windows problem

Cam · 01-14-2003, 10:17 PM

I have been having a hell of a time with my computer since I got back to school. I can't seem to get my computer to receive any data off of the campus network using Windows. I've spent half my time since I've been home trying to figure this out but nothing seems to be working. According to the network connections under the control panel my network connection is up and running. I would assume something is wrong with my network card but when I'm using Linux on the same machine I can access the network just fine.

I finally discovered an error message today when I tried to repair the connection, I got an error message that said their was a problem flushing the ARP cache. If anyone has any ideas that would be great.
I don't know what other information I can provide, my network card is an Intel proset 10/100. I also was connecting to the internet using a dialup connection when I was home but I deleted that connection after I started having problems.

perth · 01-15-2003, 09:36 AM

take a look at this. which version of windows are you using? exact error message?

~james

Cam · 01-15-2003, 11:44 AM

I'm running Windows XP home with service pack 1 installed. THe exact error message regarding the arp cache was . The following steps of the repair operation failed: Flushing the ARP cache.

I think I may have figured it out, hopefully. I had bought a new sound card so I could play music with Linux and I just popped it out and now my connection is working. It doesn't exactly make any sense to me but hopefully it was the problem.

perth · 01-15-2003, 11:53 AM

hunh. what sound card was it?

~james

Cam · 01-15-2003, 11:57 AM

It was a soundblaster 16pci card. Doesn't make a lot of sense. Windows never registered any hardware conflicts when I was having problems.

tw · 01-15-2003, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cam
It was a soundblaster 16pci card. Doesn't make a lot of sense. Windows never registered any hardware conflicts when I was having problems.

How do you know windows detected no hardware conflicts - details of why you know?

Cam · 01-15-2003, 02:28 PM

Okay so the sound card wasn't the problem anyways, I got back from class this afternoon and guess what my connection was doing exactly the same thing as before. So I guess I'll get to work using perths information. Hopefully I can solve it soon.

tw the only reason I assumed there was no hardware conflict, is becuase windows never said anything, and using device manager when looking at the details of the sound card no hardware conflict were present.

perth · 01-15-2003, 04:05 PM

cam, for what its worth, the things i read at the ms support page indicated that the issue wasnt so much due to the nic, but more due to something wonky in the os. i would probably start by disabling startup items, uninstall/reinstall tcp/ip, stuff like that. i would also try reinstalling the nic driver, just to be safe. post whatever you find that fixes it.

~james

Cam · 01-15-2003, 04:44 PM

I've tried to do a little bit of that, so far with no luck, the fact that it worked when I took the sound card out makes this even stranger becuase that's all I did. The only good thing about this is that it's giving me motivation to get my sound card working through Linux.

Cam · 01-16-2003, 01:20 AM

So after about a week of trying to figure sound out on Linux I have sound. And after another couple hours of messing with it I can play mp3s. Damn I'm feeling good now. Now I just need to get my printer working and figure out how to burn cds and I'll be able to use Linux almost exclusivly.

juju · 01-16-2003, 01:31 AM

What distro are you running?

I do know that in order to burn cd's with an IDE CD Burner, your kernel has to be compiled with SCSI emulation support, and not IDE CD-ROM support. That seems to be the only magic key, other than learning how to use mkisofs and cdrecord.

Cam · 01-16-2003, 01:40 AM

I'm running Redhat 8.0. I really havn't even looked anything about burning up so I'm starting from scratch this weekend.

Are there any good filesharing programs for Linux. I've looked a bit but if anyone has any suggestions they would be welcome. I'm also looking for a good ripper/encoder.

A few more months and I'll be completly rid of the beast of redmond.(at least at home)

01-16-2003, 08:41 AM

It's funny, because after getting a Mac with Mac OS X, all the reasons to use Linux (except the "I'm too cheap to buy shit") are gone.

Really, you owe it to yourself to go play with one at an Apple store. Pick the brain of one of the employees on whatever you want. See the light.

juju · 01-16-2003, 12:21 PM

When I rip cds, I use the script 'abcde', and I have it configured to use lame and cdparanoia.

If you use lame, remember that in addition to changing the bitrate, you also choose a 'quality value', from 1-10, which tells lame what algorithms to use when trying to approximate human hearing. Some are more effective than others, but the better they are, the slower they tend to be. The default is 5, but I use 2.

For filesharing on Linux, I use gtk-gnutella. But WinMX and Kazaa-Lite for Windows seem to be a bit more effective when looking for reasonably obscure titles.

Cam · 01-16-2003, 10:34 PM

Back to my Windows problem. I seems to have solved part of the network issue I was having before. I uninstalled all my protocols but TCIP and the connection seems to be working whenever I start my computer. Now I'm having the same problem after my computer has been on for a while. I cannot give any times because it only appears to stop working when I'm not using the computer. This also seems to be happening when I'm using Linux too.

I'm wondering if maybe this is a physical network card problem which could have occurred during the drive to and from home. We'll see what happens, hopefully I can find someone with a spare network card laying around.

01-14-2003, 10:17 PM	#1
Cam dripping with ignorance Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Grand Forks ND Posts: 642	windows problem I have been having a hell of a time with my computer since I got back to school. I can't seem to get my computer to receive any data off of the campus network using Windows. I've spent half my time since I've been home trying to figure this out but nothing seems to be working. According to the network connections under the control panel my network connection is up and running. I would assume something is wrong with my network card but when I'm using Linux on the same machine I can access the network just fine. I finally discovered an error message today when I tried to repair the connection, I got an error message that said their was a problem flushing the ARP cache. If anyone has any ideas that would be great. I don't know what other information I can provide, my network card is an Intel proset 10/100. I also was connecting to the internet using a dialup connection when I was home but I deleted that connection after I started having problems. __________________ After the seventh beer I generally try and stay away from the keyboard, I apologize for what happens when I fail.

01-15-2003, 11:44 AM	#3
Cam dripping with ignorance Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Grand Forks ND Posts: 642	I'm running Windows XP home with service pack 1 installed. THe exact error message regarding the arp cache was . The following steps of the repair operation failed: Flushing the ARP cache. I think I may have figured it out, hopefully. I had bought a new sound card so I could play music with Linux and I just popped it out and now my connection is working. It doesn't exactly make any sense to me but hopefully it was the problem. __________________ After the seventh beer I generally try and stay away from the keyboard, I apologize for what happens when I fail. Last edited by Cam; 01-15-2003 at 11:49 AM.

01-15-2003, 11:57 AM	#5
Cam dripping with ignorance Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Grand Forks ND Posts: 642	It was a soundblaster 16pci card. Doesn't make a lot of sense. Windows never registered any hardware conflicts when I was having problems. __________________ After the seventh beer I generally try and stay away from the keyboard, I apologize for what happens when I fail.

01-15-2003, 02:28 PM	#7
Cam dripping with ignorance Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Grand Forks ND Posts: 642	Okay so the sound card wasn't the problem anyways, I got back from class this afternoon and guess what my connection was doing exactly the same thing as before. So I guess I'll get to work using perths information. Hopefully I can solve it soon. tw the only reason I assumed there was no hardware conflict, is becuase windows never said anything, and using device manager when looking at the details of the sound card no hardware conflict were present. __________________ After the seventh beer I generally try and stay away from the keyboard, I apologize for what happens when I fail.

01-15-2003, 04:44 PM	#9
Cam dripping with ignorance Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Grand Forks ND Posts: 642	I've tried to do a little bit of that, so far with no luck, the fact that it worked when I took the sound card out makes this even stranger becuase that's all I did. The only good thing about this is that it's giving me motivation to get my sound card working through Linux. __________________ After the seventh beer I generally try and stay away from the keyboard, I apologize for what happens when I fail.

01-15-2003, 09:36 AM	#2
perth Strong Silent Type Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 1,949	take a look at this. which version of windows are you using? exact error message? ~james

01-15-2003, 11:53 AM	#4
perth Strong Silent Type Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 1,949	hunh. what sound card was it? ~james

01-15-2003, 04:05 PM	#8
perth Strong Silent Type Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 1,949	cam, for what its worth, the things i read at the ms support page indicated that the issue wasnt so much due to the nic, but more due to something wonky in the os. i would probably start by disabling startup items, uninstall/reinstall tcp/ip, stuff like that. i would also try reinstalling the nic driver, just to be safe. post whatever you find that fixes it. ~james

01-16-2003, 01:20 AM	#10
Cam dripping with ignorance Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Grand Forks ND Posts: 642	So after about a week of trying to figure sound out on Linux I have sound. And after another couple hours of messing with it I can play mp3s. Damn I'm feeling good now. Now I just need to get my printer working and figure out how to burn cds and I'll be able to use Linux almost exclusivly. __________________ After the seventh beer I generally try and stay away from the keyboard, I apologize for what happens when I fail.

01-16-2003, 01:31 AM	#11
juju no one of consequence Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,839	What distro are you running? I do know that in order to burn cd's with an IDE CD Burner, your kernel has to be compiled with SCSI emulation support, and not IDE CD-ROM support. That seems to be the only magic key, other than learning how to use mkisofs and cdrecord.

01-16-2003, 01:40 AM	#12
Cam dripping with ignorance Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Grand Forks ND Posts: 642	I'm running Redhat 8.0. I really havn't even looked anything about burning up so I'm starting from scratch this weekend. Are there any good filesharing programs for Linux. I've looked a bit but if anyone has any suggestions they would be welcome. I'm also looking for a good ripper/encoder. A few more months and I'll be completly rid of the beast of redmond.(at least at home) __________________ After the seventh beer I generally try and stay away from the keyboard, I apologize for what happens when I fail.

01-16-2003, 08:41 AM	#13
dave Guest Posts: n/a	It's funny, because after getting a Mac with Mac OS X, all the reasons to use Linux (except the "I'm too cheap to buy shit") are gone. Really, you owe it to yourself to go play with one at an Apple store. Pick the brain of one of the employees on whatever you want. See the light.

01-16-2003, 12:21 PM	#14
juju no one of consequence Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,839	When I rip cds, I use the script 'abcde', and I have it configured to use lame and cdparanoia. If you use lame, remember that in addition to changing the bitrate, you also choose a 'quality value', from 1-10, which tells lame what algorithms to use when trying to approximate human hearing. Some are more effective than others, but the better they are, the slower they tend to be. The default is 5, but I use 2. For filesharing on Linux, I use gtk-gnutella. But WinMX and Kazaa-Lite for Windows seem to be a bit more effective when looking for reasonably obscure titles.

01-16-2003, 10:34 PM	#15
Cam dripping with ignorance Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Grand Forks ND Posts: 642	Back to my Windows problem. I seems to have solved part of the network issue I was having before. I uninstalled all my protocols but TCIP and the connection seems to be working whenever I start my computer. Now I'm having the same problem after my computer has been on for a while. I cannot give any times because it only appears to stop working when I'm not using the computer. This also seems to be happening when I'm using Linux too. I'm wondering if maybe this is a physical network card problem which could have occurred during the drive to and from home. We'll see what happens, hopefully I can find someone with a spare network card laying around. __________________ After the seventh beer I generally try and stay away from the keyboard, I apologize for what happens when I fail.

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