Parking question...

Does anyone else’s Wal-Mart, or local box store, disabled parking with loading, look like this?
I am doing a You Tube video on this, and probably sending it to the ADA as well.
I’m calling this store manager on Monday and asking if they will let me record a “talk about parking for a project” and work into asking them about how they store their shopping carts and why.
There is no reason they don’t store them on the inside of the sidewalk instead of merchandise.




Not to mention those parking in the loading zones without ramps or lifts…

& the ever-present non-disabled resident…


This was just today, us randomly showing-up, but it is normally like this at the busiest of times. When it is slow and they have a surplus of carts, there are NO spots for those with lifts/ramps.

[Perry Winkle]

There will always be douche-bags that park in the ramp-loading zones. Around here they'll enthusiastically tow/clamp your ass in private lots. But short of expending more energy (costs++), they aren't going to do anything about that.

Having carts in the ramp-loading zones is inexcusable. The person responsible should be sacked, and the person responsible for them should be sacked as well, . . .

This was a large Wal-Mart, there were two possible spaces I had to wait for that I could park in. All the rest were taken by carts.

[Sundae]

We call them trolleys over here, and they have their own special corrals - areas closed off by fencing on three sides. It makes perfect sense because that way the trolleys can't "drift" and damage someone's car.

Obviously people do still abuse disabled parking here, but at least the stores behave responsibly.

They have them here too... apparently some stores choose not to use them.

[richlevy]

The carts are a training issue with their employees. It's %100 their responsibility. Customers illegally parking is partly their responsibility in how aggressive they are in calling the police.

I called the cops and am going to talk to them about it.
The store manager is never "there" when I am there or when I call.
I really wanted to tape the call and use it in a YT video about this.
That they have the entire inside of the front sidewalk full of merchandise instead of using it for this purpose and/or more corrals disgusts me.

[Hoof Hearted]

My mother is putting together a PowerPoint presentation focusing on dissabilities world wide, on the accomodations made...and the countries who do not make accomodations available. She showed me part of it and it was powerful to see how far we've come and how backwards we can still be.
I hope you don't mind, but I think I will mention this to her and see if she could put it in her presentation. If she needs photos to use, and would like to use yours, I'll have her contact you or I'll get ahold of you via PM for permission.

[xoxoxoBruce]

I'd like to see that when it's done, HH.

[DanaC]

I think one of the difficulties in my country is the apparent lack of financial assistance in making buildings compliant. There's help there in the form of grants, but I don't think for private companies, or licensed premises. I was trying to get hold of some kind of grant funding for the Working Men's Club in my ward, because the British Legion (old soldiers mainly) use it for many of their charity functions and the only suitable suite within the club is upstairs. So far I haven't found any that would assist a private club.

I realise it's a different problem to the one the thread started with, but I do think it's quite a large reason for so many smaller businesses, stores, clubs and pubs still being very disabled unfriendly.

On a more positive note, the campaign to save the Remploy assisted factories (the one whose rally I spoke at) has had some success. The government's announced a £560 million rescue package to help the factories modernise the areas that need it and assistance in securing local government precurement contracts. That and an assurance that no factory will close without the direct involvement/permission of the government minister responsible. Oh yeah, and no compulsory redundancies

That's a coup, I think. The T&G union played a blinder with that campaign and utilised the party conference machine beautifully, to push the agenda.

Remploy was set up in the aftermath of WW2 to provide jobs for the war-disabled. The factories produce real goods, are often very skilled work and the jobs are proper jobs. But...they are not having to compete for those jobs against non-disabled workers, the factories and workshops are designed to be accessible to anybody, regardless of their physicality. They've grown into an organisation that employs many thousands of people, with every conceivable disability, including learning disabilities. Their factories have training centres and support staff, social areas etc.

They used to make pretty much all the uniforms for the armed forces as well as most of the furniture in our schools. They do everything (in different factories and regions) from bookbinding (which is what they do in my area) to steelworking.

[lumberjim]

Jinx and I walked past 8 empty handicapped spots at Target today, and she made an excellent point...

You live in Florida, rage. There's probably a MUCH higher demand for HP spots down there because there are so many coffin dodgers.

[xoxoxoBruce]

PA is #2, behind FL, in the amount of people collecting Social Security.

[monster]

Aren't most coffin-dodgers reasonably well off? Does disabled badge automatically indicate SS claimant?

That said, L&J are comparing Target with Walmart....

here, I have noticed rows of empty disabled spaces at Target, and overflow at Walmart.

So maybe the answer is that there should not be a set in stone # of disabled parking spaces, -the number should depend on the need at each store. perhaps what we really need is an AI parking system which designated spots as disabled/regular according to need? A challenge admittedly, but that's what makes life fun. Alternate compact and regular parking spaces in the lot, when more disabled needed, nearest available compact next to regular is designated disabled plus lift space....?

[lumberjim]

i think i know how to solve this problem:

[monster]