Self-harming Paralympic Athletes
 

I had never heard of this before. It was interesting to read but I'm sure my face looked like I was sucking a lemon while I read it. Athletes with spinal injuries apparently do not get the same blood pressure raise that occurs naturally for able-bodied athletes when they engage in hard physical activity. So they induce it arftificially through pain/injury. Including breaking toes and electric shocks to the testicles. WTF? ouch. No pain no gain, but ugh. It's banned, of course.....


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19325756

Well, no pain really.
From what I understand they are raising their blood pressure by "pain" in the areas of their body that do not feel it. Being spinal injury athletes the injuries are inflicted below the line of paralysis.

That's what I got from a 5 Live interview with a Paralympic anyway.

the ouch was from me. The "No pain No gain pun was intentional, but alas too subtle.

Troll much? :eyebrow:

Certainly no trolling intended.

I honestly didn't get the full significance until listening to an extended report on the radio this afternoon.
I felt the ouch and didn't think through the ramifications.

ETA Actually, although I had not reason to troll and was interested in the subject I'm pretty weary of you being hostile to me. And for no reason I can see. The above was not an attempt to correct you, it was simply more information.

What was with the dig about me and John Sellers?
I don't know him.

It's just petty.

Its personal, she just doesn't like you. At least thats the way it seems from here.

Shrug it off.

Well now you come to mention it, this was the last straw in my getting pretty weary of you being so hostile and petty and pedantic towards me for no apparent reason and I finally decided to bite back. Maybe you just didn't realise you were doing it ......maybe it was the period when you were off your meds. But I had enough so I took a breather, and then come back to this shit. And the shit in the zombie thread and the new handle thread. And in other threads towards other posters too. But especially here to me. And it was an attempt to correct. You're always correcting people. You may call it "informing".

you're just jealous 'cause I never sent you cornbread mix. And 'cause we're cat people and you're a dog person.

edited to improve accuracy.

Damn, Foot.
I didn't read Monster's post at the time because I wanted any real or perceived to and fro to cease and knew it was better just not to know.

I honestly believed I had been civil and considerate since, to everyone. Apart from occasionally losing my temper (as I did in the ETA above) I do not think I have been hostile to any Dwellar. I don't count the trolls of course. And I may not share the same views as everyone, but personally I do not believe my posts are specifically targeted.
I do not want you to tell me exactly whay prompted the post above. I guess I can't handle the truth.

But it would be nice to have it out on the board post by post rather than having it out like this.

Obviously I need to think more and post less.

I think foot was just saying that he prefers the euphemism "editing to improve accuracy" over "correcting."

Everyone's cool. I think.

No, because he amended Monster's post so that it said "a number of people getting pretty weary".

Yeah, that's unpleasant.

Well, ya know... foots not the end all and be all anyway. He's usually just devisive for devisiveness sake. Just consider the source, Sundae, and dont put a whole lot of weight to it. Because this...... just doesn't describe you in the least bit.

Bah, Pico's just an un-trouble maker. :p:

yeah .... no. She's a stirrer with a huge fucking spoon and several issues. one of which appears to be some drug/mental problem. What? Have you not seen how her typing and content have deteriorated recently? Then no wonder it's gone unchecked. You people don't care enough about the people you consider your "online community". You don't speak out when they get out of line (unless it's people like Me, Jim, infi, merc...... who you feel "can take it") or post like they had a character transplant. Especially if they suddenly adopt a "uber-nice-protect-underdog clique" stance. it's like the Stepford Fucking Wives.

Most of the time, the shit storms I create are due to me caring about posters going "off the rails". Sure, I dont have the people skills to be a health care professional, or a financial advisor, but when people do stuff that's contrary to their professed goals/areas of expertise/usual position/whatever, i'mm'a say it. Maybe in a way that comes across as hostile. So sue me. At least I had the balls/whatever to actually say it.

Ahh I see how this works. You post stuffs because you care, and Pico posts stuffs because she's on drugs? Well, that makes sense.

I haven't noticed any kind of a deterioration in Pico's postings. I have noticed her stick up for a few people who've been got at. Including me, as it happens. Now you can view that as some kind of drug induced character transplant, or you could wonder why she feels compelled to speak out in other peoples' defence. Maybe it's because some people in here just can't help themselves from ragging on others.

I supposed it never occurred to you that maybe nobody spoke up because they don't agree with you, or at least didn't think it was important.

monster, I admire you.

A lot of people are intimidated by a strong woman. And it seems a lot of people are fooled when people try to project an unflinching kindness and acceptance of all things bright and beautiful, and all things great and small. This attitude is doled out generously, unless of course you dare to speak your mind. Once the Finger of Mean has been pointed at you, it's pretty hard to shake...no matter what contributions you actually make.

I like people who are upfront. I like to know where I stand. Where I stand here has become very loud and very clear. That's OK. I know who I am. I know what's in my heart, and I see what's in your heart. Along with our penchant for speaking our minds we have both confided to this community our fears and our heartaches (to some extent, for me anyway...there are some things I don't feel safe spewing here.)

I think there might be some envy involved as well: you have a great husband, awesome kids, a full life. You take care of so many people IRL. You swim, you walk, you transport kids to their activities, you talk to your kids, you are involved. You make hilarious loldwellars and make me laugh.

Did you ever know that you're my hero? You, monster, are the wind beneath my wings. ;) Pay no attention to the little dogs in the tall grass who are always jumping up to see what the other dogs are doing.

"It's just petty."
 

HA!

"strangulate your testicles"
 

HA!

Divisive. As in Divide.

What has happened to the world's spelling ability? And I'm not divisive. Snarky, sarcastic, and well, I guess I am divisive. That doesn't make me love you any less.

Umm, I think she's talking about Sundae, not Pico.

Monster...
 

...for the record: fuck these whores.

You're a good egg.

But wear a jimmy hat.

Well it tied in with stuff she's said to and about pico before. Usually after pico has attempted to defend another poster from monster, infi or Henry. Maybe I'm wrong. Either way it was a shitty thing to say.

Talking of shitty things to say. I see infi and Henry have arrived. Good oh the gangs all here.

Ha! He who lives in glass gangs shouldn't throw houses.

Check your envy at the door. :rolleyes:

My mistake. I almost never see posts by Pico - we hang in different threads.
Here is an apostrophe, ' feel free to keep it, Ive got plenty more.

:P

"shitty things"
 

HA!

What envy, inf? What do you think I am envious of?

"What envy?"
 

Well, it's obvious to any one with one good eye and three working brain cells ('me').

Jeez...

Infi, I think the fact that you believe I am envious of Monster's family life says rather more about you than it does about me. It also shows me very clearly how little you know me.

I read that description of Monster's life and a number of things go through my mind.

1. It doesn't appeal to me at all. In fact, if you were to design a personal hell just for me, that description would do pretty well as a starting premise.

I don't mean that in a nasty way, because:

2. It's a truly lovely thing to see a couple who are genuinely into each other and into their kids and bonded into a strong family unit. All snippiness and hostility aside, I'm pleased for her. They have every right to feel proud and happy at the life they have built together.

It's just not something that appeals to me. I like my life. I am single because I choose to be. And I have no children because I chose not to. I am living about as close to my ideal life as it is possible to be, without 100k in the bank and a slightly bigger house with a garden for the dog.

That said:

3. If I did hanker for all that; if I was lonely and wishing I had a loving husband and kids to care for, then that would have been a singularly cruel thing to post.

...wince...ummm, yeah, I had just gotten home from sharing a couple of pitchers of Dos Exxis with my husband. I blame the typos on the beer...happily. I had just finished my first day of work at Chrysler and we were celebrating.

Dana, I don't think I meant specifically monster's life. Rereading it doesn't make much sense...I was being assy. ;)

And I wanted to write monster an ode because I do admire her.

But no, I've known all my life I didn't want kids...and I probably won't get married again. I just like to see it done right, and we do have some awesome parents in the cellar.

Scratch the envy remark, I was being catty. Scratch. Catty? Hehehee

Fairy nuff :P

There's no claws for ill feline.

Hahahhaa!

Purrfect. :needacatsmiliedarnit:

:biggrinha (the ears are tucked into the hat)

The cat in the hat! And now we've come full circle: the hat theme!

ohh let's all have a group hug.

"a group hug"
 

Sure!

Easier to slide a knife between the ribs and pick a pocket when every one's in a huddle... ;)

Well that'll put a real damper on Kumbaya. :mad:

Pollyanna

Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm.

Infy of FunnyFarm Brook

Anne of Green Gables!

NOW we're getting somewhere!

Let's describe our own domiciles in the style of alliteration. Fun, huh?

Trilby of Truly Falling Down House

Toad of Toad Haulin' His Ass Out of Here in About a Month

Welcome To the Monkey House, but of course! Luvz Vonnegut.

OK, describe: Infi's Inferior Iron Inhabitance.

Is your house an Iron Age house for lots of monkeys?

coz I can relate to that.

@ Dana am disappoint. pico already admitted the big spoon (or pleaded some lesser charge -whatev) Defence and stirring are two different things. And as to the double-standard... really? I mean REALLY? Maybe i gave you too much credit, or maybe i just got too Merkined. (1) How often do you see me "defend" people? (2) There's a vast difference between "instigators" (me, for example) and "third-man-in" (spoon-wielders anon, for example). If you don't see this difference, then it's to the detriment to one of us, but far be it for me to specify which.

Did you pick the right bit to quote there? You're another with a big spoon and not much in the pot.

ummm :bolt:

Monster's Mess

@Henry you're a troll too. And you can't have Infi, she's mine all mine........

The big spoon defense. I may have to use that when I find out what it means.

Monster, you are being quite the drama queen. Or maybe the lady doth protest too much, methinks.

You may call it shit stirring when someone comes to another posters aid, thats just you. I was trying to show Sundae that not everyone thinks of her the way you and foot do.

Oh pico. It's so like you to sit in the audience and raise your flag when you think some viewpoint is popular. You see no deeper meanings. That's so sweet. :)

If you need moral support and a cushion of denial to express your opinions, the cellar is probably not the place you should be expressing them. Private Messaging -there for a reason.

"Trying to show Sundae?", Pico..... no you weren't. You know nothing of our history and furthermore you're kind of useless when it comes to interpreting how one person feels about another.... or maybe you were just SHIT-STIRRING.........

I'm feeling kind of right now.

I think the rule is that a post is moral support when it's in favor of a poster and it's shit stirring when it's in opposition to a poster. Frames of reference are free, take one that suits your fancy.

monster, you're no more sensitive or insightful or tough or mean than other posters here, but you are more vocal about it. If you feel condescended to by Sundae, tha's your prerogative. Your feelings, your choice. I can't say as I've seen it though. infi, a third party, posted in favor of your remarks, that would be moral support. ME posted in opposition to your remarks--shit stirring. You're entitled to your opinion on that matter. It's not an objective definition though, even if your call it out in ALL CAPS. I hope you're happy with the response you've gotten from Sundae. I doubt you'll find happiness from my post.

Oh wow, you're so insightful! Swoon!

o wow you're so clever catty sarcastic assy funny or something like that. I hope you didn't hurt your head when you landed on the floor.

"Henry you're a troll"
 

Damn straight... ;)

Actually, I was just drunk. But I didn't fall or hurt my head. Thanks for asking. :D