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TheMercenary 05-10-2007 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bluecuracao (Post 342355)
Looks like you're confusing me with someone else.

Well, ummmm, actually no, I wasn't.

bluecuracao 05-10-2007 09:22 PM

So, ummmm, you're just insulting me with crass crap for nothing. How sweet.

monster 05-10-2007 09:56 PM

You didn't answer the question, Merc..... You agree that kids should be allowed room to think for themselves, yet you don't allow that freedom for your kids. Which id your personalities makes the compromise in the real world?

btw, if you like the petrol bomb analogy, let's follow through.....you said
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I guess I could just coat their hands with superglue on a gasoline filled bottle and let them learn what it is like to get burned....
But once you've superglued their hands to that can, will they go for the matches or the acetone and nail files? Or did you assume they'd go for the matches and light one for them to save them the effort?

rkzenrage 05-11-2007 12:38 AM

Merc, you have been asked by several people why you think gay porn is worse than regular porn and you have not answered, any reason?

TheMercenary 05-11-2007 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by bluecuracao (Post 342386)
So, ummmm, you're just insulting me with crass crap for nothing. How sweet.

You get what you give.

TheMercenary 05-11-2007 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage (Post 342444)
Merc, you have been asked by several people why you think gay porn is worse than regular porn and you have not answered, any reason?

I was trying to say that I felt that teens should not look at Porn regardless. I don't feel that gay porn is any worse than regular porn. Just that teens should not be looking at it. Most are going to see some anyway. And the days when we looked at some soft core porn is nothing like today where the internet has afforded the opportunities for teens to have unregulated access to everything available on the net. I doubt you will find many parents who actually have teen children of their own who would approve of their teens looking at porn on their home computers.

glatt 05-11-2007 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 342498)
You get what you give.

But only when it's negative.

TheMercenary 05-11-2007 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by glatt (Post 342503)
But only when it's negative.

Correct.

edit: I actually had a better explaination written but it sounded to much like a whine, so I will refrain. :D

bluecuracao 05-11-2007 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 342498)
You get what you give.

Is that right.

What exactly did I "give" to inspire your nasty little tirade? From where I'm standing, it looks like all anyone has to do is disagree with you.

rkzenrage 05-11-2007 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 342502)
I was trying to say that I felt that teens should not look at Porn regardless. I don't feel that gay porn is any worse than regular porn. Just that teens should not be looking at it. Most are going to see some anyway. And the days when we looked at some soft core porn is nothing like today where the internet has afforded the opportunities for teens to have unregulated access to everything available on the net. I doubt you will find many parents who actually have teen children of their own who would approve of their teens looking at porn on their home computers.

However, you specified gay porn and homosexuality several times, as though it were somehow different. Why even mention it?

Hime 05-14-2007 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage (Post 342707)
However, you specified gay porn and homosexuality several times, as though it were somehow different. Why even mention it?

I think he's just trying to taunt Ibram.

Ibby 05-14-2007 05:45 PM

Now there's a surprise.

TheMercenary 05-14-2007 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ibram (Post 343307)
Now there's a surprise.

Never.

smurfalicious 05-21-2007 08:01 AM

the worst thing my parents ever told me was 'when a man and woman love each other they have sex to make babies'.


from my perspective, I see a lack of acceptance and understanding of human sexuality in our society at the root of this. our bodies are beautiful, sex is a beautiful thing. why the hell are we so embarrassed?

kids are going to look at porn. twice now i've reformatted my best friend's home pc because her 13 year old son is looking up boobies as soon as their backs are turned and fouls up the machine. my little brother looked at my dad's playboys. i looked at my dad's playboys. we were young enough that it wasn't a turn on so much as curiosity about the human body that we are so careful to hide.

as for gay porn... what's the difference? that YOU don't like it? it doesn't turn YOU on? the thought of it makes you uncomfortable? give me a break. homophobia is so overrated.

should 7 year olds be exposed to porn? of course not. but if your little man or little woman is growing hair where there wasn't any before, menstruating, or showing the signs of puberty, it's time to loosen the reigns a bit, let them understand sex and sexuality in an educational, comfortable environment, not one filled with shame and ignorance.

TheMercenary 05-21-2007 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by smurfalicious (Post 345163)
the worst thing my parents ever told me was 'when a man and woman love each other they have sex to make babies'.


from my perspective, I see a lack of acceptance and understanding of human sexuality in our society at the root of this. our bodies are beautiful, sex is a beautiful thing. why the hell are we so embarrassed?

kids are going to look at porn. twice now i've reformatted my best friend's home pc because her 13 year old son is looking up boobies as soon as their backs are turned and fouls up the machine. my little brother looked at my dad's playboys. i looked at my dad's playboys. we were young enough that it wasn't a turn on so much as curiosity about the human body that we are so careful to hide.

as for gay porn... what's the difference? that YOU don't like it? it doesn't turn YOU on? the thought of it makes you uncomfortable? give me a break. homophobia is so overrated.

should 7 year olds be exposed to porn? of course not. but if your little man or little woman is growing hair where there wasn't any before, menstruating, or showing the signs of puberty, it's time to loosen the reigns a bit, let them understand sex and sexuality in an educational, comfortable environment, not one filled with shame and ignorance.

You miss the point, as have others. The "porn" you looked at in your daddy's playboys are not representative of the "porn" kids can see on the internet today. Homophobia is not the issue. Those are lables people like to throw around to sack everyone together when someone disagrees with anothers views. Lots of generalizations are being tossed about.


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