Condiments

xoxoxoBruce · 09-08-2010, 01:50 PM

Revealing the secret history of our condiments.

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Condiment: from L. condimentum “spice, seasoning, sauce,” from condire “to preserve, pickle, season” (variant of condere “to put away, store”). As its etymology suggests, a condiment must have a shelf life — which, until recently, means it was vinegar-, salt-, or sugar-based. Also, it must be at least slightly more complicated, and moister, than a seasoning.

However, though preserved, pickles aren’t condiments: pickled beets can be lovely with falafel, but they’re still a vegetable. As for the “usage” folks, who define anything added to prepared food as a condiment, they’re quite mad: even if you dip fish sticks into it, hollandaise is a sauce, not a condiment.

TheMercenary · 09-09-2010, 07:33 AM

Guess that settles the question over relish on hot dogs. Not a condiment. Or is it a mix?

richlevy · 09-11-2010, 07:13 PM

Ok, this is weird. For the past week I have been meaning to put up a 'what is your favorite condiment' thread. For various reasons, I never got around to it. BTW, I intended to stretch condiment to include any free food item given with a meal, such as sauces, crackers, etc.

For the record, my favorites, in no particular order are:

Arby's Horsey Sauce

McDonald's Hot Picante Sauce - Not authentic, but I loooove this stuff on breakfast sandwiches.

In 'N Out Burger chiles - When I visited them in Vegas for the first time, they had these little clear packets with two small peppers in them. Genius

Taco Bell Fiery Sauce

McDonald's Honey Mustard - Also a breakfast favorite

Gulden's Spicy Brown Mustard - Available from numerous fast food places.

Heinz Ketchup - Available from numerous fast food places.

Cloud · 09-11-2010, 07:53 PM

ugh. I used to call my ex "condiment man" because he'd douse EVERYTHING in ketchup.

is mayonnaise a condiment? or a sauce?

Clodfobble · 09-11-2010, 09:42 PM

Brianna's Zesty French dressing. I put this stuff on everything, it is beyond fantastic.

zippyt · 09-11-2010, 09:46 PM

soy sauce rucks !!

Undertoad · 09-12-2010, 06:30 AM

Chipotle mayo is coming on strong.

wolf · 09-12-2010, 11:14 AM

Ketchup.

Plain.

Simple.

Technically a vegetable.

And I put it on hot dogs.

Because I can't stand mustard. I eat Philly Pretzels dry.

Cloud · 09-12-2010, 11:24 AM

yay! for ketchup on hot dogs! yum.

wolf · 09-12-2010, 12:56 PM

Dirty Harry says no.

zippyt · 09-12-2010, 01:07 PM

Lennys Pepper relish is Soo Good on black eyed Peas , in Soups and Killer on Drunk mid nite Special Ramen noodles !!!!

http://www.lennys.com/section.cfm?se...nu&page=relish

And Yeah You Cheese steak heads They Make a Decent Cheese Steak , Never asked if they had any Wizz Though .

xoxoxoBruce · 09-12-2010, 03:36 PM

Don't, the wizz the steak joints put on chesse-steaks, tastes like my wizz.

Sundae · 09-12-2010, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by richlevy

For the record, my favorites, in no particular order are:

McDonald's Hot Picante Sauce - Not authentic, but I loooove this stuff on breakfast sandwiches.
McDonald's Honey Mustard - Also a breakfast favorite

We're being gypped.
All you get here is ketchup, mustard, sweet & sour and BBQ.

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Heinz Ketchup - Available from numerous fast food places.

Although admittedly the ketchup in McD's is Heinz.

richlevy · 09-12-2010, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Sundae Girl

We're being gypped.
All you get here is ketchup, mustard, sweet & sour and BBQ.

Although admittedly the ketchup in McD's is Heinz.

That reminds me. I wanted to ask how popular Heinz Malt Vinegar is over in the UK versus local brands. I enjoy it on fries, but when I shopped in some nicer stores, I noticed other brands.

So, how do the Yanks stack up in the Olde English foods department?

Sundae · 09-12-2010, 04:23 PM

I've never even seen Heinz Malt Vinegar.
Our staple is Sarsons.

Am logging off now, but will return with detailed condiment discussions tomorrow

09-09-2010, 07:33 AM	#2
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Guess that settles the question over relish on hot dogs. Not a condiment. Or is it a mix? __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

09-11-2010, 07:13 PM	#3
richlevy King Of Wishful Thinking Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Philadelphia Suburbs Posts: 6,669	Ok, this is weird. For the past week I have been meaning to put up a 'what is your favorite condiment' thread. For various reasons, I never got around to it. BTW, I intended to stretch condiment to include any free food item given with a meal, such as sauces, crackers, etc. For the record, my favorites, in no particular order are: Arby's Horsey Sauce McDonald's Hot Picante Sauce - Not authentic, but I loooove this stuff on breakfast sandwiches. In 'N Out Burger chiles - When I visited them in Vegas for the first time, they had these little clear packets with two small peppers in them. Genius Taco Bell Fiery Sauce McDonald's Honey Mustard - Also a breakfast favorite Gulden's Spicy Brown Mustard - Available from numerous fast food places. Heinz Ketchup - Available from numerous fast food places. __________________ Exercise your rights and remember your obligations - VOTE! I have always believed that hope is that stubborn thing inside us that insists, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that something better awaits us so long as we have the courage to keep reaching, to keep working, to keep fighting. -- Barack Hussein Obama

09-11-2010, 07:53 PM	#4
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	ugh. I used to call my ex "condiment man" because he'd douse EVERYTHING in ketchup. is mayonnaise a condiment? or a sauce? __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

09-11-2010, 09:42 PM	#5
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	Brianna's Zesty French dressing. I put this stuff on everything, it is beyond fantastic. __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

09-11-2010, 09:46 PM	#6
zippyt LONG LIVE KING ZIPPY! per Feetz Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 7,661	soy sauce rucks !! __________________ "Success is getting what you want. Happiness is wanting what you get. " Brother Dave Gardner

09-12-2010, 06:30 AM	#7
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Chipotle mayo is coming on strong.

09-12-2010, 11:14 AM	#8
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Ketchup. Plain. Simple. Technically a vegetable. And I put it on hot dogs. Because I can't stand mustard. I eat Philly Pretzels dry. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

09-12-2010, 11:24 AM	#9
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	yay! for ketchup on hot dogs! yum. __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

09-12-2010, 12:56 PM	#10
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Dirty Harry says no. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

09-12-2010, 01:07 PM	#11
zippyt LONG LIVE KING ZIPPY! per Feetz Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 7,661	Lennys Pepper relish is Soo Good on black eyed Peas , in Soups and Killer on Drunk mid nite Special Ramen noodles !!!! http://www.lennys.com/section.cfm?se...nu&page=relish And Yeah You Cheese steak heads They Make a Decent Cheese Steak , Never asked if they had any Wizz Though . __________________ "Success is getting what you want. Happiness is wanting what you get. " Brother Dave Gardner

09-12-2010, 03:36 PM	#12
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Don't, the wizz the steak joints put on chesse-steaks, tastes like my wizz. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

09-12-2010, 04:23 PM	#15
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	I've never even seen Heinz Malt Vinegar. Our staple is Sarsons. Am logging off now, but will return with detailed condiment discussions tomorrow

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