Ethics

limey · 03-03-2014, 10:24 AM

I read the following on another forum:
" ... that the use of the term “ethical” carries a heavy weight of implications, and is more accurately describing a political point of view, particularly in the US."
Is that really the case, my Merkin friends? And if so, which "political" point of view is referred to here?
I know what the writer had in mind from the context, but wonder if that's really so for the majority of youse.

Sent by thought transference

footfootfoot · 03-03-2014, 10:58 AM

sounds like BS to me. Ethical sems to be more legally oriented and moral seems to be more religiously oriented.

Clodfobble · 03-03-2014, 11:26 AM

Yeah, what foot said.

Griff · 03-03-2014, 04:21 PM

A lot of people on the fringes lay claim to "ethical" viewpoints in politics... I guess I always saw ethics as a subset of philosophy often claimed but rarely seen in law or politics.

xoxoxoBruce · 03-03-2014, 04:23 PM

Ethical and Political are unfortunately diametrically opposed here now. Anyone I hear using them in conjunction is automatically placed in the lying bastard file, until proven innocent.

Griff · 03-03-2014, 04:25 PM

I usually want to work them over with this.

xoxoxoBruce · 03-03-2014, 04:27 PM

True, but groan.

tw · 03-03-2014, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by limey

I know what the writer had in mind from the context, but wonder if that's really so for the majority of youse.

Ethics or ethical is only an emotion IF you do not first define the principles upon what it is based. For example, Nazis defined ethids in terms of the superior race. Spinning the advancement of Germans into Germans are the masters of and responsible for leading the world. Their actions were ethical based upon the principles that defined their lives and justified their existance.

What are you principles? For example, what is the purpose of life in general; and your's in particular? If you cannot answer that, then you really do not know what is ethical.

In a parallel example, Descarte justified the existance of the world starting with a basic supposition. "I think, therefore I am." From this, he built a large and complex philosphy.

Socrates did something similar by asking damning questions; by exposing contradictions. In every case, these are great philosophers because they demanded underlying reasons for every conclusion. If asking what is ethical, then first define the underlying principles and reasons why that define your conclusion; to say what is ethical.

Happy Monkey · 08-16-2015, 01:40 PM

Ethical Fourier Transform

xoxoxoBruce · 08-16-2015, 09:00 PM

It's true, I didn't pay a lot of attention to the big explosion in China, but if it had been in the US, I'd have gone online immediately for details.

it · 08-19-2015, 07:36 AM

...Yes.

Ofcourse. Your views on ethics and your views on politics are both going to be extensions of your values. There is actually good research into moral psychology in this regard:

03-03-2014, 10:24 AM	#1
limey Encroaching on your decrees Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: An island within the south-west coast of Scotland Posts: 7,016	Ethics I read the following on another forum: " ... that the use of the term “ethical” carries a heavy weight of implications, and is more accurately describing a political point of view, particularly in the US." Is that really the case, my Merkin friends? And if so, which "political" point of view is referred to here? I know what the writer had in mind from the context, but wonder if that's really so for the majority of youse. Sent by thought transference __________________ Living it up on the edge ... of civilisation, within the southwest coast of

03-03-2014, 10:58 AM	#2
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	sounds like BS to me. Ethical sems to be more legally oriented and moral seems to be more religiously oriented. __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

03-03-2014, 11:26 AM	#3
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	Yeah, what foot said. __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

03-03-2014, 04:21 PM	#4
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	A lot of people on the fringes lay claim to "ethical" viewpoints in politics... I guess I always saw ethics as a subset of philosophy often claimed but rarely seen in law or politics. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

03-03-2014, 04:23 PM	#5
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Ethical and Political are unfortunately diametrically opposed here now. Anyone I hear using them in conjunction is automatically placed in the lying bastard file, until proven innocent. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

03-03-2014, 04:25 PM	#6
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	I usually want to work them over with this. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

03-03-2014, 04:27 PM	#7
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	True, but groan. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

08-16-2015, 01:40 PM	#9
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	Ethical Fourier Transform __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

08-16-2015, 09:00 PM	#10
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	It's true, I didn't pay a lot of attention to the big explosion in China, but if it had been in the US, I'd have gone online immediately for details. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

08-19-2015, 07:36 AM	#11
it Banned Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 772	...Yes. Ofcourse. Your views on ethics and your views on politics are both going to be extensions of your values. There is actually good research into moral psychology in this regard:

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