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   Undertoad  Tuesday Dec 7 12:27 PM

12/7/2004: 2004 Turner Prize winner



Congrats to Jeremy Deller, pictured. He's the winner of the 2004 Turner Prize for art, for his work "The History of the World", also pictured.



warch  Tuesday Dec 7 12:33 PM

You like that brass bands foci, dont cha? It all makes sense.



Undertoad  Tuesday Dec 7 12:42 PM

I do I do!

I wish we had a legend to it, and a better shot which shows the entire thing.



Undertoad  Tuesday Dec 7 12:49 PM

Well it turns out that the official caption has let us down as usual. It's cruelly inaccurate. His prize is actually for a piece called Memory Bucket. The History of the World is an earlier work, which he explains here.

Quote:
Iíve been asked to talk about The History of the World which is the big wall drawing in front of you. Thereís a quote by Lenin which is "everything is connected to everything else" and that could almost be the title of this work cos itís how my brain works in a lot of ways how I try to connect things up, and itís how I work as an artist in that respect.

I did a work called Acid Brass which was when I got a brass band to play Acid House music. And this diagram explains it in the way that I thought that brass bands and Acid House music actually have a lot in common even though on the face of it they have nothing in common whatsoever. Theyíre both these forms of folk and popular music, theyíre both very strong, had a very strong following in the north of England, or still do. And also they have a connection in the middle with trade unions, with the media hysteria that surrounded Acid House music and drug culture, and also with the minersí strike. So they meet in the middle really with civil unrest as you can see.

I have to say that it was one of the most pleasant experiences as an artist to work with a brass band, to hang out with those guys and to go to the concerts with them which were just great social occasions. And thatís something that I try to bring out in my work: a sense of enjoyment of what I do.



Troubleshooter  Tuesday Dec 7 12:49 PM

I wonder how much of my tax money went to pay for that?

Thanks NEA!



jaguar  Tuesday Dec 7 12:51 PM

Never before did I see the link between warehouse free parties and privitization, the tories should capitalise on this, there's an entire generation of arts students waiting to be converted.



garnet  Tuesday Dec 7 01:01 PM

I like it! Even if you sit back and look at it without paying attention to the words, it makes a really cool visual image.



glatt  Tuesday Dec 7 01:02 PM

Looks kind of like something you might see in Famiy Circus



Cyber Wolf  Tuesday Dec 7 01:05 PM

I'm actually more interested in hearing that brass band playing acid house, seeing how I do enjoy both the sound of brass bands and acid house. Do any of those links go to a recording or sampling of that?



jaguar  Tuesday Dec 7 01:19 PM

Quote:
I'm actually more interested in hearing that brass band playing acid house, seeing how I do enjoy both the sound of brass bands and acid house. Do any of those links go to a recording or sampling of that?
Wait till you hear Acid Folk.
God I love London, take any two music groups, no matter how obscure and somewhere, in some little back alley there will be an acid fusion of the two. Probably an entire section.

TS - Turner Prize, Tate Modern - London, UK. - None - Was my tax money.


Troubleshooter  Tuesday Dec 7 01:39 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by jaguar
TS - Rurner Prize, Tate Modern - London, UK. - None - Was my tax money.
Ah, thanks.


wolf  Tuesday Dec 7 01:46 PM

Artwork funded by American Taxpayers must include religious iconography and at least one bodily effluvient.



jaguar  Tuesday Dec 7 01:46 PM

Does anyone else not get the link between Drum'n Bass and melancholy? I can't think of anything more pumped. What does the dotted nature of the line mean? Or I'm looking at this in too much detail.



Troubleshooter  Tuesday Dec 7 01:49 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by wolf
Artwork funded by American Taxpayers must include religious iconography and at least one bodily effluvient.
Doesn't religious iconography already contain effluvium?


Elspode  Tuesday Dec 7 02:55 PM

Acid House Country...Alabama 3 , they of the Sopranos theme, "Woke Up This Morning". One of my favorite bands, bizarre though the concept of Acid House Country may sound.



jaguar  Tuesday Dec 7 03:54 PM

Quote:
Acid House Country
awesome


Elspode  Tuesday Dec 7 05:20 PM

Aren't they just? In fact, I believe I'm going to go home and put on their CDs tonight (no pizza delivery! yay!)



warch  Tuesday Dec 7 05:32 PM

brass bands via melacholy leads roundhouse to kraftwerk. I find this interesting.



warch  Tuesday Dec 7 05:45 PM

I read a bit more about Jeremy and it seems he assumes the roll of collaborative director for his work. He won for a video thing done while working in San Antonio called Memory Bucket. (The San Antonio space gets local and fed funding so TS can be outraged afterall!) As I read it, Memory Bucket, kinda like Hitchens documentary on Texasization but with poetry, looks at politics and history and religion. Specifically focusing on the Branch Dividians as Bush supporters, or something. See, I need a diagram.



warch  Tuesday Dec 7 05:53 PM

Jonathon Jones of the Guardian is a Deller fan:

Quote:
The other artists here present product. Deller invites you into a conversation. He is, however, a real artist, a genuine and subtle exponent of Robert Rauschenberg's desire to act in the space between art and life. Deller is the only artist in this show, and one of the few of his generation, anywhere, who has a real vision. His work enriches lives - it has certainly enriched mine. I can't say that of anything else in this year's Turner prize.



warch  Tuesday Dec 7 06:17 PM

Oooh. One more tid bit then I'll leave youse alone. Artpace in San Antonio- I was just assuming they were hooked into fed funds as we all are, but sounds like they manage the bulk of their kick-ass residency program through their private foundation funding (via the contemporary art loving Pace picante sauce heiress).



elSicomoro  Tuesday Dec 7 07:21 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyber Wolf
I'm actually more interested in hearing that brass band playing acid house, seeing how I do enjoy both the sound of brass bands and acid house. Do any of those links go to a recording or sampling of that?
Here you go...you'll have to register and use IE, but it's worth it.


chrisinhouston  Wednesday Dec 8 09:42 AM

Here's more, including audio and vidio links:
http://www.tate.org.uk/britain/turnerprize/deller.shtm

Seems he was awarded 25,000 pounds thanks to the support and sonsorship of Gordon's Gin



jaguar  Wednesday Dec 8 09:55 AM

I'm sure Gordon's gin has helped many artists along the way.



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