Texas parents don't like nude sculpture

SteveDallas · 09-27-2006, 10:44 PM

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...n/4214639.html

This caught my eye especially because of that trip to the Metropolitan Museum I took with my daughter (that was when the picture of me with the sphinx over in the dwellar photo thread was taken). The point of going was to see a special ancient Egypt exhibit that was only there through the end of June. However, once we were there, we went around some of the rest of the museum. And we saw several examples of Greek statues of nude males. It was very amusing because of my daughter's reaction. Revulsion would not, I believe, be too strong a word. I do not, however, believe any psychological trauma was induced. (By the statues, I mean. The cab ride back to Penn Station? That could be another story.)

wolf · 09-27-2006, 10:48 PM

I, for one, am very disappointed that pictures of the offending statues were not posted, with suitable warnings, so that the readers could make their own decision as to whether this is, or is not porn.

Show of hands ... who immediately thought of the Simpson's episode where Marge gets her panties in a bunch over Michelangelo's David?

Ibby · 09-27-2006, 10:49 PM

I've never understood why all the greek scultpures, even the ones that are supposedly 'ideal' representations, all have, like, micropenii.

wolf · 09-27-2006, 10:50 PM

For the artist's self-esteem.

ashke · 09-28-2006, 03:09 AM

For the audiences' self-esteem?

WabUfvot5 · 09-28-2006, 03:16 AM

Lots of 'em broken off. Just be glad that doesn't happen to real flesh.

xoxoxoBruce · 09-28-2006, 06:43 AM

Wait a minute....big headline;

Quote:

Teacher reprimanded after student sees nude art on museum trip

Following that 10 paragraphs saying she was being canned(not renewed) after 28 years of teaching because of this trip.
Then it says;

Quote:

District officials have said the museum field trip didn't spark reprimands of the teacher. They have repeatedly pointed to other performance issues.

The district rejected McGee's request in August to transfer to another Frisco school. They said they didn't want to give her a chance to move elsewhere without addressing other issues, including lesson-plan preparation.

Well, which is it?
Is the teacher trying to build a case for the trip being the cause of her trouble, in advance of the written report?
Is this just media sensationalism, Texas style?
Or is the school board covering their butt after being stupid?

SteveDallas · 09-28-2006, 08:47 AM

Of course it's impossible to tell from the outside. But apparently she's taught there for 28 years and they never failed to renew her contract before. That doesn't make the incompetence issue impossible, but it sure makes it look odd. Also, she has been put on administrative leave with pay for the remainder of the school year. Those must be some hellaciously bad lesson plans.

Nobody denies, however, that at least one parent did complain, and that the principal did get on her case about it. They're just denying that that's why she was put on leave and her contract not renewed.

Flint · 09-28-2006, 08:53 AM

Man, I hate hearing about shit like this happening in Texas. We're not all this way!

bbro · 09-28-2006, 10:06 AM

I saw something this morning that made me think of this thread, now for the life of me I can't find it. It was an article about a teacher in China who stripped for her students. I think she got fired or suspended, too.

I think I would prefer the nekkid sculptures

Edit to add:

Found it!! cnn

9th Engineer · 09-28-2006, 10:42 AM

Actually, it's pretty hard for a school to do alot to a teacher who's slacking off unless a big incident happens they can nail them for. That's probably the case here, the school might have been looking for an excuse to can her that wouldn't get them sued by the teachers union (bastards), this just happened to be their opportunity whether it was related to the original problem or not. We had a few teachers in my highschool that the board probably wanted to give the boot to but couldn't.

Elspode · 09-28-2006, 11:23 AM

Uh, sex is bad, m'kay?

tw · 09-28-2006, 01:05 PM

If a nuke body is a problem, then you have no business being into art. Nudity was normal for man. Who are these people so harmed by nude art? Therefore when they see blood, these same people also die of fright? Nonsense. Nudity is normal for art - especially ancient art. Nudity was considered beauty before irrational fears were imposed by religious extremism. Its art - no different with or without clothes.

If nudity is so harmful, then stop studying art.

Hair, hair, hair hair, hair, hair hair
Flow it, show it
Long as God can grow it My hair
Let it fly in the breeze
And get caught in the trees
Give a home to the fleas in my hair
A home for fleas
A hive for bees
A nest for birds
There ain't no words
For the beauty, the splendor, the wonder
Of my...
Hair, hair, hair, hair, hair, hair, hair

Back then, even long hair was somehow evil, corrupt, godless ...

Its only nudity - a completely normal event that harms no one.

09-28-2006, 01:10 PM

I have a fear of people who equate nudity with sex.
I think of them as perverts.

Flint · 09-28-2006, 01:20 PM

Whatever religion attempts to repress only festers beneath the surface, becoming something worse.

09-27-2006, 10:44 PM	#1
SteveDallas Your Bartender Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Philly Burbs, PA Posts: 7,651	Texas parents don't like nude sculpture http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...n/4214639.html This caught my eye especially because of that trip to the Metropolitan Museum I took with my daughter (that was when the picture of me with the sphinx over in the dwellar photo thread was taken). The point of going was to see a special ancient Egypt exhibit that was only there through the end of June. However, once we were there, we went around some of the rest of the museum. And we saw several examples of Greek statues of nude males. It was very amusing because of my daughter's reaction. Revulsion would not, I believe, be too strong a word. I do not, however, believe any psychological trauma was induced. (By the statues, I mean. The cab ride back to Penn Station? That could be another story.)

09-27-2006, 10:48 PM	#2
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	I, for one, am very disappointed that pictures of the offending statues were not posted, with suitable warnings, so that the readers could make their own decision as to whether this is, or is not porn. Show of hands ... who immediately thought of the Simpson's episode where Marge gets her panties in a bunch over Michelangelo's David? __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

09-27-2006, 10:49 PM	#3
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	I've never understood why all the greek scultpures, even the ones that are supposedly 'ideal' representations, all have, like, micropenii. __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

09-27-2006, 10:50 PM	#4
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	For the artist's self-esteem. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

09-28-2006, 08:53 AM	#9
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Man, I hate hearing about shit like this happening in Texas. We're not all this way! __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

09-28-2006, 03:09 AM	#5
ashke Don't look at me! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 288	For the audiences' self-esteem?

09-28-2006, 03:16 AM	#6
WabUfvot5 Operations Operative Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 634	Lots of 'em broken off. Just be glad that doesn't happen to real flesh.

09-28-2006, 08:47 AM	#8
SteveDallas Your Bartender Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Philly Burbs, PA Posts: 7,651	Of course it's impossible to tell from the outside. But apparently she's taught there for 28 years and they never failed to renew her contract before. That doesn't make the incompetence issue impossible, but it sure makes it look odd. Also, she has been put on administrative leave with pay for the remainder of the school year. Those must be some hellaciously bad lesson plans. Nobody denies, however, that at least one parent did complain, and that the principal did get on her case about it. They're just denying that that's why she was put on leave and her contract not renewed.

09-28-2006, 10:06 AM	#10
bbro Insert witty comment here Join Date: May 2004 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 2,182	I saw something this morning that made me think of this thread, now for the life of me I can't find it. It was an article about a teacher in China who stripped for her students. I think she got fired or suspended, too. I think I would prefer the nekkid sculptures Edit to add: Found it!! cnn Last edited by bbro; 09-28-2006 at 10:10 AM.

09-28-2006, 10:42 AM	#11
9th Engineer Bioengineer and aspiring lawer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 872	Actually, it's pretty hard for a school to do alot to a teacher who's slacking off unless a big incident happens they can nail them for. That's probably the case here, the school might have been looking for an excuse to can her that wouldn't get them sued by the teachers union (bastards), this just happened to be their opportunity whether it was related to the original problem or not. We had a few teachers in my highschool that the board probably wanted to give the boot to but couldn't. __________________ The most valuable renewable resource is stupidity.

09-28-2006, 11:23 AM	#12
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	Uh, sex is bad, m'kay? __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

09-28-2006, 01:05 PM	#13
tw Read? I only know how to write. Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 11,933	If a nuke body is a problem, then you have no business being into art. Nudity was normal for man. Who are these people so harmed by nude art? Therefore when they see blood, these same people also die of fright? Nonsense. Nudity is normal for art - especially ancient art. Nudity was considered beauty before irrational fears were imposed by religious extremism. Its art - no different with or without clothes. If nudity is so harmful, then stop studying art. Hair, hair, hair hair, hair, hair hair Flow it, show it Long as God can grow it My hair Let it fly in the breeze And get caught in the trees Give a home to the fleas in my hair A home for fleas A hive for bees A nest for birds There ain't no words For the beauty, the splendor, the wonder Of my... Hair, hair, hair, hair, hair, hair, hair Back then, even long hair was somehow evil, corrupt, godless ... Its only nudity - a completely normal event that harms no one.

09-28-2006, 01:10 PM	#14
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	I have a fear of people who equate nudity with sex. I think of them as perverts.

09-28-2006, 01:20 PM	#15
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Whatever religion attempts to repress only festers beneath the surface, becoming something worse. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

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