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Old 04-20-2007, 10:16 PM   #1
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Kids and the Internet

So help me out here... do parents have the right to control what their kids do on the internet in their home, on their computers, when the parents are paying the bill? Or do kids (teens of any age) get to do just whatever the hell they want and the parents are to stand by and let them have full run of the net??

Please comment since there are teens here who think they can do whatever they want.

This is a serious question, please give an explanation of why you support your position. Thanks.
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Old 04-20-2007, 10:44 PM   #2
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The right is completely the parent's.

I have the right to paint "FUCK ALL THE MOTHER-FUCKING NIGGERFUCKERS" on my roof. I wont because only a dick would do that.

Controlling what your kid does is the authoritarian, dictorial, idiotic, and in all other ways wrong thing to do.

Teach them why they should or shouldnt do something, then trust them to do the right thing. If you taught them well, if they have half a brain, they'll do fine.
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Old 04-20-2007, 10:59 PM   #3
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I have the right to paint "FUCK ALL THE MOTHER-FUCKING NIGGERFUCKERS" on my roof.

WRONG IB , you have the ability to do that ,
and you Dad or some other authoriety figuer has the RIGHT to punnish you for it .

If one of my kids had done some thing like that I would have stood over them while they scrubed it off or replaced the shingles , then they would have had to pay for said repairs out of their own pockets , oh and be grounded for a LONG WHILE ,
Rember slick , your parents are ONLY required to provide you with food clothing and shelter , EVERY thing else is a privlage ,
Think No IPod , PC ( exept for school work ) , all your toys ( guitars , make ups , weird clothes ETC ,,,, )
What they give they can take away ,
Ask my Step daughter about the time I took her bed room door privlageds away for 2 weeks , or the time she got to spend in a tent in the back yard for a week .
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Old 04-20-2007, 11:01 PM   #4
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Who said I controlled anything? Please review all previous posts teen and point out where I stated that I "controlled" anything they did. All that was stated son was that I monitored via appropriate spyware. Good stuff.
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Old 04-20-2007, 11:02 PM   #5
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By 'my house' i meant 'a house owned by me' - maybe not me PERSONALLY etc, but if it's MY house (not my family's, MINE), then I can do what I want with it. I'm not arguing as a teen; I'm arguing as a person. I know as a teen I have next-to-no rights. I'm talking about people, not about ME.
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Old 04-20-2007, 11:04 PM   #6
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Who said I controlled anything? Please review all previous posts teen and point out where I stated that I "controlled" anything they did.
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So help me out here... do parents have the right to control what their kids do on the internet in their home, on their computers, when the parents are paying the bill?
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Old 04-20-2007, 11:05 PM   #7
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Can we just keep this in one thread for God's sake?
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Old 04-20-2007, 11:06 PM   #8
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In that case IB you could do what you want , untill the cops come and make you scrub it off ,
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Old 04-20-2007, 11:08 PM   #9
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Just like access to any other adult material, guns, alcohol, porn; adult rated films, music, games and other material a parent has a right to monitor & limit access to adult websites, blog content, videos, and possible people (just like where your kids go and whom they speak to in life) posing as someone other than whom they claim to be.
One is NO DIFFERENT than the other.
It is not a parent's right to do so... it is their obligation... if they do not, they are lacking in parenting skills and, well, you can fill the rest in.

Monitoring is control. If you can stop something you don't want, you have, in effect, already done so.

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Old 04-20-2007, 11:16 PM   #10
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So what you're saying, rkzenrage, that even though I'm obviously a responsible and trustworthy kid, most of the time, my parents are wrong for giving me the freedom to use the internet (and therefore come here on the cellar) without them breathing down my neck?

Teaching someone what they should and shouldnt do, and why, is better and more effective than any amount of iron-fisted control or spying.
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Old 04-20-2007, 11:17 PM   #11
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By 'my house' i meant 'a house owned by me' - maybe not me PERSONALLY etc, but if it's MY house (not my family's, MINE), then I can do what I want with it. I'm not arguing as a teen; I'm arguing as a person. I know as a teen I have next-to-no rights. I'm talking about people, not about ME.
And I am talking ONLY about teens, as we have from the beginning of this discussion, don't try to change horses in the middle of the stream.
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Old 04-20-2007, 11:17 PM   #12
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Again teen, my house, my rules.
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Old 04-20-2007, 11:21 PM   #13
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Say it with me again here folks. A right is not the same as a good course of action.

I have the right to, say, carry a wad of hundred-dollar bills and wave them at the homeless people down on skid row. But I wont because that would make me a DICK.

I'm not denying that its your internet, your house, your computer, your rules - I'm just saying that because of your rules, youre an asshole.
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Old 04-20-2007, 11:25 PM   #14
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Say it with me again here folks. A right is not the same as a good course of action.

I have the right to, say, carry a wad of hundred-dollar bills and wave them at the homeless people down on skid row. But I wont because that would make me a DICK.

I'm not denying that its your internet, your house, your computer, your rules - I'm just saying that because of your rules, youre an asshole.
Cool, and I am saying you are inmature teen who has never known the responsiblity of parenthood and never has even paid your own damm bills long enough to know what the term "responsibility" means. Now go get a job.
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So what you're saying, rkzenrage, that even though I'm obviously a responsible and trustworthy kid, most of the time, my parents are wrong for giving me the freedom to use the internet (and therefore come here on the cellar) without them breathing down my neck?

Teaching someone what they should and shouldnt do, and why, is better and more effective than any amount of iron-fisted control or spying.
You read "iron fisted" and "breathing down my neck" into my post.
I never stated nor implied monitoring every mail, post, site for a teen of sixteen to eighteen. But, the ability to if you feel their is evidence, or if you just need piece of mind, is just good parenting.
Do your parents ask where you are at night, who you were with?
It is identical.
Also, my statement was not teen specific, you also read that into my post.
My son is three and plays games on-line, am I an asshole?
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