think that the top image is the 2000 election, not a beggar/donor map.

That second map looks like where the rich people live. With the exception of Virginia, which is where the rich people live who know how to get tax breaks.

Negative. Here is the link containing the map image.

http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_b...ates_feed.html

And the second one.

http://melvinfrohike.dailykos.com/st...1/15/12918/784

Yours,

I wouldn't put the midwest in the "rich people haven" category. In fact, at least one rich person from Illinois (Ditka) didn't run against Obama in part because he'd have to move his legal residence from Florida.

One of the links Kos points to explains it:

Or the first paragraph (you only covered the second and third).

Well, just look at the damn map.

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Indeed.

My first post in the cellar, ever. Post #24. *snif* [/nostalgia]