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   Undertoad  Tuesday Dec 6 09:39 AM

12/6/2005: Naked PETA protest



SeanAhern suggests this one, which IotD featured at least once back in the day, but it's been a while. Naked protest has always been an IotD feature so why not. It's PETA here, in a stunt they do rather often actually - if you scout for IotD shots like I do, I see em all the time, but if you don't, it's new to you.

The full story in this case is an interview with the lass above, in which she notes she's done this over 50 times.

"That's why we do it: to get media attention for PETA's causes. I didn't like standing outside naked in 30-degree weather -- it's absolutely crazy! But we did it for the animals."



LabRat  Tuesday Dec 6 09:46 AM

Yeah. She really looks like she doesn't like it.

prrrrrrrrrrr.



Sundae  Tuesday Dec 6 10:01 AM

Interesting to read that PETA aren't necessarily anti-hunting.

Most people I know agree some meat or animal protein in a diet is necessary, but hunting is a choice and undertaken almost solely for the pleasure of killing animals (please note - consensus of opinion - not my view).

I may even be interested enough to check out their official ideology now....

It may explain what a vegetarian is doing with a fox carcass at the Opera anyway.



mrnoodle  Tuesday Dec 6 10:26 AM

Sundae Girl, you should do a cellar search on PETA and hunting and animal rights and all that good stuff. The combined knowledge and opinion of the cellar oracle shines brighter than a 40W bulb -- nay, 1000 40W bulbs.



Trilby  Tuesday Dec 6 10:31 AM

Why don't we ever see naked dudes for PETA? I'd like to see some naked hunk all done up like a leopard or something.

She looks like a lost member of Josey and the PussyCats. Meow.



magilla  Tuesday Dec 6 11:47 AM

Hey!

Shouldn't this be a Friday IotD?

Chris



Elspode  Tuesday Dec 6 11:58 AM

Women have non-protruding genitalia, and are thus less offensive to the public as a group. Also, we are still a hugely patriarchal society, so babes are gonna be used as advertising every time.



Sundae  Tuesday Dec 6 01:41 PM

Perhaps if you sent Pinnewala Elephant Orphanage an idea for fundraising and some grey body paint they might just go for it??

Sorry, cheap joke - but click the link anyway, I've been there & they do a great job.



Wormfood  Tuesday Dec 6 03:37 PM

Ok,how many guys out there where clicking on that link in hope for
"better" pictures...



Perry Winkle  Tuesday Dec 6 03:38 PM

If PETA would put me in the cage with that bird then I'd sign up in a flash.



gerstle  Tuesday Dec 6 04:00 PM

"...but hunting is a choice and undertaken almost solely for the pleasure of killing animals (please note - consensus of opinion - not my view)."

whose consensus? I don't know if i agree with this...

I'm not a hunter myself, but i live in montana where hunting is a regular part of life and I see a lot of this first hand. 99% of the hunters i know (or have heard of) hunt for the meat. Do they enjoy shooting guns - killing animals included? Sure, most of them do. But, if you're hunting to have meat to enjoy and eat i still see this as much more respectful than those of us that get our meet from the grocery in a little package and have no knowledge of or connection to the animal it came from. I even know folks that enjoy shooting stuff so much that they spend all their time and money on guns; however, they won't take down an elk or a deer simply because they don't like the meat (personally, i think they're nuts for preferring beef).

Are there people who hunt simply for the trophy to hang on the wall and/or the "thrill of the hunt?" Sure, but these people are looked down upon by the hunting community as much as by non-hunters. For example, I've seen wanted posters around town for any information of who killed such and such animal illegally and left it. Hunters do not take that sort of thing lightly.



Karenv  Tuesday Dec 6 06:51 PM

I agree that it is more respectful to match wits with an animal, track it and hunt it than to buy meat in the prepackaged trays in the grocery store. In fact I think one is likely to eat less meat if they have to kill it. And I will bet that less gets wasted.

As for PETA, they kill all kinds of pets. Between 1998 and 2004 they killed 12,473 of the 15,661 animals they received in their Norfolk VA headquarters. That is a 79.6% kill rate with only 18.5% adopted. In 2000, when the Associated Press first noted PETA's Kervorkian-esque tendencies, PETA president Ingrid Newkirk complained that actually taking care of animals costs more than killing them. "We could become a no-kill shelter immediately," she admitted.

PETA kills animals. Because it has other financial priorities like fund raising.

And they are actually one of the chief terrorist groups in the country according to a friend who is a trained security consultant.

Check out http://www.petakillsanimals.com/



Griff  Tuesday Dec 6 06:52 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elspode
Women have non-protruding genitalia, and are thus less offensive to the public as a group. Also, we are still a hugely patriarchal society, so babes are gonna be used as advertising every time.
And naked guys are icky whilst naked babes are decidedly non-icky.


Trilby  Tuesday Dec 6 06:53 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elspode
Women have non-protruding genitalia, and are thus less offensive to the public as a group.
Speak for yourself!


Elspode  Tuesday Dec 6 08:02 PM

Brag, brag, brag. Where's the pictures, sez I.

You have my email address. I'm waiting.



Trilby  Tuesday Dec 6 10:02 PM

Els--is it possible that you are drunk?



Perry Winkle  Tuesday Dec 6 10:08 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brianna
Els--is it possible that you are drunk?
Naked womens, is naked womens. You never know what you're gonna get until you unwrap 'em. That's why naked womens is good.


zippyt  Tuesday Dec 6 10:39 PM

Naked womens, is naked womens. You never know what you're gonna get until you unwrap 'em. That's why naked womens is good.

OH that SOOOO needs to go on a t-shirt !!!!!!!



xoxoxoBruce  Tuesday Dec 6 11:49 PM

Methinks Lisa Franzetta is an attention whore.



Sundae  Wednesday Dec 7 05:46 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by gerstle
"...but hunting is a choice and undertaken almost solely for the pleasure of killing animals (please note - consensus of opinion - not my view)."

whose consensus? I don't know if i agree with this...
I was referring to most people I know, or more accurately most people I have discussed this with. Perhaps it's because in this country, hunting is often associated with fox hunting and hare coursing.

My personal views on hunting match yours.

I wouldn't want to hunt my own meat because I doubt I'd catch anything & would just end up cold & miserable. But if my meat consumption depended on it, I'd find some way of taking part.


footfootfoot  Wednesday Dec 7 07:34 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by zippyt
Naked womens, is naked womens. You never know what you're gonna get until you unwrap 'em. That's why naked womens is good.

OH that SOOOO needs to go on a t-shirt !!!!!!!
Large, 100% cotton. I'll take two.

And a coffee mug.

What the hell, I'll take the hat too.


magilla  Wednesday Dec 7 09:45 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Karenv
As for PETA, they kill all kinds of pets. Between 1998 and 2004 they killed 12,473 of the 15,661 animals they received in their Norfolk VA headquarters. That is a 79.6% kill rate with only 18.5% adopted. In 2000, when the Associated Press first noted PETA's Kervorkian-esque tendencies, PETA president Ingrid Newkirk complained that actually taking care of animals costs more than killing them. "We could become a no-kill shelter immediately," she admitted.

PETA kills animals. Because it has other financial priorities like fund raising.

And they are actually one of the chief terrorist groups in the country according to a friend who is a trained security consultant.

Check out http://www.petakillsanimals.com/
To give PETA their due, they take in a lot of animals who are just not going to survive, and they euthanize them. As a biologist who firmly believes in experimenting on animals, I am not the biggest cheerleader in the PETA fan club, but I do believe the animals need to be treated as humanely as possible and with dignity and respect. I don't like PETA's tactics (they destroy or vandalize personal property, and endanger peoples' lives) but they have helped in stopping the worst excesses of groups like the cosmetics industry, who were tormenting animals for no really good reason (using animals when they didn't have to, needlessly keeping animals in terrible conditions, that sort of thing).

Just remember that PETA is one of those "big tent" groups that pulls in anyone from well-meaning but ignorant people, fund-raising sharps, vegans, ovo-lactans, new-age crystal-power gurus, you name it. And folks like the young lady pictured above. "It's for the animals!" Kind of like "What about the children?!"

Chris


wolf  Wednesday Dec 7 10:23 AM

I think Avon dumped the bunnies long before PETA came on the scene. That was the work of a LOT of organizations involved in aminal welfare causes.

PETA just reaps the benefits of that.



Karenv  Wednesday Dec 7 04:13 PM

Well not only do they kill lots of animals, donated by people who expect that an animal rights group is a group that has a no-kill policy, but they fund terror groups like the Earth Liberation Front, the Animal Liberation Front, the arsonist Rodney Coronado ($75,000 in legal defense funds). No matter what ms. kitty cat says about not having a connection- their tax returns tell a different story.

http://www.activistcash.com/organiza...iew.cfm/oid/21

Look, I applaud people raising concerns about animal experimentation and inhumane treatment of animals. I think factory farms are an abomination and I try to eat only organic meat from small farms where I (or my food coop members) can talk to the farmers. But this group is beyond the pale.



capnhowdy  Wednesday Dec 7 05:39 PM

Looks to me as if the cruelty is directed at the bimb....I mean the young lady in the cage.
PETA sucks anyway. A very high profit non profit organization. Where the hell's Ted Nugent when you need him?



Griff  Wednesday Dec 7 06:24 PM

We were cracking on my sister-in-law for her 30 dollar per month auto payment to PETA. Pete says "It could go to a worse outfit". I asked, "Like who?" She says, "Al Queda."



wolf  Thursday Dec 8 01:23 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by capnhowdy
Where the hell's Ted Nugent when you need him?
He's busy. It's deer season.


capnhowdy  Thursday Dec 8 07:17 AM




xoxoxoBruce  Thursday Dec 8 09:39 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by magilla
To give PETA their due, they take in a lot of animals who are just not going to survive, and they euthanize them. ~~snip
The animals being killed and dropped in dumpsters were in perfect condition when they were killed, according to the vet they were picked up from and forensic examination.


capnhowdy  Friday Dec 9 08:19 AM

In PETA's dictionary:

Kill : cruelty

euthanize: compassionate

what a bunch of anal openings.



lawman  Friday Dec 9 05:34 PM

rather disappointing results from images.google:

http://images.google.com/images?q=%2...=Search+Images

I mean really, if you say you're gonna get nekkid for a cause...



richlevy  Saturday Dec 10 01:43 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by lawman
rather disappointing results from images.google:

http://images.google.com/images?q=%2...=Search+Images

I mean really, if you say you're gonna get nekkid for a cause...
Maybe Playboy will do a 'Women of PETA' spread for you.


footfootfoot  Saturday Dec 10 11:59 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Griff
We were cracking on my sister-in-law for her 30 dollar per month auto payment to PETA. Pete says "It could go to a worse outfit". I asked, "Like who?" She says, "Al Queda."
^5 to Pete! That is hilarious. (she was being sarcastic right? I hope)


SmurfAbuser  Sunday Dec 11 01:46 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Karenv
Be careful where you get your stats. I'm no PETA fan, but both ActivistCash.com and PETAKillsAnimals.com are sites run by the Center for Consumer Freedom. The Center for Consumer Freedom is funded by tobacco companies, the meat industry and the liquor companies. PETA is a pretty easy target for anyone, but these guys also go after the the CDC, HSUS, ASPCA and Mothers Agaisnt Drunk Driving, of which I am a proud member. The CCF's founder, Rick Berman, proudly states that his sole objective is to "kill the messenger"--basically, to get as nasty as possible with anyone who disparages the "work" of the fine companies who pay his huge salary. BTW, I believe the CCF (a nonprofit org) is currently under investigation by the IRS for all kinds wrongdoing regarding their non-profit status.

I can't comment on what they say about PETA because I don't know if its accurate, but they're full of shit when it comes to MADD. They're evil, and if I were you, I would consider the source and (and source's motives) before believing one word they say.


SmurfAbuser  Sunday Dec 11 03:06 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Karenv
Well not only do they kill lots of animals, donated by people who expect that an animal rights group is a group that has a no-kill policy, .
If you expect that any of the major animal rights groups has a "no-kill" policy, you haven't done your homework. Neither the HSUS nor the ASPCA is no-kill, either. Approximately 4 million cats and dogs are euthanized every year in the U.S.--there are simply too many of them. No-kill shelters look great on paper, but with huge numbers like that, they don't work. I volunteered at a county-run shelter for years. If a 10-year-old, agressive shepherd mix with health problems comes in, he is not going to get adopted. If 200 kittens come in in one week, they are all not going to get adopted, either. Sad but true, they will be euthanized when their five days are up, and the same probably holds true for the animals PETA, the HSUS and the ASPCA take in. It's not the shelter's fault, it's the fault of people who keep breeding animals and treat them like disposable objects.

Not to bum everybody out or get on a soapbox, but as someone who has been in the trenches, it's pretty easy to point fingers at those who are forced to do society's dirty work.


capnhowdy  Sunday Dec 11 08:34 AM

like I said.... they don't kill, they euthanize. In their stupid little world there's a major difference.



xoxoxoBruce  Sunday Dec 11 09:28 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmurfAbuser
snip~~ Sad but true, they will be euthanized when their five days are up, and the same probably holds true for the animals PETA, the HSUS and the ASPCA take in. ~~snip
Everything you say is true. BUT, PETA was picking up healthy animals, killing (euthanizing) them in the pick-up van and dropping them in dumpsters. This was a pair of PETA's home base workers.

The people that work for PETA are, for the most part, genuinely passionate about the welfare of the animals. They volunteer or work for little money to try to make a difference.
The problem is the organization is rotten at the core. The people at the top are about money, violence, imposing their views on everyone at any cost.
The warm and fuzzy save the puppies and kitties image they promote is a sham. The real agenda is to make everyone a vegetarian with no pets….no matter who gets hurt.


SmurfAbuser  Sunday Dec 11 12:15 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
Everything you say is true. BUT, PETA was picking up healthy animals, killing (euthanizing) them in the pick-up van and dropping them in dumpsters. This was a pair of PETA's home base workers.
Yeah, I did hear about that incident, and it's inexcusable. I'm not here to try to defend PETA (I don't have time for that!), but I highly doubt that it is their written policy to euthanize animals in vans and dump them dumpsters. They're not that stupid, nor in my opinion, are they all that evil. From my understanding it was two rogue workers acting on their own accord, for whatever bizarre reason.

Quote:
Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
The warm and fuzzy save the puppies and kitties image they promote is a sham. The real agenda is to make everyone a vegetarian with no pets….no matter who gets hurt.
The vegetarian thing is propably accurate, but not the pets part. They actually have a really helpful Web site about caring for cats and dogs that I've referred people to many times (HelpingAnimals.com). If they wanted to get rid of all pets, wouldn't they just be telling people to dump them by the side of road or take them to a shelter where they'll be euthanized? They wouldn't be giving advice about the best kinds of food to give your cat or training tips for your dog.

I agree there's problems with PETA, and there are also problems at the HSUS, your local shelter, whatever. You can't just tell them "don't euthanize that cute little puppy!"--unless, of course, you're willing to take in that puppy and every other one like it.


wolf  Sunday Dec 11 12:19 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmurfAbuser
From my understanding it was two rogue workers acting on their own accord, for whatever bizarre reason.
The "rogue workers" excuse is getting a little thin.


SmurfAbuser  Sunday Dec 11 12:37 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by capnhowdy
like I said.... they don't kill, they euthanize. In their stupid little world there's a major difference.
Actually, there is a major difference. I've seen healthy animals being euthanized at my shelter first-hand. These animals were euthanized not because the staff enjoyed killing them, but because there was nowhere to put them and no one willing to adopt them. Hunters kill because it's a sport and is fun for them. The meat industry kills animals because they're supplying food and making money from it.

Shelter workers who euthanize animals don't have fun, produce anything, or make any money. They go home, cry, and drink a six-pack because of what they are forced to do. It's not the same.

(Sorry guys, I tried to stay off my soapbox, but I can't help myself with this particular subject )


Happy Monkey  Sunday Dec 11 04:06 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by wolf
The "rogue workers" excuse is getting a little thin.
What are the other incidents?


footfootfoot  Sunday Dec 11 10:03 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by wolf
The "rogue workers" excuse is getting a little thin.
C'mon Wolf, all the kids are using it.

I thought I posted this earlier today. must be some rogue bytes...


footfootfoot  Sunday Dec 11 10:44 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmurfAbuser
Actually, there is a major difference. I've seen healthy animals being euthanized at my shelter first-hand. These animals were euthanized not because the staff enjoyed killing them, but because there was nowhere to put them and no one willing to adopt them. Hunters kill because it's a sport and is fun for them. The meat industry kills animals because they're supplying food and making money from it.

Shelter workers who euthanize animals don't have fun, produce anything, or make any money. They go home, cry, and drink a six-pack because of what they are forced to do. It's not the same.

(Sorry guys, I tried to stay off my soapbox, but I can't help myself with this particular subject )
Euthanasia: 1. The action of inducing the painless death of a person for reasons assumed to be merciful. 2. an easy or painless death. [greek:eu-, good + thanatos, death]

The relative glee of the life taker doesn't really enter into it.
You have painted hunters with a rather broad brush, a number of whom I know personally who do not fit into your categorization.

I have seen some farms where I'd consdier it euthanasia to slaughter the animals rather than let them live they way they do, I find it hard to see how killing a "healthy" animal is euthanasia, unless it is to prevent it from becoming an unhealthy, miserable living skeleton. Still, it is hard to tell if an animal "wants" to be euthanized. Generally, (except birds, I'm told) most animals don't just give up when the chips are down, and would rather keep going until they can't go anymore.

It takes a mighty righteous position to decide that you are killing an animal for its own good. Unlike a hunter let's say, who is killing an animal for the hunter's own good.

Anyway, I'm not really sure where I stand on this whole thing other than to be cautious about how much anthropomorphism gets added to the soup.


zippyt  Monday Dec 12 12:55 AM

I have a problem with folks killing for the act of killing , I have seen dudes with a pickup truck FULL of catfish , " Look at all the fish I cought !!!"
These FUCK STICKS will just DUMP the fish and BITCH about the STINK in their pick up beds !!!!

I hunt and fish , I practice Catch and relese when I fish , and I EAT what I kill ( when i shoot some a critter ) !!!

To do anything else would dishoner the life of the game anaminal !!!!

Now i have killed in self defence ,, 2 dogs that were TO aggressive , and came after me , I didn't relesh the kills , but I lived and their over aggresive selfs died .



fargon  Monday Dec 12 11:37 PM

peta = People-Eating-Tasty-Animals



piperatthegates2  Tuesday Dec 13 12:52 PM

Join the Protest!

I think I want to join the protest - but I want her on my team...



capnhowdy  Tuesday Dec 13 02:50 PM

I wouldn't want to join the protest, but I'd enjoy a cage match with her. Show that bitch what cruelty really is.

Welcome to the Cellar, patg2.



Crimson Ghost  Tuesday Jan 3 05:38 AM

If you ever get the chance, watch the "PETA" episode of "Penn & Teller's "BULLSHIT"".
Raised some VERY interesting points about PETA.
Taken from PETAs own information.
Video of PETAs CEO stating that animals needed to be euthanized.
Ect....



Ralph  Thursday Jan 5 12:09 PM

You only have to glance at that divine pussy cat and man knows a woman was created by angels



xoxoxoBruce  Friday Jan 6 12:35 AM

or the Devil.



Ralph  Sunday Jan 8 04:05 PM

Who cares?



Griff  Sunday Jan 8 09:03 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crimson Ghost
If you ever get the chance, watch the "PETA" episode of "Penn & Teller's "BULLSHIT"".
Raised some VERY interesting points about PETA.
Taken from PETAs own information.
Video of PETAs CEO stating that animals needed to be euthanized.
Ect....
Any idea which season it was? I'm thinking of getting it from netflix.


xoxoxoBruce  Sunday Jan 8 11:51 PM

Welcome to the Cellar, Ity.
Please, please, please, when you post a link like that, label it NSFW.
A lot of people come here from their work computers and clicking on that could get them fired.



Crimson Ghost  Saturday Jan 14 12:59 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Griff
Any idea which season it was? I'm thinking of getting it from netflix.
Not positive, but I think it was second season.


richlevy  Saturday Jan 14 02:01 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
Welcome to the Cellar, Ity.
Please, please, please, when you post a link like that, label it NSFW.
A lot of people come here from their work computers and clicking on that could get them fired.
Did you have a heart-stopping moment there, Bruce?


xoxoxoBruce  Saturday Jan 14 02:25 PM

No, I don't come to the Cellar from work. Many do, however, and can caught up in "company policy" quicker than shit........uh. poop.



AureliusVin  Saturday Jan 21 04:24 PM

All this talk about PETA makes me hungry, anyone for burgers?



fargon  Saturday Jan 21 11:16 PM

People Eating Tasty Animals

How bout roast suckling pig, YUM double yum



lawman  Monday Jan 23 12:39 PM

Bruce/UT why not delete Ity's post? it's obvious it's merely a pathetic attempt to drive traffic to his adult site....

Posters like that p1ss me off.



Undertoad  Monday Jan 23 12:43 PM

Aw, yer right. Missed that one. It's gone now.



xoxoxoBruce  Monday Jan 23 08:25 PM

WTF...I missed a porn link? Damn.



moonspider666  Thursday Feb 2 11:00 PM

P.eople
E.ating
T.asty
A.nimals



CharlieG  Tuesday Feb 14 10:38 AM

Turns out the womans name is Jabeen Akhtar, and se works for the US EPA, but claims there is no conflict of intrest and that her volunteer work, as a private citizen, for PETA, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, is entirely separate from her job with the federal government bureau.

What we need is a "yeah, right" smiley



xoxoxoBruce  Tuesday Feb 14 11:31 AM

We have one.



mlandman  Tuesday Feb 14 01:30 PM

all peta comments aside

First of all, most PETA members are a bunch of radical freaks that make me respect animal-rights movements in general LESS than before PETA existed. I do support animal rights but PETA's targetting of children is downright freaking diabolical, I've seen the handouts they give. VERY scary and not appropriate for children. I cannot stand PETA.

That's not the point of this post.

The point of this post is: Looking at this picture, I will never, EVER understand gay men. How can you look at that, and not want to lick it, is completely beyond me.

THAT is the point of this post.



Happy Monkey  Tuesday Feb 14 01:51 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by mlandman
The point of this post is: Looking at this picture, I will never, EVER understand gay men. How can you look at that, and not want to lick it, is completely beyond me.
a) You could ask the same of straight women.
b) The makeup would probably taste nasty.
c) It would probably still be worth it.


mlandman  Tuesday Feb 14 02:23 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Happy Monkey
a) You could ask the same of straight women.
+ =


Quote:
Originally Posted by Happy Monkey
b) The makeup would probably taste nasty.
c) It would probably still be worth it.



Uryoces  Wednesday Feb 15 12:41 PM

Ok, see now, way back when there was this poll on our fantasy boink. I said Chetara of the Thundercats, and everyone thought that was just plain weird. Now a naked, tiger-striped chick shows up and it's suddenly ok. What gives?



glatt  Wednesday Feb 15 12:59 PM

I don't know how I missed that thread, but thanks for pointing it out. I think you came out of that thread pretty well, considering.



Your reply here?

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