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Trilby 07-28-2006 10:53 AM

Your American Masters
 
I've been reading some online newspapers today--UK's the Guardian and the London Times, a couple of papers from Israel and Lebanon and I've come to this disheartening conclusion: Everybody sees the US as the Evil Master--even Israel, even England. You should read some of the comments on these papers blogs to get a good sense of no matter what the US does, it is wrong, evil, manipulative, trying to keep them down, etc, etc. NO MATTER WHAT WE DO! If we send humanitarian aid, we are being braggarts, if we don't-we're selfish bastards. To me, it looks like the only way to win a war is the way it was done in WWII. These PC wars do nothing but grow the extremist population. Israel thinks we've been defeated in Iraq and want them to finish the job we couldn't by "getting" them to fight Hezbollah! Lordy, lordy...

Spexxvet 07-28-2006 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Brianna
... no matter what the US does, it is wrong, evil, manipulative, trying to keep them down, etc, etc. ...

That's only policies initiated by conservative republican fundamentalist Christians.:eek: There's a theory that we take the hit for everything because we're the only remaining superpower. Who knows?

This is a good reason to be isolationist. We should become self-sufficient and remove ourselves from the world scene. Perhaps then we'll be more appreciated.

MaggieL 07-28-2006 11:31 AM

Not all the newspapers in the UK are so leftist...just a lot of them. Read Google News for a while and you begin to find out who's who.

rkzenrage 07-28-2006 11:38 AM

I say it all the time, we are "evil" when we "police the world" and then we are "evil" when we "refuse to police the world". They don't know what they want other than someone who is not afraid to make a decision to blame.
It's called envy, see the following.
Again, as always, don't use our jack, don't take our aid, don't use our technology (in any field), don't ask us to bail your ass out of any situation, don't come here for heart, brain surgery, vacation or retirement or send your kids to school here, don't come here to work so you can buy a home in your broke-ass country instead of staying there an fixing it yourself.... don't, don't, don't do shit with the US... THEN you won't have shit to complain about.
It's easy.

Beestie 07-28-2006 02:20 PM

Its lonely at the top. But eventually, it'll be someone else's turn and the world will long for the good old days of being America's beyotch.

xoxoxoBruce 07-28-2006 07:34 PM

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To me, it looks like the only way to win a war is the way it was done in WWII.
We can't do that unless we're fighting a country, an army, with uniforms, and little civilian involvement. That doesn't happen anymore. :headshake

If it did, we'd have Gulf War I again. Even wackos know better than to tug on Superman's cape.

Ibby 07-29-2006 12:12 AM

Or spit into the wind.
Or pull the mask off the ol' Lone Ranger.

Aliantha 07-30-2006 10:47 PM

As Beestie put it, sooner or later someone else will be the super power and then everyone will forget the US just like they did the British and French and the Greeks and the Romans and...and...and...so don't stress out too much.

I'm just glad little old Australia wont ever have to worry about being in that position. :)

Griff 07-31-2006 05:54 AM

Of course we're still picking up after the British...

Trilby 07-31-2006 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Griff
Of course we're still picking up after the British...

And the French...

Trilby 07-31-2006 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha
As Beestie put it, sooner or later someone else will be the super power and then everyone will forget the US just like they did the British and French and the Greeks and the Romans and...and...and...so don't stress out too much.

I'm just glad little old Australia wont ever have to worry about being in that position. :)

Who's your pick, Aliantha? Iran? China?

And no faith in your home team? For shame.

Trilby 07-31-2006 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha
forget the US just like they did the British and French and the Greeks and the Romans and...and...and...

So long as your interested in history, let's not forget that after the Huns and Visigoths and all those other lovely people conqured Rome and the surrounding civilizations that the European world was plunged into 1,000 years of darkness. And life was nasty, brutish and short. Yay!

Aliantha 08-02-2006 09:03 PM

Brianna...I'd lay odds on China. Seems to me they're biding their time the last couple of decades.

They'll come into power as a developing nation and leave it as a decaying one...just as most of the powers in the past have.

But what would I know?

I live in a country where there's less than 25 million residents. Very small in comparison to most others...cept New Zealand, and we all know they don't count. ;) The population would have to explode for us to even have the man power to rule the world, let alone the guts and mustard required to do so. Don't get me wrong though, I think my country is the best in the world and I pity you all for not living here. You just don't know what you're missing. :)

xoxoxoBruce 08-02-2006 11:11 PM

I know what we're not missing....water. :smack:

Aliantha 08-05-2006 04:55 AM

Well, when you live in a country that's over 70% desert, water is always going to be in short supply. ;)


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