Police allegedly hang quadriplegic man

10-19-2007, 02:16 AM

Police allegedly hang quadriplegic man
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071018/...driplegic_suit

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LOS ANGELES - Jurors ruled the city of Pasadena must pay $80,000 to a quadriplegic man who sued because police officers allegedly jerked him out of his wheelchair and hung him upside down to search him.

That they were not ruled culpable makes me sick.

DanaC · 10-19-2007, 02:55 AM

I cannot understand how anybody could think this kind of behaviour would be acceptable, under any circumstances. Given how much money gets poured into police forces to ensure personnel understand issues around disability, ethnicity etc, how are they not culpable?

Mind you, our police chased, held down and fired seven bullets into the head of, a man they wrongly suspected of being a suicide bomber after a series of incompetant bungles... and the only recourse to justice is on the grounds of health and Safety violations. One of those responsible has been involved in another shooting (again of an innocent man, this time non-fatal) and yet has found his way to promotion.

ZenGum · 10-19-2007, 03:04 AM

Astonishing, really.

Yes, search the guy if they decide it is necessary. Heck RK has detailed his normal armaments, if I was a cop and busted him I'd want to look very carefully all around him and his chair.
But they WAY they did it. &%$#!!!! Mind-boggling. Did no-one ask, Gee Sarge, are you sure this is the appropriate way to go about this? was this in the training manual?
Meh, cops. There's some good 'uns and some bad 'uns, and a whole range in between. I agree with RK (and DanaC) that they should always be held responsible for their actions.

Flint · 10-19-2007, 10:34 AM

I wonder what The Peanut Guy will have to say about this?

10-19-2007, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ZenGum

Astonishing, really.

Yes, search the guy if they decide it is necessary. Heck RK has detailed his normal armaments, if I was a cop and busted him I'd want to look very carefully all around him and his chair.
But they WAY they did it. &%$#!!!! Mind-boggling. Did no-one ask, Gee Sarge, are you sure this is the appropriate way to go about this? was this in the training manual?
Meh, cops. There's some good 'uns and some bad 'uns, and a whole range in between. I agree with RK (and DanaC) that they should always be held responsible for their actions.

First, as a lic carrier I tell them and present my license. If they ask me if they can search me I would let them and tell them where any weapons are. I break no laws. Would I let them pick me up... fuck-no.
I cannot begin to describe the possible dammage that would do to me, it could kill me.
Those cops would be sued individually in civil court.

Madman · 10-19-2007, 02:16 PM

Well, you know, he may have concealed a weapon.

DanaC · 10-19-2007, 02:32 PM

And that justifies dangling the man upside down how?

10-19-2007, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Madman

Well, you know, he may have concealed a weapon.

And he would be able to use it how? You are a genisus...

OMG my stomach hurts from laughing!!!!

10-19-2007, 03:37 PM

People see the disabled as less than human, as having no rights.
If those cops had done this to a child, an elderly woman, anyone else who was defenseless, even not as defenseless as a quad (there is non one else) these pigs would have been fired, fines and jailed, as they need to be.
This was excessive force and aggravated battery and nothing else.
What was a quad going to do, frown at them?
The judge is culpable as well and shows this attitude as well.
Hanging someone who is disabled to that extent can easily be killed, murdered in this case, by that kind of treatment.
It should have been a jury of his peers, twelve quads and paras, not some judge.

Flint · 10-19-2007, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Madman

Well, you know, he may have concealed a weapon.

Yeah, maybe he had a cane with a sword concealed in the handle.

10-19-2007, 03:47 PM

QUAD!
Fucking idiots.

Flint · 10-19-2007, 03:48 PM

touché

lumberjim · 10-19-2007, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage

It should have been a jury of his peers, twelve quads and paras, not some judge.

wait....who was on trial? the cops were quads, or the wheelchair guy was on trial for something?

Flint · 10-19-2007, 04:30 PM

It should have been a jury of twelve cops?

xoxoxoBruce · 10-19-2007, 09:14 PM

How did they know he wasn't faking?

10-19-2007, 10:34 AM	#4
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	I wonder what The Peanut Guy will have to say about this? __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

10-19-2007, 03:48 PM	#12
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	touché __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

10-19-2007, 04:30 PM	#14
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	It should have been a jury of twelve cops? __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

10-19-2007, 02:55 AM	#2
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	I cannot understand how anybody could think this kind of behaviour would be acceptable, under any circumstances. Given how much money gets poured into police forces to ensure personnel understand issues around disability, ethnicity etc, how are they not culpable? Mind you, our police chased, held down and fired seven bullets into the head of, a man they wrongly suspected of being a suicide bomber after a series of incompetant bungles... and the only recourse to justice is on the grounds of health and Safety violations. One of those responsible has been involved in another shooting (again of an innocent man, this time non-fatal) and yet has found his way to promotion.

10-19-2007, 03:04 AM	#3
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	Astonishing, really. Yes, search the guy if they decide it is necessary. Heck RK has detailed his normal armaments, if I was a cop and busted him I'd want to look very carefully all around him and his chair. But they WAY they did it. &%$#!!!! Mind-boggling. Did no-one ask, Gee Sarge, are you sure this is the appropriate way to go about this? was this in the training manual? Meh, cops. There's some good 'uns and some bad 'uns, and a whole range in between. I agree with RK (and DanaC) that they should always be held responsible for their actions.

10-19-2007, 02:16 PM	#6
Madman has left the building. Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 455	Well, you know, he may have concealed a weapon.

10-19-2007, 02:32 PM	#7
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	And that justifies dangling the man upside down how?

10-19-2007, 03:37 PM	#9
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	People see the disabled as less than human, as having no rights. If those cops had done this to a child, an elderly woman, anyone else who was defenseless, even not as defenseless as a quad (there is non one else) these pigs would have been fired, fines and jailed, as they need to be. This was excessive force and aggravated battery and nothing else. What was a quad going to do, frown at them? The judge is culpable as well and shows this attitude as well. Hanging someone who is disabled to that extent can easily be killed, murdered in this case, by that kind of treatment. It should have been a jury of his peers, twelve quads and paras, not some judge.

10-19-2007, 03:47 PM	#11
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	QUAD! Fucking idiots.

10-19-2007, 09:14 PM	#15
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	How did they know he wasn't faking?

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