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The future is unwritten
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Why Germans Supported Hitler
This Jacob Hornberger article explains why the German people didn't see Hitler as the monster history has painted in retrospect. The parallels with FDR and the methods adopted by GWB are intriguing.
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Franklin Pierce
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I read this a few days ago, VERY good article.
I personally think I would have supported Hitler since of the depression and the treatment they got from Britain and France after the war but maybe not, probably depends on my age when he came to power. |
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I'm not sure the age thing would be all that important. All the Germans were suffering, except the very rural folks.
It was the same here. One of my Grandfathers worked in a rope factory and had hard times whereas my other Grandfather was largely self sufficient. Butter & egg money was scarce, and the clothing a little thin, but always food on the table.
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I just mentioned the age thing because my political views have changed tremendously in the past five years not because how hard I was hit economically, which you are right about. I was a Bush supporter for most of high school and believed in higher power controlling the masses.
I changed with maturity and hate the idea of giving up liberties for protection. If Bush came into power now I would never have supported him. While I would be in a completely different situation in Germany, the age could determine my loyalty. |
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Good old "Bumper" Hornberger; my friends have worked on all sorts of projects with him and I have seen him speak and met him on several occasions.
He has long pursued his theory that the Libertarian Party is not successful because it is not "pure" enough. If he was here he would be telling us why Radar is not a "real" Libertarian. |
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I like Hornberger's writing a lot (no suprise there). Many of us really don't think Bush is dangerous, thinking that the American system is too resilient to fall to tyranny. What is forgotten is that, while civil liberties have mostly been protected, government has become ubiquitous in our daily lives. We may or may not yet have an Evil Empire underway, but we are building Kafkaesque bureaucracies in our vain attempts to control each other.
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I thought it was because of....brainwashing? No??
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There has been so many comparisons. Just one google search tells it all.
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Hitler also designed a People's Vehicle -- an affordable mode of transportation -- the Volkswagen.
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And all this time I thought Ferdinand Porsche designed it.
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He did, sort of. Actually he copied the concept and a dozen design features of the Czech Tatra. When Tatra sued, Hitler told Porsche, not to worry, I'll make that problem go away. After the war VW had to settle with Tatra.
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I see no difference between what BushCo. wants and what Hitler did.
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I really think the humiliating and financially devastating terms of the Versailles treaty was a big, big factor. Much of Hitler's advances were sold in terms of reclaiming territories, to a nation who'd seen their historic enemy dancing on the ashes of their defeat. A great nation, their greatness still in living memory for many, forced to accept total culpability for a world war.
I sometimes wonder: if Germany had been in the same state of economic collapse, but without the humiliation of Versailles, would Hitler have been able to get people behind him as effectively as he did? if Germany had been utterly humiliated at Versailles, but allowed (assisted in) some economic recovery prior to Hitler's rise, would he have risen as far? Could either one of these factors,on their own, be enough to make Hitler's success possible. |
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