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DanaC 08-31-2006 09:22 AM
Foot in mouth disease.....
 
Quote:
ROME (Reuters) - An Italian politician has used the "work makes you free" slogan that topped the gates at Auschwitz in a brochure to promote local job centres, saying he could not remember the source but was impressed by the quote.


News agency Ansa reported the vice-president of the Jewish community in Rome had sharply criticised Tommaso Coletti, president of Italy's southern Chieti province and member of the centre-left "Daisy" party, for using the quote.


Countless photographs have focussed on the "Arbeit macht Frei" sign at Auschwitz to encapsulate the horror of the Nazi death camps.


"Work makes you free. I don't remember where I read this phrase but it was one of those quotes that have an instant impact on you because they tell an immense truth," Coletti wrote in the pamphlet, Ansa reported.


Coletti could not be reached for comment and the regional job centres were also unavailable. Ansa said the governor of the Abruzzo region, which includes Coletti's province, had apologised to Italy's Jewish community.
There's not much I can add to that.

wolf 08-31-2006 09:47 AM
I'm amused.

Ibby 08-31-2006 09:48 AM
The only words to explain what mustve been his response:

"uh... well... fuck."

glatt 08-31-2006 09:56 AM
The guy's a moron, but he's right. Having a paying job can make a person more free.

Too bad the Nazis took that phrase and now nobody else can use it. Just like the swastika, a symbol that's been around forever in many cultures.

Flint 08-31-2006 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by glatt
Just like the swastika, a symbol that's been around forever in many cultures.
I don't refrain from using it for it's intended purpose, despite the actions of others that were beyond by control.

DanaC 08-31-2006 10:20 AM
Out of interest, what was its intended purpose?

Trilby 08-31-2006 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by DanaC
Out of interest, what was its intended purpose?
The swastika? Good luck symbol.

9th Engineer 08-31-2006 10:48 AM
The swastika was originally a Buddist symbol originating in China (the swastika valley to be more specific) which symbolized peace and harmony. In it's original form however it is the reverse of the symbol we normally associate with Nazi Germany. I guess someone in the party had a sick sense of humor when they decided to take the reverse of a symbol of peace and make it their symbol of war.

Hippikos 08-31-2006 10:49 AM
Free Speech?

Flint 08-31-2006 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by DanaC
Out of interest, what was its intended purpose?
"The swastika used in Buddhist art and scripture is known in Japanese as a manji (which literally just means "the Chinese character for eternality"), and represents Dharma, universal harmony, and the balance of opposites. When facing left, it is the omote (front) manji, representing love and mercy. Facing right, it represents strength and intelligence, and is called the ura (rear) manji. Balanced manji are often found at the beginning and end of Buddhist scriptures (outside India)."

dar512 08-31-2006 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by glatt
The guy's a moron, but he's right. Having a paying job can make a person more free.

Too bad the Nazis took that phrase and now nobody else can use it. Just like the swastika, a symbol that's been around forever in many cultures.
Why is he a moron? Because he liked a phrase, but couldn't remember where he'd seen it? If that's true, then I must be dumb as dirt, because my answer to "Where did you get that?" is generally, "I dunno. I read it somewhere."

I can understand that Europeans and Jews in particular are sensitive to anything related to the Nazis, but the truth or falseness of a statement is not related to whether the Nazis ever used it. I'm sure the Nazis played soccer and drank beer. Should those activities be outlawed?

Undertoad 08-31-2006 10:54 AM
Swastika IotD: http://cellar.org/iotd.php?threadid=7640

Hippikos 08-31-2006 10:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 9th Engineer
The swastika was originally a Buddist symbol originating in China (the swastika valley to be more specific) which symbolized peace and harmony. In it's original form however it is the reverse of the symbol we normally associate with Nazi Germany. I guess someone in the party had a sick sense of humor when they decided to take the reverse of a symbol of peace and make it their symbol of war.
The Nazis were obsessed by the occult and mysticism.

The SS spent a great deal of time and resources in researching and creating social and scientific background in order to proof the superiority of the Aryan race but was also involved in occult practices.

The Thule mystical organisation was created by SS elite units. Even expeditions were sent to Tibet and the Andes and searches for the Holy Grail and Spear of Destiny. Probably it inspired Indy Jones?

Ibby 08-31-2006 08:14 PM
Thats why Indy fights so many Nazis.

They still use the swastika in earnest here in Taiwan, its all over the place. There's this building downtown that has twenty-foot swastikas all over it.

capnhowdy 08-31-2006 09:12 PM
Is it true that the slanted ones project a different message?


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