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   Undertoad  Wednesday Feb 9 03:37 PM

2/9/2005: Iced house

People in ice houses shouldn't throw salt, is what I always say. there have been a few shots of frozen cars that came along, but this one from axlrosen shows a few houses in Hull (MA) that got a similar freeze treatment.

Now the physics question of the day. Would this act as a good insulation? would it be an improvement over regular insulation? If you were iced in, who would you call? Or would you just stay inside?

Leah  Wednesday Feb 9 04:03 PM

That looks so cool or should I say unreal. I've never seen such a thing happen, mostly here in sunny Sydney (not so much today, it's raining).

glatt  Wednesday Feb 9 04:17 PM

I doubt it would be very good insulation. Snow is a decent insulator, but ice doesn't have the air pockets snow has.

That can't be good for the houses. Imagine when all that ice melts. Water will work its way in through every little crack in the sidings and shingles. Water stains are a minimum, and rot is a possibility if a lot of water gets into the walls.

It sure does look cool though. I wonder if that's a deck or a dock she is standing on? It looks like it could be a water-front home, and boats pull up to that gap in the railing.

garnet  Wednesday Feb 9 05:38 PM

Wow, it sure looks neat, like it belongs with Santa up at the North Pole. I'm certainly not envious of the person who lives there, though...

Elspode  Wednesday Feb 9 05:42 PM

I suddenly crave frosting...

Wombat  Wednesday Feb 9 07:42 PM

Adding an extra layer of any solid material will improve insulation. The problem is that in this case the solid material is really cold, so it will keep the house well insulated at a cold temperature. In other words, it will insulate the house from the warming effect from the sun.

Looks great though.

404Error  Wednesday Feb 9 09:15 PM

I agree with Glatt, it can't be very good for the house. The freezing water on the siding and roof shingles will expand and start tearing it all apart.

And I wonder how that person on the deck got out of the house in the first place.

xoxoxoBruce  Wednesday Feb 9 09:22 PM

And I wonder how that person on the deck got out of the house in the first place.
Chop, chop.
There has been a lot of this happening this winter all across the northern climes. Even where it isn't waterfront, freezing fog has been the culprit.

capnhowdy  Wednesday Feb 9 09:25 PM

Imagine the weight related stress on the house.......
If the ice is three inches thick, the roof alone would weigh about 36000 lbs.
Not to mention the ice on the walls themselves.
Unless frozen water weighs less than the fluid. Even so........that's a lot of stress.
What an icehole!

xoxoxoBruce  Wednesday Feb 9 09:43 PM

As long as it's frozen it's semi-self supporting like an exoskeleton. If the bottom melts first it can bring the whole weight on the house.

zippyt  Wednesday Feb 9 10:21 PM

Now that would be an interesting experement , spray water on the roof of a structure in a freezing climit and see just how much weight it could take -v- spraying the whole structure , and if there truely was a difference . You could predict a weight , but to see just what type structure could take what kind of abuce would be interesting
Some truck scales are tested with a hydrolic press to see the working life and repatability , they call it the module masher , i have seen it , BIG damn rig !!! I will see if i can dig up a link .

Guess  Wednesday Feb 9 10:25 PM

whoa!! I used to live there! we never used to have anything of this sort!

zippyt  Wednesday Feb 9 10:55 PM

Ok this is a lousy small pic , i will see if i can find a better one and more info ,

magilla  Thursday Feb 10 10:44 AM

Oh, for a little lime and a bottle of gin!

Wormfood  Thursday Feb 10 12:59 PM

That houses windows must have very good insulation or
the heater is broken down... I have never seen windows frosted like that.
But it looks cool.

Sweets  Thursday Feb 10 01:18 PM

grats on 1000 posts zippyt

I wondered the same thing, how do people get out of the house?

Oh, and I'm sure the Ice wold melt top side down, I think. I wonder what kind of damage happens when all the water spills into the cracks of the house that the Ice probably made?

Hajik  Thursday Feb 10 01:27 PM

The thing that would really suck is if the ice melted a little.. then refroze. That'll definatly mess up the house there. And if the house will freeze over in the first place than that is probably going to happen. Unless if gets Florida warm up here... which I doubt.

glatt  Thursday Feb 10 02:03 PM

An uncropped picture of the original post.
And another picture (scroll down)

These are ocean front homes. It's quite possible that the house in the IOD is an unheated summer residence. If so, the ice won't melt from interior heat. That's good. It's best for it to melt from the outside in and let the water run down the outside of the ice as it melts. Less damage that way.

In the seaside town of Hull, Polly Feinberg and Bob Platka said the storm made their oceanfront home feel like an igloo.

``All our windows on the north side are totally covered with salt water ice, and slush. It's totally caked on,'' Feinberg said. ``It makes the house dark, but opaque it's pretty eerie.''

Feinberg said their wind speed indicator clocked gusts at 70 mph.

``The whole house was vibrating,'' she said.

axlrosen  Thursday Feb 10 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by Sweets
I wondered the same thing, how do people get out of the house?
I would guess (a) she wasn't home at the time, and/or (b) the other side of the house (away from the ocean) isn't frozen.

AureliusVin  Sunday Feb 5 01:52 PM

A good, powerful hair dryer would do the trick I imagine.


mitheral  Monday Feb 6 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by Wormfood
That houses windows must have very good insulation or
the heater is broken down... I have never seen windows frosted like that.
But it looks cool.
I've had a running car ice over like that despite the big block under the hood and the heaters going full blast. Freezing rain can take the heat away way faster than the windows are heated by the furnace.

moonspider666  Monday Feb 6 05:43 PM


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