Your American Masters

[Trilby]

I've been reading some online newspapers today--UK's the Guardian and the London Times, a couple of papers from Israel and Lebanon and I've come to this disheartening conclusion: Everybody sees the US as the Evil Master--even Israel, even England. You should read some of the comments on these papers blogs to get a good sense of no matter what the US does, it is wrong, evil, manipulative, trying to keep them down, etc, etc. NO MATTER WHAT WE DO! If we send humanitarian aid, we are being braggarts, if we don't-we're selfish bastards. To me, it looks like the only way to win a war is the way it was done in WWII. These PC wars do nothing but grow the extremist population. Israel thinks we've been defeated in Iraq and want them to finish the job we couldn't by "getting" them to fight Hezbollah! Lordy, lordy...

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by Brianna

... no matter what the US does, it is wrong, evil, manipulative, trying to keep them down, etc, etc. ...

That's only policies initiated by conservative republican fundamentalist Christians. There's a theory that we take the hit for everything because we're the only remaining superpower. Who knows?

This is a good reason to be isolationist. We should become self-sufficient and remove ourselves from the world scene. Perhaps then we'll be more appreciated.

[MaggieL]

Not all the newspapers in the UK are so leftist...just a lot of them. Read Google News for a while and you begin to find out who's who.

I say it all the time, we are "evil" when we "police the world" and then we are "evil" when we "refuse to police the world". They don't know what they want other than someone who is not afraid to make a decision to blame.
It's called envy, see the following.
Again, as always, don't use our jack, don't take our aid, don't use our technology (in any field), don't ask us to bail your ass out of any situation, don't come here for heart, brain surgery, vacation or retirement or send your kids to school here, don't come here to work so you can buy a home in your broke-ass country instead of staying there an fixing it yourself.... don't, don't, don't do shit with the US... THEN you won't have shit to complain about.
It's easy.

[Beestie]

Its lonely at the top. But eventually, it'll be someone else's turn and the world will long for the good old days of being America's beyotch.

[xoxoxoBruce]

To me, it looks like the only way to win a war is the way it was done in WWII.

We can't do that unless we're fighting a country, an army, with uniforms, and little civilian involvement. That doesn't happen anymore.

If it did, we'd have Gulf War I again. Even wackos know better than to tug on Superman's cape.

[tw]

Originally Posted by Beestie

Its lonely at the top. But eventually, it'll be someone else's turn and the world will long for the good old days of being America's beyotch.

The world already longs for the good old days when being at the top meant America had so many friends. Of course that meant Americans first learned the perspectives of the world rather than preach to the world what was right and wrong. Become so anti-American as to even believe we can impose democracy on all others.

Remember the good old days when America believed in containment? When we learned before declaring 'right and wrong', then a world was 70% pro-American. It is now less than 15% so.

Most readers here did not exist during Vietnam - when again, respect for America was so low. Of course it was. Americans were also back then so ignorant as to demand what is right and wrong rather than first learn facts. Americans would even lie to themselves rather than admit the Vietnam reality.

A little test for each lurker. Was America the good guy or the bad guy in Vietnam? If you still say Americans were the good guys, then you have no grasp of reality and history. Tragedy of Vietnam is how good people can do so much evil. Only a classic anti-American ignores why American were the bad guys.

Vietnam War is a classic example of how Americans were so righteous as to murder those who had even been America's closest allies. If you did not yet learn basic history - such as a Ho Chi Minh that desperately wanted to become a protectorate of the US - then you never learned how anti-American we became back then. We blindly believed lies. Many today are so anti-American as to still believe those Vietnam era lies - such as the Domino Theory. Vietnam is a benchmark. If you learned about Vietnam, then you learned why America became so anti-American. A true patriot learns from history. Only anti-Americans deny it.

'Terrorists are lurking everywhere' is only preached in a righteous America. Mostly among George Jr supporters. ‘Terrorism everywhere’ is more fodder for Armageddon. Only 'evil people' want Armageddon. No wonder the world has become so worried. So many who want Armageddon also proclaim they are ‘god’s chosen’ people.

Among good people are not issues in black and white. Good people see the world in perspective. Perspective was always difficult for anti-American types who are so righteous. When Americans were instead honest, then Americans were 70% popular. Being at the top meant friends everywhere. Neither the world nor god likes a country lead by liars. Welcome to an America that only wants enemies – ‘terrorist are lurking everywhere’. It is only lonely at the top when we are anti-American - and even hype lies to invent enemies. No wonder the world is no longer so friendly. Everytime it gets lonely at the top, America was the problem. Again, learn from history.

[MaggieL]

Originally Posted by tw

Of course that meant Americans first learned the perspectives of the world rather than preach to the world what was right and wrong. .. Was America the good guy or the bad guy in Vietnam? If you still say Americans were the good guys, then you have no grasp of reality and history.

So...even though you're old enough to remeber Vietnam, you still haven't learned this lesson. :-)

[Ibby]

Or spit into the wind.
Or pull the mask off the ol' Lone Ranger.

[Aliantha]

As Beestie put it, sooner or later someone else will be the super power and then everyone will forget the US just like they did the British and French and the Greeks and the Romans and...and...and...so don't stress out too much.

I'm just glad little old Australia wont ever have to worry about being in that position.

[Griff]

Of course we're still picking up after the British...

[Trilby]

Originally Posted by Griff

Of course we're still picking up after the British...

And the French...

[Trilby]

Originally Posted by Aliantha

As Beestie put it, sooner or later someone else will be the super power and then everyone will forget the US just like they did the British and French and the Greeks and the Romans and...and...and...so don't stress out too much.

I'm just glad little old Australia wont ever have to worry about being in that position.

Who's your pick, Aliantha? Iran? China?

And no faith in your home team? For shame.

[Trilby]

Originally Posted by Aliantha

forget the US just like they did the British and French and the Greeks and the Romans and...and...and...

So long as your interested in history, let's not forget that after the Huns and Visigoths and all those other lovely people conqured Rome and the surrounding civilizations that the European world was plunged into 1,000 years of darkness. And life was nasty, brutish and short. Yay!

[Aliantha]

Brianna...I'd lay odds on China. Seems to me they're biding their time the last couple of decades.

They'll come into power as a developing nation and leave it as a decaying one...just as most of the powers in the past have.

But what would I know?

I live in a country where there's less than 25 million residents. Very small in comparison to most others...cept New Zealand, and we all know they don't count. The population would have to explode for us to even have the man power to rule the world, let alone the guts and mustard required to do so. Don't get me wrong though, I think my country is the best in the world and I pity you all for not living here. You just don't know what you're missing.