maintaining link collections...

perth · 04-29-2002, 06:07 PM

so im addicted to collecting links (the 'link of the day' thread in this forum brought me to the cellar in the first place). the trouble is, its increasingly difficult to categorize and maintain these links. at first i just used ie's favorites, and then built a small webpage with js nested drop-downs to organize. well, this has gotten unwieldy as well. i know im not the only one who has more saved links than i could possibly need, so i thought i would ask, how does everyone else manage their links?

~james

Undertoad · 04-29-2002, 06:57 PM

Mozilla's personal toolbar allows you use folders of bookmarks pretty well.

The personal toolbar is the thing in that shot that goes "Cellar Daily Blogs Weekly..."

The Cellar is a direct link to here, and of course everyone should have that first on their toolbar. From there, you see folders, and in those folders are bookmarks (and in a few cases, more folders of bookmarks).

Setting it up this way, I have a place for two kinds of links that I visit every day, in the "daily" and "blogs" folders; and the rest of the toolbar is just an attempt to categorize stuff that I know I will visit again.

You can drag and drop a link from the location bar right into any of these folders. You manage it all via the standard bookmarks "manage bookmarks".

Undertoad · 04-29-2002, 07:02 PM

I should add, I tried to set things up this way in IE once and it was a bad experience. IE alphabetized them and tried to open new IE windows for each one.

04-29-2002, 07:47 PM

You know what's important to me.

MaggieL · 04-29-2002, 07:53 PM

I've been using Netscape/Mozilla to maintain my links collection for about seven years now.One folder within the bookmarks is designated as the "personal toolbar folder" and is the one the browser displays.

I also use a tool called bk2site to publish the links. My bk2site can be seen at http://voicenet.com/~maggie/bk2site/index.html

MaggieL · 04-29-2002, 08:09 PM

Et voila...

Nic Name · 04-29-2002, 09:55 PM

Perth,

For me, a web-based solution is the only way to go. I move around from computer to computer at home, work and play. Browser-based favorites and hot links don't meet all my needs for link list maintenance and portability.

You only get what you pay for, one way or the other, even if you maintain and host your own web page. Unless you use a free weblog service like Blogger and Blogspot. But, as you say, that can be unwieldy and difficult to organize because link lists is not specifically what the service is designed for.

A value-added service at $49.95 per year, that provides a structure for adding your own links to those maintained by the "editor" is www.ceoexpress.com. This includes other features such as web-based email.

I know that a "fee for service" concept isn't the answer for everyone, but CEO Express is exactly what you are describing.

And you didn't specify FREE.

perth · 04-29-2002, 10:25 PM

nic,

i agree. right now i have a page saved locally to my computer here at work that categorizes my links into drop-down menus using some js and dhtml. problem is, it takes upwards of 20 seconds to load. (mostly because of the js). im planning on putting it on some free webspace i have with my isp when its done, but i just dont like how long it takes to load.

my problem, i guess, is finding the right format for storing my links. ideally, i would like to make it db driven with asp. but my isp doesnt support asp and im too cheap to pay for one that does.

i could do a yahoo-like thing where i click into diff categories, but i think that sort of defeats the purpose of what im trying to do. i want to write as few pages as possible and be able to display as many links as possible. a list format on one page is right out.

~james

MaggieL · 04-29-2002, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nic Name

For me, a web-based solution is the only way to go. I move around from computer to computer at home, work and play. Browser-based favorites and hot links don't meet all my needs for link list maintenance and portability.

That's exacty why I copy my bookmarks page to my website flat in addition to having the bk2site version up there. It's always available.

juju · 05-01-2002, 01:40 PM

I used to collect bookmarks, too. See here for an example from a few years ago.

Noawadays, though, I store all URL's in my head. The more obscure ones I can find again with google within 10 seconds, and all the major ones I just type into the address bar myself.

That Guy · 05-04-2002, 11:13 AM

I currently use Opera ("The Fastest Browser on Earth!"), and I'm extremely happy with the bookmark manager here. You can also import/export bookmarks from/to other browsers (ie import all the old IE) which makes it that much easier.
Sad thing is that it automatically alphabetizes them, therefore The Cellar is down there towards the bottom (just below The Bottom in fact). Unless Aaron Aardvark buys it from Tony sometime soon, it will stay there (at least until I edit the name of the bookmark with a _).

MaggieL · 05-04-2002, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by blowmeetheclown
I currently use Opera ("The Fastest Browser on Earth!"),

If you think Opera is the fastest browser on Earth, you've never used Dillo.
http://dillo.cipsga.org.br/

Quote:

..and I'm extremely happy with the bookmark manager here. You can also import/export bookmarks from/to other browsers (ie import all the old IE) which makes it that much easier. Sad thing is that it automatically alphabetizes them...

"Sad" is a good word for that. You do pay a price for a lightweight browser, and functionality is part of that price.

Here's a look at some Mozilla bookmark management stuff...

Undertoad · 05-04-2002, 12:46 PM

A browser trying to help you by alphabetizing your bookmarks is like a car trying to help you by switching the gas pedal and brake pedal.

That Guy · 05-04-2002, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MaggieL

"Sad" is a good word for that. You do pay a price for a lightweight browser, and functionality is part of that price.

Here's a look at some Mozilla bookmark management stuff...

A little tounge-in-cheek goes a long way around here

If the firewall at work wasn't in place, I'd upload a few captures to show how wonderful this thing really is. How 'bout I mail 'em to ya, Tony?
And the pedals of my car are already alpha-ordered. Luckily I don't drive a standard at the moment.

MaggieL · 05-04-2002, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by blowmeetheclown

And the pedals of my car are already alpha-ordered. Luckily I don't drive a standard at the moment.

And it's a good thing Opera isn't "helping" your shift lever:

PRND21 => DNPR12 :-)

My daughter (19, away at college) loves Opera because she was raised on Netscape, hates IE, but NS V6 treated her badly. She'll prolly get onto Mozilla when V1 comes out, though.

04-29-2002, 06:07 PM	#1
perth Strong Silent Type Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 1,949	maintaining link collections... so im addicted to collecting links (the 'link of the day' thread in this forum brought me to the cellar in the first place). the trouble is, its increasingly difficult to categorize and maintain these links. at first i just used ie's favorites, and then built a small webpage with js nested drop-downs to organize. well, this has gotten unwieldy as well. i know im not the only one who has more saved links than i could possibly need, so i thought i would ask, how does everyone else manage their links? ~james

04-29-2002, 07:53 PM	#5
MaggieL in the Hour of Scampering Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Jeffersonville PA (15 mi NW of Philadelphia) Posts: 4,060	I've been using Netscape/Mozilla to maintain my links collection for about seven years now.One folder within the bookmarks is designated as the "personal toolbar folder" and is the one the browser displays. I also use a tool called bk2site to publish the links. My bk2site can be seen at http://voicenet.com/~maggie/bk2site/index.html __________________ "Neither can his Mind be thought to be in Tune,whose words do jarre; nor his reason In frame, whose sentence is preposterous..."

04-29-2002, 08:09 PM	#6
MaggieL in the Hour of Scampering Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Jeffersonville PA (15 mi NW of Philadelphia) Posts: 4,060	Et voila... __________________ "Neither can his Mind be thought to be in Tune,whose words do jarre; nor his reason In frame, whose sentence is preposterous..." Last edited by MaggieL; 07-11-2006 at 05:00 PM.

04-29-2002, 09:55 PM	#7
Nic Name retired Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,930	CEO Express Perth, For me, a web-based solution is the only way to go. I move around from computer to computer at home, work and play. Browser-based favorites and hot links don't meet all my needs for link list maintenance and portability. You only get what you pay for, one way or the other, even if you maintain and host your own web page. Unless you use a free weblog service like Blogger and Blogspot. But, as you say, that can be unwieldy and difficult to organize because link lists is not specifically what the service is designed for. A value-added service at $49.95 per year, that provides a structure for adding your own links to those maintained by the "editor" is www.ceoexpress.com. This includes other features such as web-based email. I know that a "fee for service" concept isn't the answer for everyone, but CEO Express is exactly what you are describing. And you didn't specify FREE.

05-04-2002, 11:13 AM	#11
That Guy He who reads, sometimes writes. Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: at the keyboard Posts: 791	I currently use Opera ("The Fastest Browser on Earth!"), and I'm extremely happy with the bookmark manager here. You can also import/export bookmarks from/to other browsers (ie import all the old IE) which makes it that much easier. Sad thing is that it automatically alphabetizes them, therefore The Cellar is down there towards the bottom (just below The Bottom in fact). Unless Aaron Aardvark buys it from Tony sometime soon, it will stay there (at least until I edit the name of the bookmark with a _). Last edited by That Guy; 05-04-2002 at 11:21 AM.

04-29-2002, 06:57 PM	#2
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Mozilla's personal toolbar allows you use folders of bookmarks pretty well. The personal toolbar is the thing in that shot that goes "Cellar Daily Blogs Weekly..." The Cellar is a direct link to here, and of course everyone should have that first on their toolbar. From there, you see folders, and in those folders are bookmarks (and in a few cases, more folders of bookmarks). Setting it up this way, I have a place for two kinds of links that I visit every day, in the "daily" and "blogs" folders; and the rest of the toolbar is just an attempt to categorize stuff that I know I will visit again. You can drag and drop a link from the location bar right into any of these folders. You manage it all via the standard bookmarks "manage bookmarks".

04-29-2002, 07:02 PM	#3
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	I should add, I tried to set things up this way in IE once and it was a bad experience. IE alphabetized them and tried to open new IE windows for each one.

04-29-2002, 07:47 PM	#4
dave Guest Posts: n/a	You know what's important to me.

04-29-2002, 10:25 PM	#8
perth Strong Silent Type Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 1,949	nic, i agree. right now i have a page saved locally to my computer here at work that categorizes my links into drop-down menus using some js and dhtml. problem is, it takes upwards of 20 seconds to load. (mostly because of the js). im planning on putting it on some free webspace i have with my isp when its done, but i just dont like how long it takes to load. my problem, i guess, is finding the right format for storing my links. ideally, i would like to make it db driven with asp. but my isp doesnt support asp and im too cheap to pay for one that does. i could do a yahoo-like thing where i click into diff categories, but i think that sort of defeats the purpose of what im trying to do. i want to write as few pages as possible and be able to display as many links as possible. a list format on one page is right out. ~james

05-01-2002, 01:40 PM	#10
juju no one of consequence Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,839	I used to collect bookmarks, too. See here for an example from a few years ago. Noawadays, though, I store all URL's in my head. The more obscure ones I can find again with google within 10 seconds, and all the major ones I just type into the address bar myself.

05-04-2002, 12:46 PM	#13
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	A browser trying to help you by alphabetizing your bookmarks is like a car trying to help you by switching the gas pedal and brake pedal.

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