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   Undertoad  Wednesday Feb 16 07:04 PM

2/16/2005: Truck sold as consumer vehicle



It's supposed to be Hummer competition, this "Bad Boy Truck" -- if you want to play the vehicle size inflation game.

Quote:
For a base price of $225,000 nearly twice the Hummer H1 wagon's base price of $117,508 consumers can get a basic version of the 10-foot-tall Bad Boy that can drive through five feet of water, climb a 60-degree grade, tow six tons and keep rolling even with a quarter-sized hole in the tire's sidewall.
I don't want one. I don't think the local townships would be happy with me cutting up their roads.

full story


FloridaDragon  Wednesday Feb 16 07:44 PM

I agree, I don't want one either....well maybe that one time I had a hummer 2 think that I would get out of his way because he was bigger than my Jeep even though I had right of way .. I ignored him, he almost lost it off the road trying to not hit me then flipped the bird and ranted and raved for a while, kept putting on his blinker like I was going to pull over and "discuss" it with him ... that would have resulted in a discussion with my tire iron and if worse came to worse, my S&W 40 cal. ... so I continued to ignore him which pissed him off worse (good!)



Krackel  Wednesday Feb 16 10:00 PM

I heard about this truck on the radio, they said it can withstand nuclear, biological, chemical, attacks... or "NBC-safe".........no joke.......



xoxoxoBruce  Wednesday Feb 16 10:28 PM

Hey, welcome to the Cellar, Krackel.

They're way out of Hummer territory, they're competing with the Navistar XT Family. We had discussed that one at length in LJ's forum, but that's kaput.
Also the Grandad in this class the Mercedes-Benz Unimog in it's military iterations.



wolf  Wednesday Feb 16 10:37 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Krackel
I heard about this truck on the radio, they said it can withstand nuclear, biological, chemical, attacks... or "NBC-safe".........no joke.......
If that's true, this goes on my "I wan't one" list.


Happy Monkey  Wednesday Feb 16 11:21 PM

Most vehicles can (as long as the nuke isn't a direct hit, of course).

The occupants may not be so lucky.



JabberWokky  Thursday Feb 17 03:27 AM

The reason it's touted as NBC safe is because the military version of this vehicle is specifically outfitted for NBC usage. It runs at positive pressure, etc.

I highly doubt it would tear up streets anymore than a tow-truck would.



Elspode  Thursday Feb 17 02:46 PM

I presume that it has hardened electronics, then? Wouldn't matter if it was intact after a blast if EMP wiped out all the electrical devices.



mrnoodle  Thursday Feb 17 03:10 PM

I want one, but only if it comes with anti-personnel stuff on it. Like high voltage, tear gas ducts, and slits to shoot out of.

And I want neons.



undone  Thursday Feb 17 06:10 PM

I just want to know when they are going to start shipping them over to our guys in Iraq.



xoxoxoBruce  Thursday Feb 17 09:07 PM

Our guys in Iraq can't afford it.



404Error  Thursday Feb 17 11:46 PM

I'd consider getting one if they came in metalic blue.

...and undercoating and a decent sound system would be nice too.



Gromitspapa  Friday Feb 18 10:02 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
Hey, welcome to the Cellar, Krackel.

They're way out of Hummer territory, they're competing with the Navistar XT Family. We had discussed that one at length in LJ's forum, but that's kaput.
Also the Grandad in this class the Mercedes-Benz Unimog in it's military iterations.
Curious- what's LJ's forum and what's kaput?


Clodfobble  Friday Feb 18 10:18 PM

There's a user named Lumberjim, LJ for short, and he had his own forum here, basically just a subsection of threads that he started, but he stopped having as much free time to devote to us so his forum went away.



garnet  Monday Feb 21 03:52 PM

What a shame that a US car maker is wasting its resources developing another butt-ugly, gas-guzzling truck for rich people. With gas pushing $2.00 a gallon wouldn't it make more sense to work on making hybrid vehicles more affordable to the general public?



xoxoxoBruce  Monday Feb 21 04:58 PM

Hold on Garnet, before you whitewash, or in this case blackwash, the US Automobile Industry, twern't them.
This truck was developed as a working military vehicle. The guy in texas is buying them and outfitting them for Homeland Security applications.
As a possible profitable sideline he started another company that will trick out the same trucks for sale to individuals. They're optimistically hoping to sell 50 a year and it's likely most of those people would have need for a similar sized truck but desire and can afford a fancy one.
I think the number of people that buy one of these just for bragging rights is pretty small. A whole lot less than buy yachts.



Brown Thrasher  Monday Feb 21 05:02 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Krackel
I heard about this truck on the radio, they said it can withstand nuclear, biological, chemical, attacks... or "NBC-safe".........no joke.......

Does that mean it can withstand the new 50 caliber weapon; to be sold at your nearby wal-mart soon. I saw an exibition of this gun. It took this guy two shots at a thousand yards to shoot through a target which consisted of 2 inch steel. Bullet went right through the steel. He had never shot the gun previously. I'm not against a citizens rights to arms, but I do think this gun is taking it a little to far.... Unless you need to shoot a Humvee at a thousand yards. However, if it can withstand nuclear attacks; I'm really asking a dumb question.... Better get to work......North Korea, Iran, Syria. Just to name a few. Main concern of the government is the ability of terrorist to shoot down Jets taking off or landing at your local airport. I'm not sure of the company but you can legally purchace one of these weapons in the u.s today.


Troubleshooter  Monday Feb 21 05:05 PM

Regardless of the company, it's very difficult to regulate civvie to civvie sales of legal firearms, much less illegal sales.



Brown Thrasher  Monday Feb 21 05:14 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Troubleshooter
Regardless of the company, it's very difficult to regulate civvie to civvie sales of legal firearms, much less illegal sales.
I agree. It still scares me though. I know what my little 380 will do. This is a weapon that makes a m-16/ AK47 look like a pump B.B gun I had at 10........


Troubleshooter  Monday Feb 21 05:20 PM

One thing will keep too many of them out of most people's hands, price. They run about $7k.



xoxoxoBruce  Monday Feb 21 05:24 PM

The m-16 and ak-47(74) are designed for different scenarios.
The .50 took two shots to penetrate the steel? There are already weapons out there that will do it in one, so why worry about this one.



garnet  Monday Feb 21 07:16 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
Hold on Garnet, before you whitewash, or in this case blackwash, the US Automobile Industry, twern't them.
Point taken, Bruce. But the US auto industry HAS lagged behind Japanese and other makers in developing and producing hybrids. IMO, they deserve the blackwash regardless.


xoxoxoBruce  Monday Feb 21 07:30 PM

Yeah, ok.
I thought it was interesting that Car & Driver claims the Accord Hybrid is a better car in EVERY way except price, than the standard Accord.



CharlieG  Tuesday Feb 22 08:20 AM

Yep, the .50 cals as someone said, are 7K+, have NEVER been used in a crime (yeah, going to walk up with a 5+ ft long, 40 lb rifle), and you have to realize it's going to cost you something like $3 every time you pull the trigger

They are a rich mans toy. BTW The Barrett rifle (the one the Military uses) was developed for civilian use FIRST - the military saw them and said "hey, now that's a good idea", and started buying them



404Error  Tuesday Feb 22 09:14 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Troubleshooter
One thing will keep too many of them out of most people's hands, price. They run about $7k.
"Yeah, it's an .88 magnum, it shoots through schools!" (quote from a movie I don't remember the name of. Anybody?)

This new one by Barrett is half that price. Of course, I want one!

Quote:
Barrett M99 (Big Shot)
- Optical sight mount
- Air/Watertight carrying case
- Cleaning equipment
- Detachable bipod with adjustable legs
- Scope and Rings Priced Separately
- Retail Price $3,410.00



Troubleshooter  Tuesday Feb 22 10:26 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by 404Error
"Yeah, it's an .88 magnum, it shoots through schools!" (quote from a movie I don't remember the name of. Anybody?)
It's Joe Piscopo (who remembers him?) in Johnny Dangerously.

"You shouldn't hang me on a hook Johnny. My mother hung me on a hook once."


404Error  Tuesday Feb 22 10:41 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Troubleshooter
It's Joe Piscopo (who remembers him?) in Johnny Dangerously.

"You shouldn't hang me on a hook Johnny. My mother hung me on a hook once."
Oh yeah! Thanks, TS! That was bugging me cause I loved that movie. Now I gotta go rent it and watch it again.

*Piscopo shoots his partner while cleaning his gun, "Oh, sorry. Did I gitcha?" *


Brown Thrasher  Tuesday Feb 22 02:29 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
The m-16 and ak-47(74) are designed for different scenarios.
The .50 took two shots to penetrate the steel? There are already weapons out there that will do it in one, so why worry about this one.

Maybe, I mistated my point. The guy shooting the rifle took two shots to hit the target because he had never fired it before. The shot that hit the target wnt through the two inch steel plate. I don't know of any rifles out there that can shoot through a steel plate the size of a 5 gallon bucket at a thousand yards. Also, the weapons of anykind, that I am aware of that could do the same damage are not being sold legally. You are right about one thing the m-16 and ak-47 were meant to shoot people usually one at a time. they were not meant to shoot down airplanes. I think that the cost will keep any law abiding person from just having to have one. However, I'm not sure about hostiles foreign or otherwise that do have the means. I'm realy no more worried about this weapon than I am having another terrorist attack on our country.


xoxoxoBruce  Tuesday Feb 22 07:03 PM

I follow you, but terrorists aren't concerned about legal and to take down an airplane with a bullet would be damn near impossible. I can't think of anything you could hit that would cause a catastrophic failure on approach or takeoff.
It would scare the bejesus out of them though.



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